LHR transit = extra continent?
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2011
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LHR transit = extra continent?
Hi there
I'm new to the site and hoping you can help me out with a problem I'm having with my OWE itinerary.
I'm currently Cape Town based so taking advantage of this and booking a OWE from here. I plan to visit Asia, SWP and Sth America before coming back to Cape Town. However, the only flights I can find from Sth America to Sth Africa go through LHR and this seems to be shifting me from LONE4 to LONE5. This is my only European stop so I am understandably keen to stick to a LONE4. Does anyone know anyway around this?
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
I'm new to the site and hoping you can help me out with a problem I'm having with my OWE itinerary.
I'm currently Cape Town based so taking advantage of this and booking a OWE from here. I plan to visit Asia, SWP and Sth America before coming back to Cape Town. However, the only flights I can find from Sth America to Sth Africa go through LHR and this seems to be shifting me from LONE4 to LONE5. This is my only European stop so I am understandably keen to stick to a LONE4. Does anyone know anyway around this?
Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
#2


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No. You transit - its counted.
Similarly flying QF/BA flights LHR-SYD/MEL are treated as touching Asia (even if a single plane service)
Can you fly JNB-SYD.
ie Africa-SWP-Asia-SthAmerica-Africa
Edit: My reading skills have obviously deteriorated.
Very surprised LAN does not fly to Africa.
(and neither does TAM)
Similarly flying QF/BA flights LHR-SYD/MEL are treated as touching Asia (even if a single plane service)
Can you fly JNB-SYD.
ie Africa-SWP-Asia-SthAmerica-Africa
Edit: My reading skills have obviously deteriorated.
Very surprised LAN does not fly to Africa.
(and neither does TAM)
Last edited by moa999; Dec 10, 2011 at 5:54 pm
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Look here Oneworld planner and here Mileage Monkey [unofficial site by a FTer]
No OW flight Sth America-Africa in my view (a missing link on OW)
No OW flight Sth America-Africa in my view (a missing link on OW)
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Dec 10, 2011 at 5:21 pm
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#5
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Any time you land in a continent, even if it is only a transit, it counts to the continents used. There are some rules that allow you to transit a continent and enter again for a visit later (eg, SWP-xASIA-EURO-NA-ASIA-SWP).
There is currently no way to get across the Atlantic to/from Africa on OneWorld without connecting through Europe. Thus most OW RTW ticket involving Africa will be a xONE5 or xONE6 (due to needing to connect in Europe) until such time as AA or LA start service to Africa or MH joins and retains their EZE flight. The only way to get it down to an LONE4 out of Africa would be to drop either Asia or SWP.
LONE4 (South Africa departure) 21800ZAR ++
LONE5 (South Africa departure) 25000ZAR ++
LONE4 (Germany departure) 28130ZAR ++
I would suggest finding a cheap flight to somewhere in Europe (say MAD or FRA) and starting the LONE4 from there while making use of a travel agent in Canada to pay the cheaper South African price.
There is currently no way to get across the Atlantic to/from Africa on OneWorld without connecting through Europe. Thus most OW RTW ticket involving Africa will be a xONE5 or xONE6 (due to needing to connect in Europe) until such time as AA or LA start service to Africa or MH joins and retains their EZE flight. The only way to get it down to an LONE4 out of Africa would be to drop either Asia or SWP.
LONE4 (South Africa departure) 21800ZAR ++
LONE5 (South Africa departure) 25000ZAR ++
LONE4 (Germany departure) 28130ZAR ++
I would suggest finding a cheap flight to somewhere in Europe (say MAD or FRA) and starting the LONE4 from there while making use of a travel agent in Canada to pay the cheaper South African price.
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The Canadian exception allows purchase, in Canada, of a ticket at the price of the country of origin, rather than at the (higher) Canadian price
It does not allow the purchase of a ticket originating in Europe at the Sth African price.
#7
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I think I may have confused myself with what I did earlier in the year (buying Korean origin DONE3 from Australia via Canadian travel agent).
#8
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Thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately it was what I feared so it's back to the drawing board.
I'm living in Cape Town currently so it will still be cheaper, and a lot less hassle for me, to go for a LONE5 ex South Africa. It's just not as cheap as it could have been if I could avoid (Europe is my home continent so have no desire to visit there on this trip).
I'm living in Cape Town currently so it will still be cheaper, and a lot less hassle for me, to go for a LONE5 ex South Africa. It's just not as cheap as it could have been if I could avoid (Europe is my home continent so have no desire to visit there on this trip).

