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Trying to plan one now, using the online tool to price so that I can try changing cities and flights to see the effect on the "taxes." If I end in TLV, the tool won't price it ("We are unable to offer you our lowest fare...."). If I end in KRT, it prices at $7,736 base plus $2,212 in "taxes"! Why the $7,736 base?
Routing KRT-AMN-LHR-LAX-JFK-HKG-TPE-HKG-SYD-AKL-SYD-LHR-AMN-KRT, the "taxes" include:
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The YR and Airline fuel surcharges are both fuel surcharges charged by airlines. Try putting your LHR-LAX on an AA codeshare and HKG-SYD on CX. You basicaly want to avoid QF and BA code where possible.
SDEM is the Sudanese tax. It appears to be based on the cost of the fare. Given your fare appears to be pricing high, this should come down when priced correctly. It will still be several hundred dollars. UK PSC is unavoidable if you stop in the UK. Given that you say you aren't, that should drop off when properly validated but double check that you haven't got a stop over 24 hours in there. The Australian charges are the same. Best way to get those down is to eliminate a departure from Australia as they run about $80 a pop. HKG-AKL-SYD may work for you. |
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 19582852)
Why the $7,736 base?
Expert Flyer shows the most expensive ex-KRT xONEx as 5995USD for an AONE6. |
Originally Posted by uproared
(Post 19579301)
Hmmm...It appears that because Sudan is on DFAT's (Australia) "Do not travel" list my insurance will not cover me there anyway. Makes missed connections/delays, etc. a bit risky.
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Originally Posted by *A Flyer
(Post 19582890)
SDEM is the Sudanese tax. It appears to be based on the cost of the fare.
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Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 19582963)
Does it go away if I use the Canada exception and buy my ex-KRT ticket in Canada?
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Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 19582891)
Tool bug.
Expert Flyer shows the most expensive ex-KRT xONEx as 5995USD for an AONE6. KRT-AMN-LHR-SYD-SIN-NRT-HKG-JFK-YVR-DFW-LAX-LHR-AMN-KRT prices at $3,868.00 base plus $1,567.08 "taxes" = $5,435.08. "Taxes":
Still no stop in LHR, yet a UK PSC. |
Originally Posted by *A Flyer
(Post 19582890)
The YR and Airline fuel surcharges are both fuel surcharges charged by airlines. Try putting your LHR-LAX on an AA codeshare and HKG-SYD on CX. You basicaly want to avoid QF and BA code where possible.
With almost $800 in fuel and similar mysterious charges, it would be good to figure out a way to lower them.
Originally Posted by *A Flyer
(Post 19582890)
SDEM is the Sudanese tax. It appears to be based on the cost of the fare. Given your fare appears to be pricing high, this should come down when priced correctly. It will still be several hundred dollars.
Originally Posted by *A Flyer
(Post 19582890)
UK PSC is unavoidable if you stop in the UK. Given that you say you aren't, that should drop off when properly validated but double check that you haven't got a stop over 24 hours in there.
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For the UK PSC, have you created your itinerary by searching AMM-LHR, LHR-SYD, LAX-LHR and LHR-AMM separately or as AMM-SYD and LAX-AMM. If the former, there could be a bug which is counting LHR as a stop and trying to charge the PSC.
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Originally Posted by onobond
(Post 19575914)
Reading about other FT:ers having problems starting the XONEX in ME and finishing in another ME destination, which IS allowed, I found myself there as well. Calling AA RTW desk solved it all. TLV, DOH, MCT all coming in
*Europe-Middle East (Including Algeria, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, Morocco Russia both east Does this mean Russia is considered Middle East and I can end there, or does it just mean Russia is part of Europe?and west of the Urals, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan) |
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 19583040)
That is how they were booked.
With almost $800 in fuel and similar mysterious charges, it would be good to figure out a way to lower them. On a separate note, I'd suggest that some of the Multiple Surcharges is actually the Australian charges which will be about $80 as they don't appear elsewhere. |
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 19583077)
What else is allowed? The rule sheet says
*Europe-Middle East (Including Algeria, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, Morocco Russia both east Does this mean Russia is considered Middle East and I can end there, or does it just mean Russia is part of Europe?and west of the Urals, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan) |
Originally Posted by *A Flyer
(Post 19583015)
No. It is an embarkation tax.
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 19583077)
What else is allowed? The rule sheet says
*Europe-Middle East (Including Algeria, Egypt, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Libya, Morocco Russia both east and west of the Urals, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan) Does this mean Russia is considered Middle East and I can end there, or does it just mean Russia is part of Europe?For 'completeness' the rule sheets lists a bunch of countries that are usually not considered part of either Europe or the Middle East (but in reality are part of Africa): Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia The individual countries in the Middle East (Jordan, Oman etc) and in Europe (UK, France etc) are not listed In this regard, I have always been a little surprised that the Middle East exception to the starting-ending point allows itineraries to start from Sudan and end elsewhere (in the Middle East). To my mind Sudan is not in the Middle East |
Regarding the booking of RTWs...
I understand that all travel needs to be completed within 330 days (?) of the trip's commencement. If I'm planning to start a RTW in 10 months, I can't book flights using the online tool for greater than 365 days (?) from today. So... how do I do it? Also, once ticketed, what are the penalties, etc. and implications associated with a date change? Either before or after the first leg is flown? Thanks! |
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