Route Check/Advice and Booking Tips
#1
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Hi Guys,
A while since I did a RTW. I am loooking to book a DONE5 originating in ACC.
Is the following allowable (mileage monkey says ok and I have no reason to doubt but worth a cross check):
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-BME-BNE-SYD-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-HEL-LIS-LHR-ACC
Do I have to end in ACC or can I end somewhere else in Africa?
If I understand correctly I can call the AA desk to ticket it and then have it issued in Canada - is that right? Was there someone people were recommending - I seem to remember there being a thread with someone reliable and understanding doing it for a $50 or $100 fee.
As always thanks for help!!
A while since I did a RTW. I am loooking to book a DONE5 originating in ACC.
Is the following allowable (mileage monkey says ok and I have no reason to doubt but worth a cross check):
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-BME-BNE-SYD-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-HEL-LIS-LHR-ACC
Do I have to end in ACC or can I end somewhere else in Africa?
If I understand correctly I can call the AA desk to ticket it and then have it issued in Canada - is that right? Was there someone people were recommending - I seem to remember there being a thread with someone reliable and understanding doing it for a $50 or $100 fee.
As always thanks for help!!
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Hi Guys,
A while since I did a RTW. I am loooking to book a DONE5 originating in ACC.
Is the following allowable (mileage monkey says ok and I have no reason to doubt but worth a cross check):
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-BME-BNE-SYD-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-HEL-LIS-LHR-ACC
Do I have to end in ACC or can I end somewhere else in Africa?
If I understand correctly I can call the AA desk to ticket it and then have it issued in Canada - is that right? Was there someone people were recommending - I seem to remember there being a thread with someone reliable and understanding doing it for a $50 or $100 fee.
As always thanks for help!!
A while since I did a RTW. I am loooking to book a DONE5 originating in ACC.
Is the following allowable (mileage monkey says ok and I have no reason to doubt but worth a cross check):
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-BME-BNE-SYD-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-HEL-LIS-LHR-ACC
Do I have to end in ACC or can I end somewhere else in Africa?
If I understand correctly I can call the AA desk to ticket it and then have it issued in Canada - is that right? Was there someone people were recommending - I seem to remember there being a thread with someone reliable and understanding doing it for a $50 or $100 fee.
As always thanks for help!!
If you start in one of the cul-de-sac countries (Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda) and simply transit Europe at the beginning, you can end anywhere in Africa - JNB, CPT, NBO... following your European segments.
Yes, you can have it ticketed in Canada. There are several threads recounting how people accomplished this - from TAs who did it for a fee, also just by turning up at an AA counter (or BA presumably) in Canada (I recall YVR) and consummating the sale there. That's the key - where is the transaction completed. If your intent is to have AA issue it, presumably to avoid fuel surcharges, as opposed to just doing it using the online tool, I'd price it online as well as seeing what the AA RTW rates people come up with - you might find that the difference is negligible. Or not - it's somewhat mysterious these days.
The first pass through London has to be a transit to a third continent, as with your proposed route.
Edited to add: HEL-LIS? I can't seem to find that in the OW timetable, but maybe I'm missing it. I seem to remember that AY operates some charter-type flights that may or may not be eligible for use with xONE products. Double-check this.
Last edited by Gardyloo; Sep 7, 2011 at 8:57 am
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It is a seasonal route, this year from April 18 to October 29. And yes, it is one of those charter-type flights.
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Thanks for the great advice and darn it on the HEL-LIS route I needed it for November. LIS was the only new country on the itin. Will have to rethink that segment.
I definitely like the option of ending anywhere i africa as it sets me perfectly for another DONEX next year originaitng JNB. So latest plan is :
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-LIS-LHR-MAD-JNB
This is off topic and I can post somewhere else but does anyone know if the YYZ-MIA-LHR is considered a DI transfer or an II transfer for MCT in MIA, reason being is that the best option there has me on ground for 60mins in MIA which is OK for a DI but not II according to KVS. As you clear US immigration in YYZ I am hoping this make YYZ-MIA a "domestic" flight.
I definitely like the option of ending anywhere i africa as it sets me perfectly for another DONEX next year originaitng JNB. So latest plan is :
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-LIS-LHR-MAD-JNB
This is off topic and I can post somewhere else but does anyone know if the YYZ-MIA-LHR is considered a DI transfer or an II transfer for MCT in MIA, reason being is that the best option there has me on ground for 60mins in MIA which is OK for a DI but not II according to KVS. As you clear US immigration in YYZ I am hoping this make YYZ-MIA a "domestic" flight.
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This is off topic and I can post somewhere else but does anyone know if the YYZ-MIA-LHR is considered a DI transfer or an II transfer for MCT in MIA, reason being is that the best option there has me on ground for 60mins in MIA which is OK for a DI but not II according to KVS. As you clear US immigration in YYZ I am hoping this make YYZ-MIA a "domestic" flight.
[KVS Availability Tool 6.5.1/Diamond - Amadeus Operational Info: AA 1409/01 Dec 2011]
Code:
AMERICAN AIRLINES - AA 1409 [Planned Flight Info] YYZ-MIA 06:10/Thu - 09:45/Thu 03:35 [Flight Notes] YYZ-MIA MEMBER OF ONEWORLD YYZ-MIA DEPARTS TERMINAL 3 YYZ-MIA MCT FLIGHT TRACKING I/D YYZ-MIA 4/ AUDIO PROGRAMMING YYZ-MIA 9/ NON-SMOKING YYZ-MIA 10/ SHORT FEATURE VIDEO YYZ-MIA 12/ IN-SEAT POWER SOURCE YYZ-MIA SECURED FLIGHT YYZ-MIA ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
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Q. Does Cabotage apply to a wide international booking containing countries other then just USA/Canada?
I may be wrong but I thought no.
I may be wrong but I thought no.
#9
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Urgent question - I just had the itinerary priced and it came back at $9136.00USD plus taxes but the fare I was expecting was $8100 (per the oneworld booking tool)
I told the RTW agent I wanted to have it ticketed in Canada - shouldn't it be the same price in Canada as if I was ticketing in Ghana?
I told the RTW agent I wanted to have it ticketed in Canada - shouldn't it be the same price in Canada as if I was ticketing in Ghana?
#10
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Urgent question - I just had the itinerary priced and it came back at $9136.00USD plus taxes but the fare I was expecting was $8100 (per the oneworld booking tool)
I told the RTW agent I wanted to have it ticketed in Canada - shouldn't it be the same price in Canada as if I was ticketing in Ghana?
I told the RTW agent I wanted to have it ticketed in Canada - shouldn't it be the same price in Canada as if I was ticketing in Ghana?
#11
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Hi Gardyloo,
Thanks for response.
My routing hasn't changed a lot from above but is now:
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-LAX-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-MAD-LIS-LHR-JNB
I called the RTW desk guy back and he agreed the price seemed wrong he put a note in the system for pricing to correct it - hopefully they agree with him.
As a side note does anyone have a suggestion on an alternative for the YYZ-MIA-LHR (schedule change on YYZ-MIA has kyboshed what was a perfect MCT). It needs to be a Friday afternoon out of YYZ and connection to LHR using AA metal so I can utilise an EVIP
. The LHR-MAD sector departs at 11:05 T3 on Saturday so it all needs to make that connection - of course max miles alway helpful
.
Thanks for response.
My routing hasn't changed a lot from above but is now:
ACC-xLHR-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-LAX-DFW-YVR-JFK-YYZ-MIA-LHR-MAD-LIS-LHR-JNB
I called the RTW desk guy back and he agreed the price seemed wrong he put a note in the system for pricing to correct it - hopefully they agree with him.
As a side note does anyone have a suggestion on an alternative for the YYZ-MIA-LHR (schedule change on YYZ-MIA has kyboshed what was a perfect MCT). It needs to be a Friday afternoon out of YYZ and connection to LHR using AA metal so I can utilise an EVIP
. The LHR-MAD sector departs at 11:05 T3 on Saturday so it all needs to make that connection - of course max miles alway helpful
.
Last edited by paul4471; Sep 11, 2011 at 7:51 pm

