One World is running low on options
#76



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Sorry if this has been mentioned, but MH is slightly better picking at the moment since Garuda Indonesia is in the process of joining Skyteam. Not impossible that MH would join as well, but it would be nice if OW could make a move. Maybe some of AA's $1bn+ kicking around...?
#77


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Hainan I would think as a very good possibility - there was a rumour ( way back before the whole JL/Skyteam distraction ) that JL wanted to sponsor them into Oneworld .
#78



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Air Berlin would indeed be a nice addition. Since Deutsche BA used to be an oneworld affilate, it is not a bad idea to get it back. Hainan would be nice, but, given their presence in HKG by controlling Hongkong Airlines and Hongkong Express, I doubt that Cathay would be happy about it.
#79
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Air Berlin would indeed be a nice addition. Since Deutsche BA used to be an oneworld affilate, it is not a bad idea to get it back. Hainan would be nice, but, given their presence in HKG by controlling Hongkong Airlines and Hongkong Express, I doubt that Cathay would be happy about it.
#80



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There was also a rumor at one point that Hainan was going to start service BOS-PEK or PVG (which would be the only service from BOS to Asia). It was reported in the paper but never materialized. Now that would be a nice addition to OW.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...gan_and_china/
(clearly this never happened)
http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...gan_and_china/
(clearly this never happened)
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#81
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Anytime that CX wants to add BOS-HKG service, that's fine with me.
#82



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Sorry if this has been mentioned, but MH is slightly better picking at the moment since Garuda Indonesia is in the process of joining Skyteam. Not impossible that MH would join as well, but it would be nice if OW could make a move. Maybe some of AA's $1bn+ kicking around...?
For what it's worth i.e. probably not too much, Wikipedia currently lists as possibles only:
- China Eastern (and thus Shanghai Airlines)
- Grand China Air
- Jet Airways
- Kingfisher Airways
- Westjet (!)
#83
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As an option for SE Asia, MH would be a fantastic addition.
For what it's worth i.e. probably not too much, Wikipedia currently lists as possibles only:
- China Eastern (and thus Shanghai Airlines)
- Grand China Air
- Jet Airways
- Kingfisher Airways
- Westjet (!)
For what it's worth i.e. probably not too much, Wikipedia currently lists as possibles only:
- China Eastern (and thus Shanghai Airlines)
- Grand China Air
- Jet Airways
- Kingfisher Airways
- Westjet (!)
#84



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Agreed, but I don't know of any other listing of potential new members.
If you can point me to somewhere that, using cited credible sources, lists Air Berlin, Alaska, China Eastern, Gol, Grand China Air, Kingfisher or Jet and Malaysian to join and South African, Korean or Asiana to leave their respective alliances for OW, I'd be more than happy to use that instead!
If you can point me to somewhere that, using cited credible sources, lists Air Berlin, Alaska, China Eastern, Gol, Grand China Air, Kingfisher or Jet and Malaysian to join and South African, Korean or Asiana to leave their respective alliances for OW, I'd be more than happy to use that instead!
#85
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I go to Bordeaux and getting there from DFW on OW is tough. Connex thru MAD causes a long layover; or you get into the LHR/LGW airport transfer in London, which no one does. Or you do the AA/AF interline via CDG. As alliances go, ST and SA have far better options to many European destinations.
#86
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+1. BOS really has a large HK and Taiwanese-backed Chinese population. Usually, choices to fly to HKG are BOS-JFK on AA and JFK-HKG on CX OR UA.
But...I don't think BOS has sufficient F/J demand for the 77A...
But...I don't think BOS has sufficient F/J demand for the 77A...
Last edited by toyotaboy95; Feb 13, 2010 at 12:09 am
#87

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I go to Bordeaux and getting there from DFW on OW is tough. Connex thru MAD causes a long layover; or you get into the LHR/LGW airport transfer in London, which no one does. Or you do the AA/AF interline via CDG. As alliances go, ST and SA have far better options to many European destinations.
In my experience air-to-HSR actually gets there equally fast because there's less time involved in waiting for your connecting flight. Plus when you arrive, you're already in the heart of Bordeaux. ^
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/codes...tners/SNCF.jsp
Last edited by kebosabi; Feb 13, 2010 at 3:38 pm
#88
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Well it sounds like there will be a couple of ex-LHR AA/BA slots at BOS, so who knows...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...plication.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...operation.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...plication.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...operation.html
#89
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Hey, thanks kebosabi, I never thought of that. I have taken the TGV btw Bordeaux and Paris or Lille, moving back and forth, but never in conjunction with a flight.
#90

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1. It never occurs to us Americans because we don't have any airports that have direct air-to-HSR option over here in the States (our intra-city passenger rail system is crap)
and
2. AA has a really outdated and inefficient marketing web page to tell the average flyer that such a codeshare even exists. One has to go to "About Us," "Alliances & Affiliates," "Other Alliances (Codeshare Partners)," scroll all the way down to "Deutsche Bahn (German Rail)" and "SNCF French Rail"

But bottom line, AA codeshares with the French TGV out of CDG and the German ICE trains from FRA work really great. They really should push this more in ads because it puts more destinations on the map for AA.
And yes, you earn AA miles for taking that TGV leg

