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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 11:13 am
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Current RTW and Circle Pacific Fares

I swear I have searched tons of combinations...and yet someone will post the exact link in seconds to which I will humbly apologize, but does anyone have the most recent fare tables for RTW and Circle Pacific ex-US?
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 11:34 am
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They have disappeared.
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 12:30 pm
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Yep, in its wisdom OW has pulled the fare tables from the various products on its site. If you have an Expert Flyer subscription you can pull them up there. Not much has changed in terms of price leaders etc., but you're not going to find it easily absent some mechanism like EF or access to a GDS.

In the meantime people here on FT are very cooperative in helping with fare inquiries, if you know what I mean.
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 1:21 pm
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They have disappeared.
Ah, oh. What's up with that? You think this is temporary while they update tables or something? Why wouldn't OW want pax to have as much info as possible -- unless they are annoyed at people exploiting currency variations, etc.
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Old Apr 1, 2011 | 1:51 pm
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Originally Posted by MiamiPrep
Ah, oh. What's up with that? You think this is temporary while they update tables or something? Why wouldn't OW want pax to have as much info as possible -- unless they are annoyed at people exploiting currency variations, etc.
Some discussion and OneWorld's response to one FTer can be found here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ows-fares.html
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Originally Posted by gwade
I swear I have searched tons of combinations...and yet someone will post the exact link in seconds to which I will humbly apologize, but does anyone have the most recent fare tables for RTW and Circle Pacific ex-US?
There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
TUE  01 Nov 2011 | TUE  15 Nov 2011 | RTW | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA         NYC     NYC      3500   USD                      LCIRAT17
BA         NYC     NYC      3699   USD                      LONE3
BA         NYC     NYC      3799   USD                      LGLOB26
BA         NYC     NYC      4000   USD                      LCIRAT21
BA         NYC     NYC      4500   USD                      LCIR22
BA         NYC     NYC      4600   USD                      LCIRAT25
BA         NYC     NYC      5299   USD                      LONE4
BA         NYC     NYC      5399   USD                      LGLOB29
BA         NYC     NYC      5400   USD                      LCIR26
BA         NYC     NYC      5900   USD                      LCIR29SA
BA         NYC     NYC      6099   USD                      LONE5
BA         NYC     NYC      6199   USD                      LGLOB34
BA         NYC     NYC      7099   USD                      LONE6
BA         NYC     NYC      7199   USD                      LGLOB39
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
TUE  01 Nov 2011 | TUE  15 Nov 2011 | RTW | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA         NYC     NYC      8200   USD                      DCIRAT17
BA         NYC     NYC      8600   USD                      DCIRAT21
BA         NYC     NYC      9300   USD                      DCIR22
BA         NYC     NYC      9900   USD                      DCIRAT25
BA         NYC     NYC     10199   USD                      DONE3
BA         NYC     NYC     10799   USD                      DONE4
BA         NYC     NYC     10899   USD                      DGLOB34
BA         NYC     NYC     11200   USD                      DCIR26
BA         NYC     NYC     12299   USD                      DONE5
BA         NYC     NYC     12300   USD                      DCIR29SA
BA         NYC     NYC     14099   USD                      DONE6
[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
TUE  01 Nov 2011 | TUE  15 Nov 2011 | RTW | First

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA         NYC     NYC     11000   USD                      ACIRAT17
BA         NYC     NYC     11900   USD                      ACIRAT21
BA         NYC     NYC     12700   USD                      ACIR22
BA         NYC     NYC     13700   USD                      ACIRAT25
BA         NYC     NYC     13799   USD                      AONE3
BA         NYC     NYC     14899   USD                      AONE4
BA         NYC     NYC     14999   USD                      AGLOB34
BA         NYC     NYC     15200   USD                      ACIR26
BA         NYC     NYC     16000   USD                      ACIR29SA
BA         NYC     NYC     17099   USD                      AONE5
BA         NYC     NYC     19899   USD                      AONE6
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There used to be a really good excel doc that showed all of the fares for different countries. I've seen the one from ~2007, but there was also one updated in October 2010 if I remember correctly. I haven't been able to find it, searched a bunch as well.
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Old Apr 4, 2011 | 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by BrewerSEA
There used to be a really good excel doc that showed all of the fares for different countries. I've seen the one from ~2007, but there was also one updated in October 2010 if I remember correctly. I haven't been able to find it, searched a bunch as well.
It's around somewhere, there should be a link to it in a thread on this forum. Though my understanding is that it took the data from the price tables on the OW website. As those tables are no longer there...
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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...readsheet.html
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Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
Yep, in its wisdom OW has pulled the fare tables from the various products on its site. If you have an Expert Flyer subscription you can pull them up there. Not much has changed in terms of price leaders etc., but you're not going to find it easily absent some mechanism like EF or access to a GDS.

In the meantime people here on FT are very cooperative in helping with fare inquiries, if you know what I mean.
We've been relying on the spreadsheet (linked above) to determine the starting continent/country for our annual RTW. Now that it no longer can update, because OW has removed the fares, I'm trying to figure out an alternative. I have an EF subscription, so I can do manual queries to get the DONEx fares from any starting point, but it's starting point by starting point, which gets tedious after a few, and relies on trying to think of them all.
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Old May 6, 2011 | 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by anabolism
We've been relying on the spreadsheet (linked above) to determine the starting continent/country for our annual RTW. Now that it no longer can update, because OW has removed the fares, I'm trying to figure out an alternative. I have an EF subscription, so I can do manual queries to get the DONEx fares from any starting point, but it's starting point by starting point, which gets tedious after a few, and relies on trying to think of them all.
Yep, it's a major pain.

One thing worth noting is that all the Euro-denominated fares are identical, so searching for one Euro-zone nation does for all;

All of South America, ditto;

US/Caribbean, ditto.

That leaves a pretty long list, to be sure, but one can look at past "leaders" such as South Africa, Israel/Jordan, etc. Otherwise I don't know an easy work-around short of EF or KVS pulling together some sort of method to summarize.
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
Yep, it's a major pain.

One thing worth noting is that all the Euro-denominated fares are identical, so searching for one Euro-zone nation does for all;

All of South America, ditto;

US/Caribbean, ditto.

That leaves a pretty long list, to be sure, but one can look at past "leaders" such as South Africa, Israel/Jordan, etc. Otherwise I don't know an easy work-around short of EF or KVS pulling together some sort of method to summarize.
I assumed all Euro-currency countries would be the same, good to have that confirmed.

Playing around now, it looks like South Africa remains an excellent starting point at ~$7k for a DONE4, versus ~$8k for a DONE3 with a Euro country or NRT start. So, for less money you get an extra continent (which is good because you need an extra one if you weren't originally going to Africa).
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Old May 6, 2011 | 7:42 pm
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Originally Posted by anabolism
I assumed all Euro-currency countries would be the same, good to have that confirmed.

Playing around now, it looks like South Africa remains an excellent starting point at ~$7k for a DONE4, versus ~$8k for a DONE3 with a Euro country or NRT start. So, for less money you get an extra continent (which is good because you need an extra one if you weren't originally going to Africa).
In USD, a DONE3 in Israel is $6200 and a DONE4 is $7200; prices ex-Jordan are a few dollars less - vs. $7272 for a DONE4 ex-South Africa. Positioning costs should be considerably lower for TLV or AMM for most travelers.
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Old May 7, 2011 | 5:07 am
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As mentioned by Gardyloo, generally for RTW fares historically the best fares have been from S Africa and ME. AMM is the easiest to get to for the price. Sudan (KRT) is cheaper, but not as easy to get to. UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) would be nice starting points but they are much higher fares so that is not an option. JMHO

CirPac fares are best out of HKG.

If there are changes in fares you will hear about them hear first. So until otherwise reported here on FT, I would set up EF Saved Queries for HKG, JNB and AMM. You could do the same for KRT and TLV too if you prefer.

Depending on where you want to travel, the CirPacs are a real deal ex-HKG. DCIR22 at $4997 is a great deal and so is ACIR22 at $7135. Needless to say CirPacs are limited to East Asia, SWP and North America (excluding Caribbean).

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