Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program? Help is here.
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Do we have any further information on when the AS takeover of HA will be effective for oneworld mileage accrual purposes?
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If the only eligible routes sold with AA codeshares are operated by AA (or AA and BA), then it is arguably deceptive to mention "oneworld carriers," rather than just to specify AA or AA and BA. It's even more deceptive if AA does not define "eligible routes" in a place readily accessible by the traveler.
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And the OW web site and OW thread--> https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...merged-40.html
From comments in the AS HA threads when AS took over Virgin USA took over a year to merge the ffp's
#2029
Join Date: Mar 2025
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This might be too outside the box for you, but one idea might be to use round-the-world (RTW) tickets that could cover both your annual travel to Indonesia but also intra-Asia supplemental travel AND your annual intra-Europe trip. It would go like this.
(Note Oneworld's RTW products, mainly the Oneworld Explorer, are the main topic of discussion on this board, so research on your part needn't be too complicated.)
It looks like typical economy fares in mid-summer from AMS to CGK return can run in the 1,200 - 1,500+ range, although you might have access to cheaper fares. An economy class Oneworld LONE3 RTW ticket with travel beginning and ending in the Euro countries has a base price of around 2,100. That would get you up to 16 flights through 3 continents (Europe, Asia, North or South America) over 12 months from the first flight.
However, the same ticket, but with travel beginning and ending in Norway, carries a base price of 1,490. You could probably get from AMS to OSL for way less than the 500 or 600 you'd save on the base ticket. (Note kids under 12 get a 25% discount.)
With that ticket, you could fly to CGK via Doha or Helsinki + Hong Kong, or various other routes served by Oneworld airlines. Visit your people or places in Indonesia, then maybe do a side trip to Japan or Malaysia or wherever, then when it's time to head home, you'd cross the Pacific, maybe to Vancouver, Dallas or San Francisco, then to AMS. You'd still have many months' validity for the ticket, so you could use the ticket for a trip to, say, the UK or Spain, or back to Doha, before ending back in Norway before the 12th month has ended.
Of course, if you wanted to linger in North America, which includes Central America and the Caribbean, you could do that on the way back to Holland. Here's an imaginary map showing a possible "minimal" RTW route:

And here's one that includes places like Vancouver BC, Los Angeles, Miami and Aruba.

The point being, with a "master plan" you might be able to leverage considerably more travel out of your out-of-pocket Euros. Maybe worth some research and "what if" speculation.
(Note Oneworld's RTW products, mainly the Oneworld Explorer, are the main topic of discussion on this board, so research on your part needn't be too complicated.)
It looks like typical economy fares in mid-summer from AMS to CGK return can run in the 1,200 - 1,500+ range, although you might have access to cheaper fares. An economy class Oneworld LONE3 RTW ticket with travel beginning and ending in the Euro countries has a base price of around 2,100. That would get you up to 16 flights through 3 continents (Europe, Asia, North or South America) over 12 months from the first flight.
However, the same ticket, but with travel beginning and ending in Norway, carries a base price of 1,490. You could probably get from AMS to OSL for way less than the 500 or 600 you'd save on the base ticket. (Note kids under 12 get a 25% discount.)
With that ticket, you could fly to CGK via Doha or Helsinki + Hong Kong, or various other routes served by Oneworld airlines. Visit your people or places in Indonesia, then maybe do a side trip to Japan or Malaysia or wherever, then when it's time to head home, you'd cross the Pacific, maybe to Vancouver, Dallas or San Francisco, then to AMS. You'd still have many months' validity for the ticket, so you could use the ticket for a trip to, say, the UK or Spain, or back to Doha, before ending back in Norway before the 12th month has ended.
Of course, if you wanted to linger in North America, which includes Central America and the Caribbean, you could do that on the way back to Holland. Here's an imaginary map showing a possible "minimal" RTW route:

And here's one that includes places like Vancouver BC, Los Angeles, Miami and Aruba.

The point being, with a "master plan" you might be able to leverage considerably more travel out of your out-of-pocket Euros. Maybe worth some research and "what if" speculation.
#2030

Join Date: Dec 2023
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Hey everyone! I recently moved to Singapore and expect to be undertaking a bit of travel with work. I’d love to get OWE status if possible and exploring options for which FFP to use to try and get there. Any advice for Asia based travellers would be greatly appreciated!
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
OWE status, followed by good award redemption rates
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
It wildly varies, but when paying cash for flights, usually 1 return business flight long haul (I.e. SIN - LHR) and 2 return business flights short haul (I.e. SIN - HKG)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
I mostly redeem avios for award flights, otherwise go for the cheapest possible options in business class when paying cash
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I can be flexible, and travel for both work and pleasure an even amount
(5) Which routes do you fly most often?
N/A
(6) What is your home airport?
SIN
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Royal Jordanian Gold Sparrow (OW Sapphire)
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I most often fly either QR or CX (though mostly on award flights)
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
OWE status, followed by good award redemption rates
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
It wildly varies, but when paying cash for flights, usually 1 return business flight long haul (I.e. SIN - LHR) and 2 return business flights short haul (I.e. SIN - HKG)
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
I mostly redeem avios for award flights, otherwise go for the cheapest possible options in business class when paying cash
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
I can be flexible, and travel for both work and pleasure an even amount
(5) Which routes do you fly most often?
N/A
(6) What is your home airport?
SIN
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Royal Jordanian Gold Sparrow (OW Sapphire)
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I most often fly either QR or CX (though mostly on award flights)
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Hey everyone! I recently moved to Singapore and expect to be undertaking a bit of travel with work. I’d love to get OWE status if possible and exploring options for which FFP to use to try and get there. Any advice for Asia based travellers would be greatly appreciated!
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
OWE status, followed by good award redemption rates
<snip>
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
I mostly redeem avios for award flights, otherwise go for the cheapest possible options in business class when paying cash
<snip>
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Royal Jordanian Gold Sparrow (OW Sapphire)
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I most often fly either QR or CX (though mostly on award flights)
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
OWE status, followed by good award redemption rates
<snip>
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
I mostly redeem avios for award flights, otherwise go for the cheapest possible options in business class when paying cash
<snip>
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Royal Jordanian Gold Sparrow (OW Sapphire)
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
I most often fly either QR or CX (though mostly on award flights)
Where do get the avios from? (BA QR IB EI AY ffp's)
What do hope OW Emerald will do for you, over OW Sapphire?
#2033

Join Date: Dec 2023
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I get avios primarily through CC spend and occasionally purchasing in sales.
I'd like to aim for OWE for first class lounge access. I expect to be flying OW from SIN, HKG, SYD, DOH which all have great first class lounges.
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Sorry i should have mentioned, with Royal Jordanian I only got there with a status match. To earn OWE with them I'd be starting from scratch, same as any other FFP.
I get avios primarily through CC spend and occasionally purchasing in sales.
I'd like to aim for OWE for first class lounge access. I expect to be flying OW from SIN, HKG, SYD, DOH which all have great first class lounges.
I get avios primarily through CC spend and occasionally purchasing in sales.
I'd like to aim for OWE for first class lounge access. I expect to be flying OW from SIN, HKG, SYD, DOH which all have great first class lounges.
"It wildly varies, but when paying cash for flights, usually 1 return business flight long haul (I.e. SIN - LHR) and 2 return business flights short haul (I.e. SIN - HKG)"
why would you expect to attain anything beyond oneworld Ruby?
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Join Date: Dec 2023
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I recognise this alone wouldn't even get me OWS, though ill be taking other (as yet unplanned) flights for both business and pleasure over the coming year. Not knowing qhat they are yet, i haven't included...but do expect to be able to achieve OWE through a fair amount of flying.
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I recognise this alone wouldn't even get me OWS, though ill be taking other (as yet unplanned) flights for both business and pleasure over the coming year. Not knowing qhat they are yet, i haven't included...but do expect to be able to achieve OWE through a fair amount of flying.
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Join Date: Sep 2024
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I recognise this alone wouldn't even get me OWS, though ill be taking other (as yet unplanned) flights for both business and pleasure over the coming year. Not knowing qhat they are yet, i haven't included...but do expect to be able to achieve OWE through a fair amount of flying.
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how many of these unplanned flights will be award flights? you may still not be able to achieve OWE because of that. you also need to consider that *A is stronger in asia, and SQ is also with *A, so they maybe a better fit if you wish to take advantage of the relocation to SG and visit asia countries. im assuming you arent from asia originally. OW do have cx and jl, but it will be a non-direct flight outside of hk and japan
#2039
Join Date: Sep 2024
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it's not about the fares, but the convenience. flights within asia can be quite short, so doesnt make sense to add a lot to the travel time by taking a round about route and a layover. also, flights with a layover is unlikely to have the best timing


