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boardingfool Jan 12, 2013 6:03 pm

Considering other OneWorld Mileage program?
 
hi all,

I've been CX member for 2 years and collected around 500k miles along with Diamond status. I am HK based and likely will continue to be.

I am considering continuing to flying with CX but instead crediting miles to either JAL, Qantas, AA, or BA. Does anyone else have a view on this?

Considering all sorts of things: mileage value, ease of flights, discounting miles, etc.

Thanks

number_6 Jan 12, 2013 6:15 pm

Analyze the earn/burn rates for the routes/classes you fly to earn and what you want to redeem. Cost and availabiility are dramatically different between FF programs and the latter might be the most important consideration. Diamond used to be worth its weight in gold :) with many informal benefits not stated in the plan. Has this stopped being the case? When I checked years ago the BA/QF/LA/AA equiv. status was significantly less valuable than Diamond because of this, but of course only applies on CX. AA has seductive earn/burn rate, but you have to wonder about the future of AA, with "merger" with USAir quite likely which could severely devalue Aadvantage.

cxfan1960 Jan 12, 2013 7:40 pm

This is a general OW topic. I am moving it over to the OW forum.

cxfan1960
CX Mod

Mwenenzi Jan 12, 2013 8:42 pm

Look here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...help-here.html

Guy Betsy Jan 12, 2013 9:47 pm


Originally Posted by boardingfool (Post 20034623)
hi all,

I've been CX member for 2 years and collected around 500k miles along with Diamond status. I am HK based and likely will continue to be.

I am considering continuing to flying with CX but instead crediting miles to either JAL, Qantas, AA, or BA. Does anyone else have a view on this?

Considering all sorts of things: mileage value, ease of flights, discounting miles, etc.

Thanks

If your travel is mainly on CX economy class, and the guaranteed seat confirmation means something to you then stay with MPC.

However, if your travel is mainly in Business or First Class on various airlines, then I'd recommend you join AA.

One of the main disadvantages of the MPC programme is the lack of bonus miles for elite members. AAdvantage Elite members earn 25% , & 100% bonus as Gold (OWRuby), Platinum & Exec Platinum (OW Sapphire & Emerald) on most qualifying Oneworld partner flights.

AAdvantage also has lower award requirements. A round trip F between Asia and North America is just 135K and around $50 tax with no fuel surcharge. But having said that, no wait listing or upgrading on CX flights using miles is possible. AAdvantage miles also do not expire as long as you have activity very 18 months.

You do need however 4 flights on AA per year to retain status. Further information can be had over at the AA forum.

Gardyloo Jan 12, 2013 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 20035277)

Which is where I'm merging this thread.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

pandaperth Jan 13, 2013 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by Guy Betsy (Post 20035534)
You do need however 4 flights on AA per year to retain status

While it is in the AAdvantage program rules, I believe this requirement is not enforced

And I hope that is the case, because I have an upcoming RTW trip which will reap me enough points to re-qualify for Platinum, but there are no AA flights on the itinerary

nambrot Jan 14, 2013 1:22 pm

Hi everyone love this thread as i was just about to decide which program to take:

Questions
For members asking for information please help people to assist you, can you provide:
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: TXL, SXF, BER (at some point hopefully). BOS when im in the US
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy ? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: only when neccessary, so I always fly cheapest
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: transatlantic, some US domestic, German
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: No
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: free benefits
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: AA, BA

Im currently on BA's EC because I heard good things about Avios

thskyisthelimit Jan 16, 2013 2:50 am

Hi,

Currently i'm based in Sydney. However my home is Singapore which i travel back every now and then.

I fly about 25k-50k a year and usually on Economy.

I'm usually on Singapore Airlines for comfort and better timing, and even using them so i can transit back home before traveling outbound to other destinations for work and pleasure. (Achieved *G)

As I'm based in Sydney, i will be doing some domestic travels for work and leisure but I've no status here and its annoying to get stucked in the same route trying to attain status again.

I'm a TK Gold and A3 Gold now.

It is important to me is Lounge and extra baggages. Redemption is difficult at times thus usually i buy a flex fare tix to match my travel pattern.

I would prefer Qantas as they have wider selection of flights from Sydney.

Kindly please advise what should i do?

nux Jan 16, 2013 3:11 am


Originally Posted by thskyisthelimit (Post 20057157)
As I'm based in Sydney, i will be doing some domestic travels for work and leisure but I've no status here and its annoying to get stucked in the same route trying to attain status again.

Kindly please advise what should i do?

It would be difficult to achieve OW status that would give you lounge access if mainly flying domestic economy in Australia, if there were a few long hauls in business its possible.

I would say your options are between Qantas and AA, with Qantas being good in that you will get 100% miles and guaranteed 1000 points per flight, even on the cheapest economy ticket.

lcpteck Jan 17, 2013 6:41 am

FFP recommendation
 
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure/leisure
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Asia Pacific
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: None

Mwenenzi Jan 17, 2013 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by lcpteck (Post 20065596)
(1)(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
<snip>
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access

No expiry of mileage earned does not really happen now. Most (all OW?) require an eligible activity to maintain an account within a certain time.
Expiring miles used to happen at 3 years in many FFP, buy many now have an 18 month no activity rule.

These may not be up to date (look at Validity of Points)
http://www.hotels-and-travel.de/ffp/...ld/ow_ruby.htm
http://www.hotels-and-travel.de/ffp/...w_sapphire.htm

thskyisthelimit Jan 18, 2013 1:07 am

hey nux,

not just domestic but flying out of Sydney internationally as they have other options and with them selling emirates tickets now, it makes going to Europe a tat easier!

However, because they don't status match, i will still stick to star alliance as we still have benefits on them.

thskyisthelimit Jan 18, 2013 1:09 am


Originally Posted by lcpteck (Post 20065596)
(1) What is your home airport? (SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: SIN
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? (<25K, 25k-50k, >50k)
Reply: <25K Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy? ( First, Business, Economy etc.)
Reply: Economy
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or, class of service?. Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Travel for pleasure/leisure
(5) Which routes do you fly most often (US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Asia Pacific
(6) Do you have FFP status of any kind of OW or other airline at present? What is it? (AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None
(7) What is most important to you in a FFP? (upgrades on travel, priority services when flying the airline, extra baggage allowance, good award redemption rates, better award access, free - discounted lounge access, etc.)
Reply: No expiry of mileage earned, good award redemption rates, better award access
(8) Preferred Airlines
Reply: None


Hey, it depends on which carrier you'll used often and do you always buy discount tickets.

I'm shuttling to and fro from Sydney to Singapore and I'll fly Singapore airlines and clock Aegean Mileage to get *G faster!

So it depends on which airlines u take often and do u buy full fare.

nux Jan 18, 2013 1:42 am


Originally Posted by thskyisthelimit (Post 20072951)
hey nux,

not just domestic but flying out of Sydney internationally as they have other options and with them selling emirates tickets now, it makes going to Europe a tat easier!

However, because they don't status match, i will still stick to star alliance as we still have benefits on them.

Well you did ask which OW airline program you should join..

Your choices for Australian Domestic are Qantas and Virgin, neither of which are Star Alliance.

If you are going to be flying Emirates long haul, then Qantas is the obvious choice of program for any OW travel because of the tie up with Emirates. Although full details haven't been announced, you should be able to get FF points credited to Qantas when flying Emirates.


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