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gwade Apr 1, 2011 11:13 am

Current RTW and Circle Pacific Fares
 
I swear I have searched tons of combinations...and yet someone will post the exact link in seconds to which I will humbly apologize, but does anyone have the most recent fare tables for RTW and Circle Pacific ex-US?

david_33 Apr 1, 2011 11:34 am

They have disappeared.

Gardyloo Apr 1, 2011 12:30 pm

Yep, in its wisdom OW has pulled the fare tables from the various products on its site. If you have an Expert Flyer subscription you can pull them up there. Not much has changed in terms of price leaders etc., but you're not going to find it easily absent some mechanism like EF or access to a GDS.

In the meantime people here on FT are very cooperative in helping with fare inquiries, if you know what I mean.

MiamiPrep Apr 1, 2011 1:21 pm

OW Planner Fares Gone
 

Originally Posted by david_33 (Post 16142260)
They have disappeared.

Ah, oh. What's up with that? You think this is temporary while they update tables or something? Why wouldn't OW want pax to have as much info as possible -- unless they are annoyed at people exploiting currency variations, etc.

jerry a. laska Apr 1, 2011 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by MiamiPrep (Post 16143019)
Ah, oh. What's up with that? You think this is temporary while they update tables or something? Why wouldn't OW want pax to have as much info as possible -- unless they are annoyed at people exploiting currency variations, etc.

Some discussion and OneWorld's response to one FTer can be found here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ows-fares.html

KVS Apr 1, 2011 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by gwade (Post 16142123)
I swear I have searched tons of combinations...and yet someone will post the exact link in seconds to which I will humbly apologize, but does anyone have the most recent fare tables for RTW and Circle Pacific ex-US?

There you go:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
TUE  01 Nov 2011 | TUE  15 Nov 2011 | RTW | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        NYC    NYC      3500  USD                      LCIRAT17
BA        NYC    NYC      3699  USD                      LONE3
BA        NYC    NYC      3799  USD                      LGLOB26
BA        NYC    NYC      4000  USD                      LCIRAT21
BA        NYC    NYC      4500  USD                      LCIR22
BA        NYC    NYC      4600  USD                      LCIRAT25
BA        NYC    NYC      5299  USD                      LONE4
BA        NYC    NYC      5399  USD                      LGLOB29
BA        NYC    NYC      5400  USD                      LCIR26
BA        NYC    NYC      5900  USD                      LCIR29SA
BA        NYC    NYC      6099  USD                      LONE5
BA        NYC    NYC      6199  USD                      LGLOB34
BA        NYC    NYC      7099  USD                      LONE6
BA        NYC    NYC      7199  USD                      LGLOB39

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
TUE  01 Nov 2011 | TUE  15 Nov 2011 | RTW | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        NYC    NYC      8200  USD                      DCIRAT17
BA        NYC    NYC      8600  USD                      DCIRAT21
BA        NYC    NYC      9300  USD                      DCIR22
BA        NYC    NYC      9900  USD                      DCIRAT25
BA        NYC    NYC    10199  USD                      DONE3
BA        NYC    NYC    10799  USD                      DONE4
BA        NYC    NYC    10899  USD                      DGLOB34
BA        NYC    NYC    11200  USD                      DCIR26
BA        NYC    NYC    12299  USD                      DONE5
BA        NYC    NYC    12300  USD                      DCIR29SA
BA        NYC    NYC    14099  USD                      DONE6

[KVS Availability Tool 6.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
TUE  01 Nov 2011 | TUE  15 Nov 2011 | RTW | First

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA        NYC    NYC    11000  USD                      ACIRAT17
BA        NYC    NYC    11900  USD                      ACIRAT21
BA        NYC    NYC    12700  USD                      ACIR22
BA        NYC    NYC    13700  USD                      ACIRAT25
BA        NYC    NYC    13799  USD                      AONE3
BA        NYC    NYC    14899  USD                      AONE4
BA        NYC    NYC    14999  USD                      AGLOB34
BA        NYC    NYC    15200  USD                      ACIR26
BA        NYC    NYC    16000  USD                      ACIR29SA
BA        NYC    NYC    17099  USD                      AONE5
BA        NYC    NYC    19899  USD                      AONE6


BrewerSEA Apr 4, 2011 4:01 am

There used to be a really good excel doc that showed all of the fares for different countries. I've seen the one from ~2007, but there was also one updated in October 2010 if I remember correctly. I haven't been able to find it, searched a bunch as well.

Himeno Apr 4, 2011 4:53 am


Originally Posted by BrewerSEA (Post 16155766)
There used to be a really good excel doc that showed all of the fares for different countries. I've seen the one from ~2007, but there was also one updated in October 2010 if I remember correctly. I haven't been able to find it, searched a bunch as well.

It's around somewhere, there should be a link to it in a thread on this forum. Though my understanding is that it took the data from the price tables on the OW website. As those tables are no longer there...

aaupgrade Apr 4, 2011 7:46 am

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...readsheet.html

BrewerSEA Apr 4, 2011 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by aaupgrade (Post 16156501)

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

anabolism May 6, 2011 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 16142612)
Yep, in its wisdom OW has pulled the fare tables from the various products on its site. If you have an Expert Flyer subscription you can pull them up there. Not much has changed in terms of price leaders etc., but you're not going to find it easily absent some mechanism like EF or access to a GDS.

In the meantime people here on FT are very cooperative in helping with fare inquiries, if you know what I mean.


Originally Posted by aaupgrade (Post 16156501)

We've been relying on the spreadsheet (linked above) to determine the starting continent/country for our annual RTW. Now that it no longer can update, because OW has removed the fares, I'm trying to figure out an alternative. I have an EF subscription, so I can do manual queries to get the DONEx fares from any starting point, but it's starting point by starting point, which gets tedious after a few, and relies on trying to think of them all.

Gardyloo May 6, 2011 4:01 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 16340639)
We've been relying on the spreadsheet (linked above) to determine the starting continent/country for our annual RTW. Now that it no longer can update, because OW has removed the fares, I'm trying to figure out an alternative. I have an EF subscription, so I can do manual queries to get the DONEx fares from any starting point, but it's starting point by starting point, which gets tedious after a few, and relies on trying to think of them all.

Yep, it's a major pain.

One thing worth noting is that all the Euro-denominated fares are identical, so searching for one Euro-zone nation does for all;

All of South America, ditto;

US/Caribbean, ditto.

That leaves a pretty long list, to be sure, but one can look at past "leaders" such as South Africa, Israel/Jordan, etc. Otherwise I don't know an easy work-around short of EF or KVS pulling together some sort of method to summarize.

anabolism May 6, 2011 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 16341012)
Yep, it's a major pain.

One thing worth noting is that all the Euro-denominated fares are identical, so searching for one Euro-zone nation does for all;

All of South America, ditto;

US/Caribbean, ditto.

That leaves a pretty long list, to be sure, but one can look at past "leaders" such as South Africa, Israel/Jordan, etc. Otherwise I don't know an easy work-around short of EF or KVS pulling together some sort of method to summarize.

I assumed all Euro-currency countries would be the same, good to have that confirmed.

Playing around now, it looks like South Africa remains an excellent starting point at ~$7k for a DONE4, versus ~$8k for a DONE3 with a Euro country or NRT start. So, for less money you get an extra continent (which is good because you need an extra one if you weren't originally going to Africa).

Gardyloo May 6, 2011 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 16341357)
I assumed all Euro-currency countries would be the same, good to have that confirmed.

Playing around now, it looks like South Africa remains an excellent starting point at ~$7k for a DONE4, versus ~$8k for a DONE3 with a Euro country or NRT start. So, for less money you get an extra continent (which is good because you need an extra one if you weren't originally going to Africa).

In USD, a DONE3 in Israel is $6200 and a DONE4 is $7200; prices ex-Jordan are a few dollars less - vs. $7272 for a DONE4 ex-South Africa. Positioning costs should be considerably lower for TLV or AMM for most travelers.

aaupgrade May 7, 2011 5:07 am

As mentioned by Gardyloo, generally for RTW fares historically the best fares have been from S Africa and ME. AMM is the easiest to get to for the price. Sudan (KRT) is cheaper, but not as easy to get to. UAE (Dubai, Abu Dhabi) would be nice starting points but they are much higher fares so that is not an option. JMHO

CirPac fares are best out of HKG.

If there are changes in fares you will hear about them hear first. So until otherwise reported here on FT, I would set up EF Saved Queries for HKG, JNB and AMM. You could do the same for KRT and TLV too if you prefer.

Depending on where you want to travel, the CirPacs are a real deal ex-HKG. DCIR22 at $4997 is a great deal and so is ACIR22 at $7135. Needless to say CirPacs are limited to East Asia, SWP and North America (excluding Caribbean).


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