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PbodyPhoto Jan 1, 2013 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 19956439)
Flying AA discount economy and accruing to AA with no status you will earn 1 RDM (redeemable miles) per mile flown

Flying AA discount economy and accruing to QF with gold status you will earn 0.875 QFF points per mile flown (discount economy on AA earns 0.5 points per mile, and your Gold status gives you a 75% bonus on that – 0.5*1.75 = 0.875)

.....

Your QF Gold status will give you AAdmiral’s Club access, even when flying domestic US – something which AAdvantage status doesn’t give. I don't think you need to be accruing to QF in order to use your QF status to get into the lounge, but I'm not certain on this point.

Thanks! With QF Gold I have a minimum points earn of 500 on AA flights which is nice for short haul. For example my recent BOS-JFK which should earn less than 150 points got me 500.

As for AC access with QF status but an AA number in the booking; I understand it is possible.

wandering_fred Jan 1, 2013 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto (Post 19956628)
As for AC access with QF status but an AA number in the booking; I understand it is possible.

If nothing else show the card at the door.

Unless you can justify QF Plat, credit to AA.

But I'm biased @ 98% AA LTG.

Fred

Dave Noble Jan 2, 2013 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto (Post 19956628)
Thanks! With QF Gold I have a minimum points earn of 500 on AA flights which is nice for short haul. For example my recent BOS-JFK which should earn less than 150 points got me 500.

As for AC access with QF status but an AA number in the booking; I understand it is possible.

To get access to the lounge, just show the QF card ; does not have to be in the booking

If you are going to be doing enough travel to get 10k points in 3 months, then I would also agree that doing the Platinum Challenge will be good. Once platinum , BOS-JFK would earn you a min of 1000 credited to AA vs 500 to QF

koffe Jan 2, 2013 1:19 pm

I'm relocating to Singapore and am already *A (SK EBG) and OW Sapphire (Airberlin Gold). Before I used to do mostly Scandinavia <> London, Scandinavia <> Singapore, London <> Singapore, but my travel patterns will now change: I will be based in Singapore and travel frequently to:

Sydney - 12 R/T year
London - 8 R/T year
Delhi - 6 R/T year
Various intra-Asian flights - Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Jakarta - let's say about 20 R/T year
SFO - 6 R/T year (either from SIN or LON)

FWIW I think this is a conservative estimate.

Unfortunately I will be flying mostly economy/premium economy.

Questions
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport?
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
Reply: >100k (economy/premium economy)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Reply: Economy, Premium Economy, occasionally Business (1/month)
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Work. No C or F
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: See above.
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it?
Reply: *A SK EBG, OW Sapphire Airberlin Topbonus
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Reply: Priority check-in, extra cabin baggage allowance, upgrades
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: SAS (!), Singapore Airlines (I have most experience with these...)

Based on my travel pattern, I am fairly confident I'll reach top tier in all alliances if I want to, but I am looking to see if I am missing something in terms of airlines who would frequently or easily allow me to upgrade with miles at gate, cash at gate or super-elite status.

Thanks in advance!

PbodyPhoto Jan 2, 2013 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 19960736)
To get access to the lounge, just show the QF card ; does not have to be in the booking

If you are going to be doing enough travel to get 10k points in 3 months, then I would also agree that doing the Platinum Challenge will be good. Once platinum , BOS-JFK would earn you a min of 1000 credited to AA vs 500 to QF

Thanks, how are 10k points earned/calculated? What cost would that be if milage running it?

pandaperth Jan 2, 2013 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto (Post 19961122)
Thanks, how are 10k points earned/calculated? What cost would that be if milage running it?

See the thread in the AA forum
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-platinum.html

flyingJAPman Jan 3, 2013 10:56 am

Here's my question list:


(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: NGO, MNL
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: < 25k , not that frequent flyer, but I have future plans of travelling domestic in Japan with JL if the prices are right
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure.Any OW Airline on Y Class. For my annual vacation in MNL, I am thinking whether I fly JL or CX.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Intra-Asia as of this time
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: JMB Base, PR Mabuhay Miles Base
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: Upgrades on travel, good award redemption rates, long miles expiration date
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: JL, CX

Santander Jan 3, 2013 3:47 pm

Hello OW forum. I'm a regular on the AC and Asia forums and I'm looking for a bit of help deciding on a OW FFP for the upcoming year and beyond.

(1) What is your home airport?
YYC and EWR
Moving to either ITH or RDU in August
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class?
75k in 2012, looking to do ~50-75k in 2013
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ?
Discount Y within North America, discount C international
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I can choose the airline when flying domestically to a reasonable extent but cannot fly. Current international travel is mainly for business within the US + YYC but also int'l flights for leisure.
(5) Which routes do you fly most often
SFO/LAX-NYC and YYC-US are my most frequent flights but my flying is truly a mixed bag.
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it?
AC Super Elite exp 2/2013, UA Silver exp 1/2013
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Intl upgrades, priority check-in/boarding, lounge access (already have Amex Plat for AC access), TPAC C award redemptions
(8) Preferred Airlines
OZ, NH, CX, but willing to chase cheap C fares on any carrier. Do not like flying on WS.
(9) Other
Easy requalification for flying international C

I have 2 months of *G left and although I'm considering doing a US challenge to quickly get *G before the end of February, I'm drawn by the often cheap C fares NYC-Europe on AY and YVR-Asia on JL. I used to be CX Gold but I feel that MPC is not at all suited to my current flying. One thing which is important for me is to get some kind of status as soon as possible for as little cost as possible. I know I can do an AA challenge and get 10k EQP for ~$1k before the end of January but I don't feel AA is particularly generous towards people who fly international premium classes although I like AAdvantage overall. BA and IB are all quite generous for Tier/Elite Points for flying C but I'm not sure how easy it would be to meet their own-metal requirements considering I don't fly BA or IB that much. RJ seems to be very easy to requalify, does anyone have experience with their FFP?

SeriouslyLost Jan 6, 2013 5:50 pm

Let me just check that my understanding is correct on this one, because I'm pretty sure people are going to tell me to switch to earn and burn points to/with AA rather than the current QF.

Questions
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)

Reply: STL, aka Stop laughing. :)

(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: Greater than 50k, although it bounces around a fair bit. This year was actually close to 100k, but that was unusual.

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Discount economy or economy if I can get the exact seat I want, otherwise PE or business. It's running about 8:1 at the moment.

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Work & pleasure. I can choose whichever airline I want, although it's tended to be OW simply because I joined that first...quite a while ago.

(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Transpacific. Usually US-NZ (& I don't care if it transits Oz or Fiji or wherever so long as it's <16 hours) 2-3 times a year, but regular US-China 2-3 and US-UK 1-2 times a year. Travel within the US 10-15 times a year for work tends to be on SW (occasional AA or Alaska) and almost always to one of the coasts simply because they happen to go where I need to and I like them.

(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: QF Gold. Also SW and NZ *A. AA AC membership just for reliable lounge access.

(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: In order, upgrades, lounge access, and check in.

(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: Absolute preferences, if I had to say, would be QF, NZ, and, within the US, SW. AA business class is ok, but Y is awful.

ernestnywang Jan 7, 2013 11:14 am


Originally Posted by SeriouslyLost (Post 19989910)
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: QF Gold. Also SW and NZ *A. AA AC membership just for reliable lounge access.

Why do you need AC membership if you have QF Gold. QF Gold will give you AC access even on domestic FLTs.

Mwenenzi Jan 7, 2013 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by Santander (Post 19969492)
Hello OW forum. I'm a regular on the AC and Asia forums and I'm looking for a bit of help deciding on a OW FFP for the upcoming year and beyond.
< snip>
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Intl upgrades, priority check-in/boarding, lounge access (already have Amex Plat for AC access), TPAC C award redemptions
< snip>

As a general rule upgrades are only available with your FFP airline miles on a flight marketed (your airline flight number) and operated by your airline. In general you cannot upgrade codeshares. Depending on the airline some low$ fares are not upgradeable. Is different for the AA/BA/IB arrangement. Have read where MPC Asiamiles can upgrade BA flights, but not 100% sure
Also worth looking as Alaska : a good ffp

Mwenenzi Jan 7, 2013 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by SeriouslyLost (Post 19989910)
Let me just check that my understanding is correct on this one, because I'm pretty sure people are going to tell me to switch to earn and burn points to/with AA rather than the current QF

Yes. Why would someone living in the USA credit to QF? One reason is QF gold give you club access, as post 236 above. But after QF gold credit to AA. The QF points needed for award/upgrades on QF flights are poor value compared to AA, especially if earning with discount economy or economy flights. What AA status would you get with AA with your current flying pattern?

Also look at Alaska: a good program

SeriouslyLost Jan 7, 2013 9:52 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 19994598)
Why do you need AC membership if you have QF Gold. QF Gold will give you AC access even on domestic FLTs.


Originally it was simply accidental they overlapped, but I've actually found that I get refused entry to places with one or the other and so I've just kept it in place ever since so I know I can get into the complete range I want. Besides, the AC membership is tax deductible for me so it takes care of the problem at no (effective) cost. :)

SeriouslyLost Jan 7, 2013 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 19995965)
Yes. Why would someone living in the USA credit to QF?

Historical, and it hadn't occurred to me to switch. :)



What AA status would you get with AA with your current flying pattern? Also looking at Alaska: a good program
I just looked at my numbers for 2012 and I would be PLT easily with AA. Dammit :rolleyes: :)

I now realize I should have switched the crediting back in 2011. Opps. Thanks for the comments & confirmation of what I'd (belatedly) realized, ppls - much appreciated. :D

Mwenenzi Jan 7, 2013 11:34 pm


Originally Posted by SeriouslyLost (Post 19999106)
I now realize I should have switched the crediting back in 2011. Opps. Thanks for the comments & confirmation of what I'd (belatedly) realized, ppls - much appreciated. :D

Glad we have helped. :)

Worth looking at the AA forum sticky to check if AA Plat challenge is of use to you.
AA program is by calender year but QF is 12 months from your joining date, so the overlap (if any) may be useful
Remember if you have no activity (earn-burn) in 18 months with QF your points go to zero. You need 4 QF flights to retain Gold or have silver (if downgraded)


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