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kellytoronto Dec 19, 2012 8:59 am

I have a Priority Pass which gets me access to lounges in most airports also, so that's not a necessary perk.

My primary reason for switching is I've grown tired of AC's mean old FAs in J class, and the crap around their FFP. What I want from benefit is the upgrades on purchased economy for the family vacations TATL, or ability to reasonably redeem for business class TATL.

The big hole in my plan, of course, is what to do with domestic longhaul (ie YYZ-YYC/YVR). Seems like AC remains my only option with J, though I'd fly WS if I could credit their points to OW.

My thought had been CX vs. BA, but seems like AA may be worth considering.

Gardyloo Dec 19, 2012 9:38 am


Originally Posted by kellytoronto (Post 19886223)
The big hole in my plan, of course, is what to do with domestic longhaul (ie YYZ-YYC/YVR). Seems like AC remains my only option with J, though I'd fly WS if I could credit their points to OW.

WS miles can be credited to an AA account; no redemptions yet but expected. Miles are not elite qualifying. https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...es/westjet.jsp

kellytoronto Dec 19, 2012 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 19886465)
WS miles can be credited to an AA account; no redemptions yet but expected. Miles are not elite qualifying. https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...es/westjet.jsp

If I could credit them yet to BA, it would be an easy decision. Still - it's only 1-2 flts per year.

wandering_fred Dec 19, 2012 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 19886115)
You need 50K elite qualifying points (EQP) for Platinum. In premium economy classes and above, AA allots 1.5 EQP per flown mile, so 33.3K flown miles will earn 50K EQP.

Apologies, I did mean to say 33.3K miles in Business (yielding 50K EQP)
AA's qualification year is fixed calendar. I believe BA/CX would have a "floating" year based on anniversary/qualifying. That might make a difference.


Fred

c2h Dec 20, 2012 9:58 pm

Is MH Enrich an option?
 
I'm based in MEX and KUL so I fly between the two regularly. I used to have Sapphire status with MX but since it went bankrupt on 2012 I switched to fly mainly *A and ST of which I have status.

Now that MH is joining OW in Feb should I maintain my Gold or is AA a better option?

wandering_fred Dec 21, 2012 4:48 am


Originally Posted by c2h (Post 19897547)
I'm based in MEX and KUL so I fly between the two regularly. I used to have Sapphire status with MX but since it went bankrupt on 2012 I switched to fly mainly *A and ST of which I have status.

Now that MH is joining OW in Feb should I maintain my Gold or is AA a better option?

I did take a quick look at the MH program through their website, and I DO NOT claim to be an expert. My conclusion was that I would re-read the details after they have officially joined and all of the cross crediting arrangements are known.

My guess from the look was that only MH flights were used to determine status. If true, not very useful.

Happy wandering

Fred

Ferluq Dec 21, 2012 8:27 am

Changing between programs (AA to LAN)?
 
Hi all,

Probably this question has been asked before, but I wanted to get your insight on this conundrum.

Currently I have Aadvantage gold status and residing in Ecuador. In the near future I will most probably be transfered to Lima, Perú. From there I will most travel (how frequently I don't know) between Perú and Ecuador, flying LAN, with the ocassional escapade to the US, in that case probably either flying AA or LAN.

Should I switch between programs or stick to AAdvantage?

My current thinking is that since I already have status with AA I should continue using it, since -at least- I'll get to use the business counters at the airports and get bonus mileage when flying LAN, plus the possibility of keep on profiting priority access and seating when flying American.

What's your take on this?

Thanks,
Fernando

iridge Dec 21, 2012 10:22 am


Originally Posted by Ferluq (Post 19899488)
Hi all,

Probably this question has been asked before, but I wanted to get your insight on this conundrum.

Currently I have Aadvantage gold status and residing in Ecuador. In the near future I will most probably be transfered to Lima, Perú. From there I will most travel (how frequently I don't know) between Perú and Ecuador, flying LAN, with the ocassional escapade to the US, in that case probably either flying AA or LAN.

Should I switch between programs or stick to AAdvantage?

My current thinking is that since I already have status with AA I should continue using it, since -at least- I'll get to use the business counters at the airports and get bonus mileage when flying LAN, plus the possibility of keep on profiting priority access and seating when flying American.

What's your take on this?

Thanks,
Fernando

Not too familiar with LANs program but another option to keep in min would be British Airways BAEC. If redeeming your miles are important to you, BA Avios are distance based and would require less points if you were to redeem
from Lima to Ecuador for instance.

Gardyloo Dec 21, 2012 10:47 am

I'm moving this thread to the sticky regarding Oneworld FFPs.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

serfty Dec 21, 2012 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 19898595)
..

My guess from the look was that only MH flights were used to determine status. If true, not very useful.
...

I would posit that that may change with entry into oneworld.

Aside from a few with minimum 'home airline' segment rules, there are no oneworld airline FF programs that prevent the attaining of Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald levels without being able to earn part of the qualifying status on oneworld parters.

BuildingMyBento Dec 29, 2012 8:01 pm

Compliments of the season, OW sticky,

I'm not sure whether or not I should start earning miles with a OW carrier, for the following reason:

Of all the airlines in this alliance, the only one that would prove useful to me is LA. I'd like to get to a few places in South America - Caracas, Merida (Venezuela), Iguazu, maybe Easter Island, maybe Stanley, Brasilia, and Puerto Montt- and it seems Lan flies to most of those. I currently have zero miles in the entire OW alliance; is it worth it to buy a LA explorer pass, and if so, what is the best itinerary? Or should I just start earning with one of the OW carriers, and get some open-jaw segments in the continent?

Thanks,
BmB

PbodyPhoto Jan 1, 2013 4:50 pm

QANTAS Gold FF moving to USA - Switch to AAdvantage?
 
I am a QANTAS Lifetime Gold FF currently based in SYD and will be moving to New York mid year until at least mid 2014. While my flying will slow down to one or two domestic trips per month and 2 or 3 international trips per year (Mostly all in Economy, discount economy at that!)

I currently have 110,000 QFF Points and am trying to work out if I should switch my mile earning to AA or keep my points going to QF. I will obviously use my QF card for lounge access and just switch the account number on the booking once in the lounge.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Gardyloo Jan 1, 2013 5:04 pm


Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto (Post 19955563)
I am a QANTAS Lifetime Gold FF currently based in SYD and will be moving to New York mid year until at least mid 2014. While my flying will slow down to one or two domestic trips per month and 2 or 3 international trips per year (Mostly all in Economy, discount economy at that!)

I currently have 110,000 QFF Points and am trying to work out if I should switch my mile earning to AA or keep my points going to QF. I will obviously use my QF card for lounge access and just switch the account number on the booking once in the lounge.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I'm going to move this to the existing sticky thread regarding choosing a Oneworld FFP.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

PbodyPhoto Jan 1, 2013 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 19955656)
I'm going to move this to the existing sticky thread regarding choosing a Oneworld FFP.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

Thanks,
It is less about choosing a program than choosing if I should credit AA flights to an AA or QF account. I am sure I will get a helpful answer here though.

pandaperth Jan 1, 2013 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by PbodyPhoto (Post 19956092)
Thanks,
It is less about choosing a program than choosing if I should credit AA flights to an AA or QF account. I am sure I will get a helpful answer here though.

Flying AA discount economy and accruing to AA with no status you will earn 1 RDM (redeemable miles) per mile flown

Flying AA discount economy and accruing to QF with gold status you will earn 0.875 QFF points per mile flown (discount economy on AA earns 0.5 points per mile, and your Gold status gives you a 75% bonus on that – 0.5*1.75 = 0.875)

AA is recognised as having a better earn/burn ratio than QF (though there are circumstances where QF is better – for example short haul flights in the US for only 8K points)

So accruing to AA will give you a slightly better earn rate, which combined with AA’s better burn rate means you’ll be better off accruing to AA

You should consider doing the AA Challenge to get yourself AA Platinum status – then you’ll get 100% bonus RDM, making AA even better for you

Your QF Gold status will give you AAdmiral’s Club access, even when flying domestic US – something which AAdvantage status doesn’t give. I don't think you need to be accruing to QF in order to use your QF status to get into the lounge, but I'm not certain on this point.


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