AA or Iberia in J??
#16


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I don't know, perhaps flights aren't full enough. Others here can probably answer this better than me. It appears to be fairly common. I have read threads on FT discussing this, not realizing it would affect us. IB wanted us to return 1 day later; due to our work schedule this was not a possibility.
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ed-iberia.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...+cancellations
Also there a lot more readers of the AA forum than this one who can offer their thoughts and feelings about IB and AA. FWIW, I find IB J to be just fine and in most situations to be superior to AA J, some people agree with me others do not. Will you like IB J? We don't know until you fly it.
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#19




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Look to the AA forum. There is lots of discussion about choosing AA or IB and a few threads about cancellations, see:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ed-iberia.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...+cancellations
Also there a lot more readers of the AA forum than this one who can offer their thoughts and feelings about IB and AA. FWIW, I find IB J to be just fine and in most situations to be superior to AA J, some people agree with me others do not. Will you like IB J? We don't know until you fly it.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ed-iberia.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...+cancellations
Also there a lot more readers of the AA forum than this one who can offer their thoughts and feelings about IB and AA. FWIW, I find IB J to be just fine and in most situations to be superior to AA J, some people agree with me others do not. Will you like IB J? We don't know until you fly it.
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What kind of nonsense is this about IB canceling it's TATL flights more than AA? Where are you getting this from?
Don't waste a cent on AA TATL... The seat is awful (neither the 757 nor the 767 are comfortable), the food meh, IFE pathetic. One thing is that onboard service is good... But so is IB. Dress/behave like a slob and any European service will seem 'snobby'.
I am an AA flyer but not in J internationally- not
to Europe or Asia.
Don't waste a cent on AA TATL... The seat is awful (neither the 757 nor the 767 are comfortable), the food meh, IFE pathetic. One thing is that onboard service is good... But so is IB. Dress/behave like a slob and any European service will seem 'snobby'.
I am an AA flyer but not in J internationally- not
to Europe or Asia.
#21


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In my case, I'd rather have slightly inferior seat/service and be able to return on the day you want. Can you imagine being on an overseas trip and getting to the airport to learn that your IB flight has been canceled and you've been put on the flight the next day? In all my intl AA flights, this has never happened, and I've travelled alot overseas on AA. This happened on my first scheduled IB flight. Coincidence? If you read the horror stories from other IB passengers, it appears this was not an isolated instance. For me, a slightly better seat is not worth the risk.
What kind of nonsense is this about IB canceling it's TATL flights more than AA? Where are you getting this from?
Don't waste a cent on AA TATL... The seat is awful (neither the 757 nor the 767 are comfortable), the food meh, IFE pathetic. One thing is that onboard service is good... But so is IB. Dress/behave like a slob and any European service will seem 'snobby'.
I am an AA flyer but not in J internationally- not
to Europe or Asia.
Don't waste a cent on AA TATL... The seat is awful (neither the 757 nor the 767 are comfortable), the food meh, IFE pathetic. One thing is that onboard service is good... But so is IB. Dress/behave like a slob and any European service will seem 'snobby'.
I am an AA flyer but not in J internationally- not
to Europe or Asia.
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Absolutely IB. Better seat, food, IFE, wines. Never had an arrogant FA in my 10+ or so transatlantics with them, although many have been less than charming.
As far as cancellations goes, this is news to me, and none of the posters provided any data. So I looked it up on FlightStats, which has the last two months data:
JFK-MAD: AA scheduled 61 flights, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 114 flights, cancelled NONE; DL scheduled 58 flights, cancelled 1.
MIA-MAD: AA scheduled 83 flghts, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 57 flights, cancelled NONE
ORD-MAD: IB scheduled 60 flights, cancelled NONE.
LAX-MAD: IB scheduled 21 flights, cancelled NONE.
IB was the only airline which cancelled NO flights. So one more reason for IB in my book.
As far as cancellations goes, this is news to me, and none of the posters provided any data. So I looked it up on FlightStats, which has the last two months data:
JFK-MAD: AA scheduled 61 flights, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 114 flights, cancelled NONE; DL scheduled 58 flights, cancelled 1.
MIA-MAD: AA scheduled 83 flghts, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 57 flights, cancelled NONE
ORD-MAD: IB scheduled 60 flights, cancelled NONE.
LAX-MAD: IB scheduled 21 flights, cancelled NONE.
IB was the only airline which cancelled NO flights. So one more reason for IB in my book.
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We're not talking about day of flight cancellations (that's the reason you see no IB cancellations), but rather cancellations several days to weeks prior to departure, when IB decides for whatever reason (in most cases, probably low flight load) it will not fly on a particular day. It's up to the individual whether they want to take this risk.
Absolutely IB. Better seat, food, IFE, wines. Never had an arrogant FA in my 10+ or so transatlantics with them, although many have been less than charming.
As far as cancellations goes, this is news to me, and none of the posters provided any data. So I looked it up on FlightStats, which has the last two months data:
JFK-MAD: AA scheduled 61 flights, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 114 flights, cancelled NONE; DL scheduled 58 flights, cancelled 1.
MIA-MAD: AA scheduled 83 flghts, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 57 flights, cancelled NONE
ORD-MAD: IB scheduled 60 flights, cancelled NONE.
LAX-MAD: IB scheduled 21 flights, cancelled NONE.
IB was the only airline which cancelled NO flights. So one more reason for IB in my book.
As far as cancellations goes, this is news to me, and none of the posters provided any data. So I looked it up on FlightStats, which has the last two months data:
JFK-MAD: AA scheduled 61 flights, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 114 flights, cancelled NONE; DL scheduled 58 flights, cancelled 1.
MIA-MAD: AA scheduled 83 flghts, cancelled 1; IB scheduled 57 flights, cancelled NONE
ORD-MAD: IB scheduled 60 flights, cancelled NONE.
LAX-MAD: IB scheduled 21 flights, cancelled NONE.
IB was the only airline which cancelled NO flights. So one more reason for IB in my book.
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We're not talking about day of flight cancellations (that's the reason you see no IB cancellations), but rather cancellations several days to weeks prior to departure, when IB decides for whatever reason (in most cases, probably low flight load) it will not fly on a particular day. It's up to the individual whether they want to take this risk.
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Biz class twice on each between JFK and BCN/MAD and I prefer AA. Food was better on AA, wine better on IB, entertainment better on AA, seats for sleeping were equal (I sleep on my back on a firm mattress regularly), seat organization when eating and not sleeping, IB felt like it provided more room, on board staff more preferential to European travelers than Yanks (but maybe it was me). Missed connecton in MAD by two minutes was treated very poorly by very indifferent IB reconnection staff. In fact, without getting political and mindful of complaints on the AA boards, IB indifference by its staff of customers was very indicative of the problems being experienced in the Euro-zone.
I'm flying from JFK --> AMS on AA to LHR and BA to AMS in February and I intentionally avoided any flights through MAD or on IB in my selection process.
I'm flying from JFK --> AMS on AA to LHR and BA to AMS in February and I intentionally avoided any flights through MAD or on IB in my selection process.



