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Old Aug 25, 2024 | 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by izzik
  • With the information provided, I'm leaning towards recommending BA because of the extended award availability calendar and the potential for achieving GGL which addresses family status.
Except that we don't know the OP's intended redemption destinations. Most of his paid travel is not to/from Europe, so extended award availability on BA and family status in BAEC might be of little actual value to him.
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Old Aug 25, 2024 | 11:44 am
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Except that we don't know the OP's intended redemption destinations. Most of his paid travel is not to/from Europe, so extended award availability on BA and family status in BAEC might be of little actual value to him.
Which is why I requested additional detail lol.
The last bullet was a comment based on limited information but obviously not final.
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Old Aug 25, 2024 | 3:24 pm
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FFQ for my younger brother. Family has been on CX Asia Miles

Just asking this thread about his Oneworld FFQ.
Questions are
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Perks, and priority services
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
(<25000, 25000-50000, >50000 miles - <25, 25-50, >50 flights?)
Reply: 16,000-50,000 miles. Usually on Economy
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
(First, Business, Premium economy, Economy, cheapest)
Reply: Economy and if applicable upgrades to Business Class
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Reply: Family has CX FFQs and it's vacation/family trip
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
(US Domestic, Transpacific, Kangaroo, in Asia etc)
Reply: Transpacific and Domestic US and Australia that means CX,JL, AA/AS and QF
(6) What is your home airport?
(SFO, SCL, London LHR, HKG, Singapore SIN etc.)
Reply: EWR/JFK Asia Pacific and Australia PER/KIX/MNL/CRK
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
(AA Executive Platinum, QF Gold, UA 1K, LAN Comodoro, etc)
Reply: None so far. His is banked on a PR Mabuhay Miles
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Reply: CX for JFK/EWR-MNL via HKG or JFK/EWR-PER via HKG. Has done PR recently VX pre-merger with Oneworld member AS

Special note: Should he pick these ones JAL JMB QF Frequent Flyer AS Millage Plan AA Advantage as his Oneworld FFQ or not? Everyone else in the family as CX Asia Miles since 1999- December 17th 2005

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Old Aug 25, 2024 | 7:39 pm
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Mahalo All Responders. I guess I should have emphasized my interest in improving my position with HA/AS post merger. I have not used AS cause I donʻt care for the 737 over water. I like HAʻs layflat cabins and I do worry how AS will assimilate HAʻs plane leases. HA has 330ʻs and 787ʻs which I like, and am hoping the 787ʻs might survive. My preference is to get to Europe/Brazil/Asia with 1 single stop, so historically DL HNL/ATL/AMS or HNL/SEA/AMS, etc.

I like the results for AA Biz fares to GRU, havenʻt looked into their nonstops to Europe from DFW, which is a good jump from HNL. I mostly work out of AMS, CDG some German cities not that inconvenient.
The OW affiliation with JA is important, they have very competitive fares, good cab/service, and they fly to where I want to go in Asia

To Izzik;
  • Finish the run to 2MM on Delta if possible. Even if Skyteam is not a focus, it's better to lock it in before the goal posts are moved.
  • DL has increased their fares significantly over UA such that I canʻt imagine accumulating another 300k miles (Iʻm 70 later this year), especially given the HA (ex-ST) incorporation into OW.
  • How much progress on United MM status?
  • Iʻm 200k in in 2 yrs.
  • What kind of awards (Y, C, F) are important for redemption? And on what routes?
  • HNL to mainland and HNL to Europe/Asia, mainly to comp or upgrade my wife
  • Unless AA status is the goal, credit card spend is potentially more valuable on a hotel program card. Hyatt or Hilton, not so much Marriott.
  • Hmm, thereʻs a rub...Iʻm Bonvoy Plat/T depending on the year. Where I travel, other than AMS, there better situated for me.
  • With the information provided, I'm leaning towards recommending BA because of the extended award availability calendar and the potential for achieving GGL which addresses family status.
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Old Aug 26, 2024 | 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by Hawaiino
Mahalo All Responders. I guess I should have emphasized my interest in improving my position with HA/AS post merger. I have not used AS cause I donʻt care for the 737 over water. I like HAʻs layflat cabins and I do worry how AS will assimilate HAʻs plane leases. HA has 330ʻs and 787ʻs which I like, and am hoping the 787ʻs might survive. My preference is to get to Europe/Brazil/Asia with 1 single stop, so historically DL HNL/ATL/AMS or HNL/SEA/AMS, etc.
Very helpful, thanks! Yes, definitely wait and see how the Alaska/HA merger pans out.. if it even happens. I would love to see HA expand their nonstops to other North American cities. ORD, MIA, CLT esp.
If you are redeeming for HNL-mainland flights, then I think Alaska Mileage Plan would be better. They will likely absorb HA lifetime miles into their program too. I do wonder how they'll account for inter-island commuters who had Pualani Gold on segments but would theoretically drop to low level elite if getting 500 min miles/segment.
Top tier AS elites can gift status as well, which helps on the family stuff.
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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by izzik
Very helpful, thanks! Yes, definitely wait and see how the Alaska/HA merger pans out.. if it even happens. I would love to see HA expand their nonstops to other North American cities. ORD, MIA, CLT esp.
If you are redeeming for HNL-mainland flights, then I think Alaska Mileage Plan would be better. They will likely absorb HA lifetime miles into their program too. I do wonder how they'll account for inter-island commuters who had Pualani Gold on segments but would theoretically drop to low level elite if getting 500 min miles/segment.
Top tier AS elites can gift status as well, which helps on the family stuff.
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Old Sep 21, 2024 | 9:08 am
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Very helpful, thanks! Yes, definitely wait and see how the Alaska/HA merger pans out.. if it even happens.

well.here we are ! The dust hasnt settled yet but I thought Id bump the thread in case theres any new information that Im not aware of. Im down to a few months and 1 trip to BKK/China and 1 mainland trip left to book. Not sure I can status match my 1K to an AA Plat + level with that spend

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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 6:55 pm
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Question Help us Choose FF Program..

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
- Good award redemption rate & access (ie no blackout dates, etc).
- Would appreciate option to use rewards for upgrades which would allow us to use the smaller mileage amounts we gain in a way thats become more a necessity than a luxury as we age.
- Good lounge access would be a nice perk for the international trips but without status I assume it's unlikely & isn't as important as reward value/easy redemption.


(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Unsure of average miles but its low. Our year usually consists of 2-3 Domestic non-stop flights + 1 International with a single layover.

(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
In the past it was cheapest or economy. However, now it feels necessary to book premium economy or business for anything over 5 hours.

(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Leisure travel only & usually end up on Alaska, Southwest, or Delta.
We both have owner-operated service businesses which doesnt allow us much time for travel, however we try to do at least 1 bucket-list trip and/or a visit to Hawaii each year.
All other flights are to visit family or friends in Washington or Midwest.


(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Domestic: SAN-SEA, SAN-OGG, SAN-OMA.

(6) What is your home airport?
SAN but often use LAX for international flights

(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Miles, No status.
- Alaska: Roughly 90k miles & partner has just shy of 19k. Also have the Alaska cc for companion pass, priority boarding, & free checked bags.
- Southwest: Roughly 26k miles & partner has 3k.
- Delta: I have 27.5k miles, unsure of partner balance.

Credit Card Points:
- Chase Ultimate rewards via Sapphire Reserve + Freedom (5% bonus categories)
- Barclaycard World Arrival+ ...Despite the poor value we find it useful to use for everyday purchases & then use the points to pay ourselves back for some of our travel purchases


(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Alaska & Southwest. However, if there's something that you feel would better suit our needs I'm open to learning a new program!
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Jibber;36569172[b
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Unsure of average miles but it’s low. Our year usually consists of 2-3 Domestic non-stop flights + 1 International with a single layover.
<snip>
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
Miles, No status.
- Alaska: Roughly 90k miles & partner has just shy of 19k. Also have the Alaska cc for companion pass, priority boarding, & free checked bags.
- Southwest: Roughly 26k miles & partner has 3k.
- Delta: I have 27.5k miles, unsure of partner balance.
<snip>!
(2) With so little flights FFP frequent flyer programs are not for you. Frequent spender programs (that go to FFP) may be of value. Do not expect much.
(7) Alaska has taken over Hawaiian Airways and will have 1 FFP and later 1 reservation system. Hawaiian will be a brand of Alaska.

Alaska is in Oneworld alliance (this is the OW which ffp thread)
Another thread Which Frequent Flyer Program to Join? Help Is Here!

Just keep selecting flights based on best schedule - price.
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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
Jibber Welcome to FT

(2) With so little flights FFP frequent flyer programs are not for you. Frequent spender programs (that go to FFP) may be of value. Do not expect much.
(7) Alaska has taken over Hawaiian Airways and will have 1 FFP and later 1 reservation system. Hawaiian will be a brand of Alaska.

Alaska is in Oneworld alliance (this is the OW which ffp thread)

Just keep selecting flights based on best schedule - price.
Thats kinda what I feared, just hoped there may be a method of getting better use of our miles/cc points to book better seat class on long hauls.

Will do some further reading on how best to utilize our spending points. Thanks for the reply
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Old Oct 9, 2024 | 6:51 am
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Mainly looking for suggestions on either BAEC or QR
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Lounge Access, ease of redemption?
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
60-80k miles, I do twice yearly QR J from CGK-JFK, booked on AA code. Rest I mix between CX Y and some domestic US AS/AA J/Y flights.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Business on longer hauls, Eco on CX and short haul domestic.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Travel for leisure, so have full freedom and willing to do status runs.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Mentioned above, CGK-JFK QR J on AA code, w
(6) What is your home airport?
HKG

My main concern is choosing between either QR or BA as they seem to be the easiest in earning status based on what I'm flying. I would earn around 270 Q points on a single CGK-DOH-JFK roundtrip and 600 BA tier points.
I would have a good chance of earning OWE in either of the programs. I currently have BA gold and a negligible amount of Avios in it but I have to go out of my way to fly the 4 sectors. I rarely travel to Europe.

I am expecting a move to the US soon, though, but I would continue to fly similar routes, except probably more US domestic.


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Originally Posted by SaltySteak
Mainly looking for suggestions on either BAEC or QR
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Lounge Access, ease of redemption?
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
60-80k miles, I do twice yearly QR J from CGK-JFK, booked on AA code. Rest I mix between CX Y and some domestic US AS/AA J/Y flights.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Business on longer hauls, Eco on CX and short haul domestic.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Travel for leisure, so have full freedom and willing to do status runs.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Mentioned above, CGK-JFK QR J on AA code, w
(6) What is your home airport?
HKG

My main concern is choosing between either QR or BA as they seem to be the easiest in earning status based on what I'm flying. I would earn around 270 Q points on a single CGK-DOH-JFK roundtrip and 600 BA tier points.
I would have a good chance of earning OWE in either of the programs. I currently have BA gold and a negligible amount of Avios in it but I have to go out of my way to fly the 4 sectors. I rarely travel to Europe.

I am expecting a move to the US soon, though, but I would continue to fly similar routes, except probably more US domestic.
QR has the same segment requirement that BA has. The CGK-NYC deal is only on AA codes, you have to pay A LOT more to get QR codes on it, despite being QR metal. If you want an Avios program then probably need to look at AY or IB, they don't have segment requirements.

You also need to check your CX Y segments, they may not credit to many places, a lot of the lower economy fares don't credit to most OW partners, those that do only credit at 25% (BA, IB, & AS) If you'll no longer have CX economy segments after moving then that may not be a concern anymore.

I would probably be looking at AS as a potential as it's not too hard to hit 50 or 75k in that program, but it sounds like you may be after domestic US lounge access which it won't grant you. AA business class flights credit pretty strongly in AY, so that may be the next place to look.
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Old Oct 9, 2024 | 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
QR has the same segment requirement that BA has. The CGK-NYC deal is only on AA codes, you have to pay A LOT more to get QR codes on it, despite being QR metal. If you want an Avios program then probably need to look at AY or IB, they don't have segment requirements.

You also need to check your CX Y segments, they may not credit to many places, a lot of the lower economy fares don't credit to most OW partners, those that do only credit at 25% (BA, IB, & AS) If you'll no longer have CX economy segments after moving then that may not be a concern anymore.

I would probably be looking at AS as a potential as it's not too hard to hit 50 or 75k in that program, but it sounds like you may be after domestic US lounge access which it won't grant you. AA business class flights credit pretty strongly in AY, so that may be the next place to look.
Thanks for the feedback, according to the current Qatar language it says, you will need to have earned at least 20% of your Qpoints or have flown 4 sectors (within 12 months prior to retention) or 8 sectors (within 24 months prior to retention) on flights either marketed* or operated** by Qatar Airways. so judging by that my CGK-JFK twice round trip would satisfy the sector requirement. However, I probably wont see a lot of benefits outside of OWE with QR as the main Al Safwa access must be on QR code. I might do around 1 round trip a year on Qatar which may be on J. Will also research more into the AY program.
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Originally Posted by SaltySteak
Mainly looking for suggestions on either BAEC or QR
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Lounge Access, ease of redemption?
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
60-80k miles, I do twice yearly QR J from CGK-JFK, booked on AA code. Rest I mix between CX Y and some domestic US AS/AA J/Y flights.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Business on longer hauls, Eco on CX and short haul domestic.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Travel for leisure, so have full freedom and willing to do status runs.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
Mentioned above, CGK-JFK QR J on AA code, w
(6) What is your home airport?
HKG

My main concern is choosing between either QR or BA as they seem to be the easiest in earning status based on what I'm flying. I would earn around 270 Q points on a single CGK-DOH-JFK roundtrip and 600 BA tier points.
I would have a good chance of earning OWE in either of the programs. I currently have BA gold and a negligible amount of Avios in it but I have to go out of my way to fly the 4 sectors. I rarely travel to Europe.

I am expecting a move to the US soon, though, but I would continue to fly similar routes, except probably more US domestic.
CGK-DOH-JFK-DOH-CGK in J credited to Iberia Plus would get you 2,200 of the 2,250 IB+ Elite Points needed for oneworld Sapphire; IB does not require any flights on IB metal or IB codes to attain status. You might or might not achieve oneworld Emerald status with IB+, but Sapphire might be sufficient for your needs.

The Iberia Plus Avios you earn can be transferred to BA, and thence to AY or linked to QR, if necessary, for better award redemptions.
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Old Nov 10, 2024 | 8:00 am
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Just had my 6 month status match to BA Gold expire and feeling the blues...

(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Access to AA Flagship Lounges on domestic itineraries
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
International trips are with miles and always premium cabin. Domestic travel in economy - mainly DL, but willing to accept AA non-IFE aircraft for the nicer and less crowded ORD Flagship Lounge. Fly 30-50 domestic segments/year.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Domestic main cabin (no basic economy).
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Yes. Pleasure.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
GRB - DL hub / ORD - SRQ/RSW/TPA
(6) What is your home airport?
GRB, but easy drives to ATW, CWA, RHI, ESC, IMT, MSN, and MKE
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