I think they mean kingfisher Airlines, not Kingfisher Beers or whatsoever.

Of course it's the airline. How could you confuse an unprofitable company like the beer with such a fantastically profitable airline?

You are either extremely funny, or have no idea of accounting...lol...I prefer to think that you are funny and saying things in opposite manner...;)

Perhaps this will explain:

CX is building its own program prior to dump One world
 

CX is doing very well and great financial reports.

However, it is promoting its own program Asia Miles.

Most economy tickets does not offer AA miles.

Asia Miles is a second tier program, almost useless for most people

Every airline in OW has its own programme (with the exception of BA and IB). This has always been the case, and it has always been common to have many restrictions on earning miles discount Y fares. Nothing new and nothing related to CX dumping OW.

BA and IB has Avios, similar to Asia Miles in terms of functionality.

Asia Miles has beeen there for ages. It was revolutionary as it is designed for members who only want to accumilate miles only no statues. SQ, MH and VN used to be a member as well.

You meant Passages, which was used by CX, SQ, and MH. Passages ceased to exist and AM was created when CX joined OW.

I hereby declare oneworld alliance dead!

When is this thread going to die?

Three years after Skyteam (loss of DL proved fatal), two years after Star Alliance (some members got too friendly with AF) and one year after oneworld (regulators made being the last alliance too difficult). Many threads outlast their topics.

FWIW, I think SkyTeam and Star Alliance would die after oneworld, not before.

Among the three alliances only one had experienced death so far (remember wing?)(I did not say the actual alliance had dead but being absorbed)

I see a better chance of star alliance being broke up into two more than OneWorld not surviving.

Passages was an alliance of sorts, albeit a tiny one.

SriLankan Airlines joining oneworld is a clear warning of the alliance's impending destruction.

From your posts I can only say that you are obviously an OneWorld hater.

Smaller carriers have been joining alliances and can be quite successful to both carrier and alliance. For example Finnair, no way near to be a big carrier. Then Aegean, and Royal Jordanian, not to mention Czech, S7, LOT, brusselles, are all small carriers with lesser quality. I am sure the on board service on UL would beat LOT or Czeck very easily. from your logic, why Aegean join falling star did not show the warning? Why MEA join sky trash did not show the warning?

lol, no. I'm trying to suggest better reasons that oneworld might die than the ones in the OP. I must say, it's not particularly difficult.
I don't forsee oneworld dying in the near future, and I certainly don't have any bad feelings towards it.
I agree that many of these carriers have been very successful in alliances. I fail to understand why this is relevant.
Because I haven't displayed any logic so far?
I see you're not a SkyTeam fan.

PVDtoDEL, as one fellow poster did remind you quite a few times in the AoI forum, you need to be both more levelheaded and more thoughtful when posting. Shooting trenchant replies regarding impending destruction without stating the reason, if there's one, smacks of an emotional reply and does add nothing worthwhile to a discussion. The induction of new members to an alliance, any alliance, is always a positive outcome no matter the circumstances and as such should be treated. Finally, I must say that the title of this thread is one of the more absurd I've seen in many years, OW is gonna survive as * and ST will, although clearly the years of rapid development are ended already for all three, and will likely never come back again, so each of the alliances will remain roughly the same size as now. I think what we may expect in future is substantial reshuffling of members, some will disappear due to circumstances (Malev, Spanair, Mexicana, and i'll add Czech, Austrian and SN Brussels in the medium period), some will switch (TAM very soon, but I'll add Thai, South African and perhaps the unlikely combo Air China/Cathay), and perhaps some may find appealing to disengage entirely from the big three and try forming new, more focussed alliances (alliances were born by instigation of the European powerhouses and with a definite Atlantic overtones, now Asia instead is becoming the centre of the aviation market, and I will not be surprised if, say, CA, CX, SQ, MH and AI will take the lead in forming a new alliance altogether)

As I said, comment was tongue in cheek. But point taken...

Just saw from jimyvr that BA is once again code-sharing with IT. Does that mean IT's situation has improved and it will get back on track in joining OW?

No. It just means that BA has developed some metal problems.

Quite literally. IT is in no shape to join an alliance right now.

Srilankan to oneworld makes alot of sense. It gives oneworld additional access to the indian market while still allowing them to easily bring in kingfisher in the event they survive.

OW isn't really in a hurry to get IT on board although it hasn't officially kick IT out of the member-elect category. I wouldn't say IT has improved but more like stabilized.

Once again you keep coming up with personal views but unable to back it up here and on a.net and Airliners-India, same with your posts on your own website. You keep saying "points taken" but you never learn, instead you only focus your time on being cheerleader for Air India. I understand you are still in high school, and "occupied with school work". But if you have that much time around to go all over the place saying whatever you want, you probably would've better off to spend those time to find figures to back your claim.

Eh? What figures do I need to back up that IT is in no shape to join an alliance right now?

Their OTP? Their RASM/CASM ratio? Their debtload? The date of their staff's last paycheck? The amount of time that they have been kicked out of IATA BSP? The number of times their accounts have been frozen by income tax authorities? The fact that nobody is willing to inject any cash into the airline? I can provide them all. Just tell me what info you want.

I still am at a loss as to how anybody can think IT's current operations are sustainable. IT will need investment from somebody. Vijay Mallya has proved that he isn't willing to put in any more cash. The banks have made it clear that they won't invest more money unless a promoter does first. Putting hopes on FDI is incredibly naive - no sane foreign investor is going to invest in the company when the current owners (banks and Vijay Mallya) aren't willing to.

If there is some detail that I have missed, by all means let me know. But from what I can see, in the current state IT is in, a) they aren't going to last, and b) they aren't in any shape to join an alliance. If by some miracle, they find an investor, then things might be different. But I doubt it.

If you are going to pretend you know everything at your age, prove it. Layout all the figures. This industry has seen lots of ups and downs but also seen some carriers managed to pull through despite it wasn't the size as it used to be.

I don't claim to know "everything" - but from what I do know, it doesn't seem likely that IT is going to last, much less join an alliance.

I have many of those figures (albeit slightly outdated) in writing from a person at Corp. Comm. at IT, who has since moved to a different job. Unfortunately, the email is in Hindi. But if you want, I'll forward you the email (and a translation). Just send me a PM with your email address..

Aviation is most definitely a volatile industry, where you can never say never. But logic still applies most of the time.

But does it warrant the use of exaggerative language?

Perhaps not. But the point remains the same - IT is not in any state to join an alliance.

BA has removed the filing in the OAG in the last two hours.

The point does not remain the same because the focus will shift to your exaggeration and biased view since you're AI-cheerleader.

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the update :)

I wonder what prompted them to file it in the first place...