Deciding on a Oneworld Frequent Flyer Program? Help is here.
#1801
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 34,987
I just did the JFK-BCN trip over New Year’s (big snafu coming back that had me ranting all over the AA board btw lol) but didn’t credit either leg anywhere yet. So actually I think I would be at 3,200. I didn’t even bother to look because I’m already OW Sapphire through end of the year with Cathay. I had no idea about the differentiation on AA like that. That’s so random, no?
By the way, if you're considering crediting the recent AA flights to IB and do not yet have an Iberia Plus account, be careful: I know that Iberia lets existing members seek retroactive credit, but I'm not sure if Iberia lets one seek retroactive credit for flights that took place before one joined Iberia Plus. In any case, you would only need 50 more Iberia Elite points by March 31 to get Iberia Oro, if you credit the upcoming QR roundtrip to Iberia. Any other travel -- even domestic travel -- before March 31?
And yes, I remember the saga of your trip home from BCN; just did not remember that that was you. Glad that you made it back eventually.
#1802




Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 552
I think that AA has a special relationship of some sort with the identified oneworld carriers; I know that AA is in a joint-business venture with at least some of them.
By the way, if you're considering crediting the recent AA flights to IB and do not yet have an Iberia Plus account, be careful: I know that Iberia lets existing members seek retroactive credit, but I'm not sure if Iberia lets one seek retroactive credit for flights that took place before one joined Iberia Plus. In any case, you would only need 50 more Iberia Elite points by March 31 to get Iberia Oro, if you credit the upcoming QR roundtrip to Iberia. Any other travel -- even domestic travel -- before March 31?
And yes, I remember the saga of your trip home from BCN; just did not remember that that was you. Glad that you made it back eventually.
By the way, if you're considering crediting the recent AA flights to IB and do not yet have an Iberia Plus account, be careful: I know that Iberia lets existing members seek retroactive credit, but I'm not sure if Iberia lets one seek retroactive credit for flights that took place before one joined Iberia Plus. In any case, you would only need 50 more Iberia Elite points by March 31 to get Iberia Oro, if you credit the upcoming QR roundtrip to Iberia. Any other travel -- even domestic travel -- before March 31?
And yes, I remember the saga of your trip home from BCN; just did not remember that that was you. Glad that you made it back eventually.
Thanks again, you’ve been super helpful! 🙏🏼
#1803


Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 406
Asking for my septuagenarian widowed mother. I think I'm deciding between BA, AS and AA but maybe I'm missing something.
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Miles not expiring due to inactivity; getting some sort of value (tiny discount, ability to redeem miles for ancillary benefits) without too much effort learning all the ins and outs of the program.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Under 30,000. Domestic within Canada and one or two transatlantics. Usually in Y or in PY if not too much more.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Pleasure. Most travel would be AC, but need somewhere to dump the BA miles when the schedule/price is more appealing.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
AC YYZ-YEG, YYZ-LHR
(6) What is your home airport?
YYZ or YXU
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
None.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Air Canada, WestJet (I know, not relevant to OW).
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Miles not expiring due to inactivity; getting some sort of value (tiny discount, ability to redeem miles for ancillary benefits) without too much effort learning all the ins and outs of the program.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Under 30,000. Domestic within Canada and one or two transatlantics. Usually in Y or in PY if not too much more.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Pleasure. Most travel would be AC, but need somewhere to dump the BA miles when the schedule/price is more appealing.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
AC YYZ-YEG, YYZ-LHR
(6) What is your home airport?
YYZ or YXU
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
None.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Air Canada, WestJet (I know, not relevant to OW).
#1804
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 34,987
Asking for my septuagenarian widowed mother. I think I'm deciding between BA, AS and AA but maybe I'm missing something.
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Miles not expiring due to inactivity; getting some sort of value (tiny discount, ability to redeem miles for ancillary benefits) without too much effort learning all the ins and outs of the program.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Under 30,000. Domestic within Canada and one or two transatlantics. Usually in Y or in PY if not too much more.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Pleasure. Most travel would be AC, but need somewhere to dump the BA miles when the schedule/price is more appealing.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
AC YYZ-YEG, YYZ-LHR
(6) What is your home airport?
YYZ or YXU
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
None.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Air Canada, WestJet (I know, not relevant to OW).
(1) What is most important to you in a FFP?
Miles not expiring due to inactivity; getting some sort of value (tiny discount, ability to redeem miles for ancillary benefits) without too much effort learning all the ins and outs of the program.
(2) How many miles do you usually fly each year & in what class? How many flights/sectors?
Under 30,000. Domestic within Canada and one or two transatlantics. Usually in Y or in PY if not too much more.
(3) What types of fares do you usually buy?
Economy.
(4) Can you choose your airlines and/or class of service? Do you travel for work and/or pleasure?
Pleasure. Most travel would be AC, but need somewhere to dump the BA miles when the schedule/price is more appealing.
(5) Which routes and airlines do you fly most often?
AC YYZ-YEG, YYZ-LHR
(6) What is your home airport?
YYZ or YXU
(7) Do you have FFP status of any kind in OW or other airline? What is it? Do you have any miles banked in a FFP?
None.
(8) Preferred Airlines? Most common Airlines flown on?
Air Canada, WestJet (I know, not relevant to OW).
Last edited by guv1976; Feb 4, 2024 at 9:24 pm
#1805
Join Date: Feb 2024
Posts: 1
RJ Gold Requalification via tier miles doesn't require min. RJ segments anymore?
Dear all,
i was wondering if someone familiar with Royal Jordanian - Royal Club could help to verify this information I received from one of their agents.
My understanding was for requalification of Gold Sparrow status via tier miles, one would need to clock in 30,000 tier miles AND fly a minimum of 10 segments on RJ metal even if requalifying through the tier miles route.
However, I received this reply recently. Based on your experience and knowledge of their T&Cs, has anything changed or agent provided inaccurate informain?
If this is accurate, RJ would be one of the easiest oneworld FFP to earn status with.
Thank you!
Sorry unable to post screenshot as I have not posted at least 5x, but sharing a direct quote from the email from RJ on Gold qualification requirement
i was wondering if someone familiar with Royal Jordanian - Royal Club could help to verify this information I received from one of their agents.
My understanding was for requalification of Gold Sparrow status via tier miles, one would need to clock in 30,000 tier miles AND fly a minimum of 10 segments on RJ metal even if requalifying through the tier miles route.
However, I received this reply recently. Based on your experience and knowledge of their T&Cs, has anything changed or agent provided inaccurate informain?
If this is accurate, RJ would be one of the easiest oneworld FFP to earn status with.
Thank you!
from: [email protected]
Thank you for your email. Yes, the required to maintain your gold status is either 30,000 tier miles OR 26 segments. Accumulating 30,000 tier miles is sufficient, despite of the number of RJ segments. There is no requirement for flying a specific number of RJ segments. Any RJ or oneworld segment will count towards the maintain, provided that the booking class is eligible. Our Call Center Team remains at your service 24/7 at +962.6.5100000. Luma Faraj Senior Supervisor Members Services TeamRoyal Club - Frequent Flyer Program
Thank you for your email. Yes, the required to maintain your gold status is either 30,000 tier miles OR 26 segments. Accumulating 30,000 tier miles is sufficient, despite of the number of RJ segments. There is no requirement for flying a specific number of RJ segments. Any RJ or oneworld segment will count towards the maintain, provided that the booking class is eligible. Our Call Center Team remains at your service 24/7 at +962.6.5100000. Luma Faraj Senior Supervisor Members Services TeamRoyal Club - Frequent Flyer Program
#1808




Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Heart of America.
Programs: I sign up for programs so they have my preferences on file.
Posts: 27
(1) What is your home airport? GSP/AVL
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Main Cabin
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?(0-5k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None
(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only
(7) Preferred Airlines= Anything but Allegiant, Spirit & Frontier.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) Pleasure and main cabin.
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Main Cabin
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?(0-5k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None
(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only
(7) Preferred Airlines= Anything but Allegiant, Spirit & Frontier.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) Pleasure and main cabin.
#1809




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
(1) What is your home airport? GSP/AVL
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Main Cabin
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?(0-5k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None
(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only
(7) Preferred Airlines= Anything but Allegiant, Spirit & Frontier.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) Pleasure and main cabin.
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Main Cabin
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?(0-5k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None
(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only
(7) Preferred Airlines= Anything but Allegiant, Spirit & Frontier.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) Pleasure and main cabin.
There are cards also for other airlines, like Chase has BA and IB cards, but if you're not flying international they wouldn't be as beneficial as the AA or AS card if looking for OneWorld miles. There's also a JL and CX card, but both US market cards are garbage.
#1810
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 34,987
(1) What is your home airport? GSP/AVL
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Main Cabin
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?(0-5k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None
(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only
(7) Preferred Airlines= Anything but Allegiant, Spirit & Frontier.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) Pleasure and main cabin.
(2) What types of fares do you usually buy ? Main Cabin
(3) How many miles do you usually fly each year?(0-5k
(4) Do you have any kind of status at present? What is it? None
(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only
(7) Preferred Airlines= Anything but Allegiant, Spirit & Frontier.
(8) Do you travel for work or pleasure? (Can you choose your airlines, class of service?) Pleasure and main cabin.
Even if you weren't asking only about oneworld programs, my recommendation would still be AA. AA often offers very low redemption rates for domestic Coach travel, and you can easily get a lot of miles from the two different credit cards.
#1811




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central Florida and Bangkok
Posts: 417
For new members, it's 12 months to achieve the initial level. 150/300/600 Q points. Then it's a reduced amount to re-qualify. As soon as you achieve a level, the clock starts ticking for renewal within the next 12 months for that level. For a 12 month period you would only need 540 Q points to renew at Platinum, or else they would also look at the previous 2 years to see total Q points. Not sure if it's 1080 for the 2 year period.
#1812

Join Date: Dec 2023
Programs: Cathay Pacific Asia Miles Korean Air Skypass Philippine Airlines Mabuhay Miles
Posts: 626
Since you're posting in the oneworld FFP thread, I assume that you're asking whether it's best to join AA vs. AS, BA, IB, or some other oneworld program. For your situation, I think that you'd get the best bang for the buck joining AAdvantage, since they are the oneworld carrier you will be flying out of AVL/GSP. And with AA, you can get generous credit-card sign-up bonuses from two different issuers: Barclays and Citi.
Even if you weren't asking only about oneworld programs, my recommendation would still be AA. AA often offers very low redemption rates for domestic Coach travel, and you can easily get a lot of miles from the two different credit cards.
Even if you weren't asking only about oneworld programs, my recommendation would still be AA. AA often offers very low redemption rates for domestic Coach travel, and you can easily get a lot of miles from the two different credit cards.
#1813
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 34,987
that can work however if you are going into Europe you're better off going something like Iberia Plus/British airways excutive club. Remember the maximum tier allows you to gain access to American Airlines Flagship lounges Admirals Club even though you are traveling in main cabin only within the United States. That's the advantage of foreign FFQ
"(5) What is most important to you in a PFPetc.) FOR me it’s redemption rates at main cabin flexible fare awards.
"(6) Which routes do you fly most often US Domestic Airlines Only"
Since he is flying out of GSP/AVL, he may well be connecting somewhere on AA. On connecting routes, BA/IB is likely to charge more for such trips than AA would. For example, for travel from GSP to LAX in March, you can get a one-stop, Main Cabin itinerary for just 8,500 AA miles. I expect that you would pay a lot more than that if redeeming Avios.
#1814




Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, A3 Gold, Former UA 1K
Posts: 6,365
that can work however if you are going into Europe you're better off going something like Iberia Plus/British airways excutive club. Remember the maximum tier allows you to gain access to American Airlines Flagship lounges Admirals Club even though you are traveling in main cabin only within the United States. That's the advantage of foreign FFQ
#1815

Join Date: Dec 2023
Programs: Cathay Pacific Asia Miles Korean Air Skypass Philippine Airlines Mabuhay Miles
Posts: 626

