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thezipper Jan 13, 2009 10:02 am

E-Mail Your Comments to WorldPerks - [email protected]
 
All,

Due to the significant number of responses WorldPerks has been getting in regards to the program changes, they have set up an e-mail address specific for members to voice their comments, complaints, ideas and suggestions. This is a way for FT members, friends, co-workers, etc to provide input. I would suggest you resend your TTU's to this address as well.

[email protected]

thezipper
NWA Moderator

fti Jan 13, 2009 10:52 am

Just sent my EMail. But honestly, I think it is a waste of time. Just horrendous how an airline can destroy a frequent flyer program and a relationship with its best customers so quickly.

John

sbagdon Jan 13, 2009 11:34 am

Has anyone compiled a list of the changes, so that we can address each individually? Then a 3-line comment at the end?

tomh009 Jan 13, 2009 11:57 am


Originally Posted by thezipper (Post 11067200)
Due to the significant number of responses WorldPerks has been getting in regards to the program changes, they have set up an e-mail address specific for members to voice their comments, complaints, ideas and suggestions. This is a way for FT members, friends, co-workers, etc to provide input. I would suggest you resend your TTU's to this address as well.

I wonder whether the complaints have been overwhelming the TTU staff ...

gatechange Jan 13, 2009 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by sbagdon (Post 11067822)
Has anyone compiled a list of the changes, so that we can address each individually? Then a 3-line comment at the end?

Good idea so that we all march to the same beat. You can see most on this link
http://www.nwa.com/worldperks/program/wpnews/

BUT this is from the WP side and we all know we must read between the lines. :)

leiterk Jan 13, 2009 12:32 pm

Send notes first to Bob Soukup and other executives at NWA and Delta ...that's going
 
to get the most response.

As I mentioned before, happy to send Bob's email address to anyone interested.

Clearly they're getting more mail on this from Platinum members than anything else before ...now we should start encouraging Gold members to complain about the new increased fees and that they're not getting any relief!!!

kcnwgold Jan 13, 2009 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by leiterk (Post 11068233)
to get the most response.

As I mentioned before, happy to send Bob's email address to anyone interested.

Clearly they're getting more mail on this from Platinum members than anything else before ...now we should start encouraging Gold members to complain about the new increased fees and that they're not getting any relief!!!

I can confirm that they have heard from me!!!

fti Jan 13, 2009 12:42 pm

Post #273 in this link gives a good summary of the changes:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/north...-3-1-a-19.html

John

kcnwa Jan 13, 2009 12:50 pm

See, by having us send them to this "special" mail box, they can free up TTU and the exec mail boxes and promptly ignore us.

A simple ctrl+a then a shift+delete will be awaiting that mail box I'm sure.

So much for being heard. :rolleyes:

I'd have to say TTU or direct to execs is still the best. We obviously are being heard with that route.

thezipper Jan 13, 2009 1:03 pm

As I said, sending a TTU copying this e-mail address are the best... Bob said the e-mails would be read... he's been supportive of FlyerTalk, so I don't doubt him. Remember Bob isn't the one in charge who is ultimately directing the Skymiles program...

itsaboutthejourney Jan 13, 2009 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by thezipper (Post 11068459)
As I said, sending a TTU copying this e-mail address are the best... Bob said the e-mails would be read... he's been supportive of FlyerTalk, so I don't doubt him. Remember Bob isn't the one in charge who is ultimately directing the Skymiles program...

Good point. All these emails can be info Bob can use to make a case of this not being a good decision. He may have even predicted the outcry, and the number of emails can vindicate him.

sbagdon Jan 13, 2009 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by kcnwa (Post 11068369)
See, by having us send them to this "special" mail box, they can free up TTU and the exec mail boxes and promptly ignore us.

A simple ctrl+a then a shift+delete will be awaiting that mail box I'm sure.

So much for being heard. :rolleyes:

I'd have to say TTU or direct to execs is still the best. We obviously are being heard with that route.

I'm actually all for prompt TTU. I have a complaint that's been sitting out there for a few days, with no response. Granted, it was a rather complex (and as brief as possible) complaint, so it probably got immediately shuffled up the chain. I'm just suprised, as TTU usually replies to complaints <24hrs.

pragakhan Jan 13, 2009 3:35 pm

If they are getting a lot complaints and reading them, why do they need to go to a special mailbox?

SchmutzigMSP Jan 13, 2009 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by pragakhan (Post 11069549)
If they are getting a lot complaints and reading them, why do they need to go to a special mailbox?

If I was getting hundreds of emails on one topic, I would prefer to have them filtered/segmented into one location. Keeps things organized and increases the chance that I'll read them all while decreasing the chances that I'll miss one or accidentally delete one.

dvs7310 Jan 13, 2009 6:33 pm

Though I have no doubt it will fall on deaf ears, I sent my complaint, rather long and detailed. I had full plans of matching back to Worldperks before I started flying again this year but the series of changes since 1/1 have been a killer and I can't see abandoning OnePass anymore even though Star Alliance doesn't meet my needs nearly as well. Its truely sad what Delta is doing to NW, its a loss of another great airline.

mnredfox Jan 13, 2009 7:43 pm

To summarize my complaints which I will send in my email:

- Elimination of Plat waiver for award tix changes (reversed for two free waivers/year)
- Addition of third tier and loss of Perksaver availability
- Disparity between DL & NW ranks due to MQM promos
- Inflation of miles required for Hawaii and Europe (and others)
- Crap fees: Award redemption/change fees (increasing til departure), partner award booking fees, any more?
- No waiver for loss of SDC standby
- EEP at 60K gone, devaluation of EEP program
- 100% PE bonus instead of 125%
- No EQM bonus on Y/B fares (reversed)
- Elimination of PE/GE airport companion UG's

Scared of:
- Elimination of 1K base miles UG guarantee for PE
- Elimination of Award UG's
- Elimination of PE Companion UG at 5 day window
- Elimination of Companion UG for PE/GE on discounted fares

Anything else? Help me out before I write my email...

Updated my post to reflect the changes that keep coming...

humanoid94 Jan 14, 2009 6:31 am

I have a feeling that many years from now someone will write a extension of the book Hard Landing continuing the cautionary tales gleemed from airline deaths.

It will feature:
1. Pan Am's disasterous purchase of National Airlines. The lesson, don't overpay for an acquisation of an airline that does not fit your route structure.
2. People's Express- Revenue Management and inventory control are critical.
3. Eastern Airlines- Make sure to have your labor onboard.
4. Continental Airlines aka Texas International (versions 1 and 2)- Irational acquisations are no way to run an airline.
5. Independence Air- Make sure to have the right aircraft for your route network.
6. TWA don't shrink yourself to profitability by selling your greatest assets (LHR Access).

etc...

12. Delta Airlines- Don't unilateraly destroy your frequent flyer program unless you are comfortable with being entirely O and D.

fti Jan 14, 2009 9:20 am

Just received a cold, canned response to my TTU:
Our goal is to be the carrier of distinct preference and feedback like
yours is critical to our success. Northwest Airlines is committed to
providing the best frequent flyer program in the industry. Customer
observations, suggestions, and experiences form the basis of improved
operations.

We realize that customer loyalty cannot be taken for granted. To that
end, our WorldPerks program and its promotions are constantly under
review. We can assure you that as a valued WorldPerks member, your
comments have received close attention for future planning.

We recognize that travelers have a choice of airlines and we deeply
appreciate those who choose Northwest Airlines and the WorldPerks
program. We hope that Northwest Airlines, along with our SkyTeam and
other partner airlines, will have the continued privilege of serving
your air travel needs.

Sincerely,

A. B.
WorldPerks Customer Service Center
"committed to providing the best frequent flyer program in the industry"? Who are they kidding. GUWonder, you are right about the kool-aid. NW is definitely drinking it.

John

gatechange Jan 14, 2009 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by mnredfox (Post 11070940)
To summarize my complaints which I will send in my email:

- Elimination of Plat waiver for award tix changes
- Addition of third tier and loss of Perksaver
- Disparity between DL & NW ranks due to MQM promos
- Inflation of miles required for Hawaii and Europe
- Crap fees: Award redemption/change fees (increasing til departure), partner award booking fees, any more?

Scared of:
- Elimination of 1K base miles UG guarantee for PE
- Elimination of Award UG's
- Elimination of PE Companion UG at 5 day window
- Elimination of Companion UG for PE/GE on discounted fares
- 100% PE bonus instead of 125%

Anything else? Help me out before I write my email...

- I am sure we are headed to an expiration of 12-18 months on miles - which doesn't factor in for most of us but does my kids miles at this time.
- I am sure we are headed to a 100K PE (no more 75K) sometime soon as well.
- Elite Extra Perks going to new levels 100K etc and no more 60K level

I am sure there are more!

gatechange Jan 14, 2009 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by fti (Post 11074150)
Just received a cold, canned response to my TTU:

Was this to the email address posted or other way?


Before I use the email address has anyone gotten a reply from the posted email address to show they ARE checking it?

thezipper Jan 14, 2009 12:28 pm

Bob said they wouldnt reply to every response to the posted e-mail address, but I'm guessing if you're a 2% Club member and tell them you're leaving, you'll get a reply...


Originally Posted by gatechange (Post 11075534)
Was this to the email address posted or other way?


Before I use the email address has anyone gotten a reply from the posted email address to show they ARE checking it?


raehl311 Jan 14, 2009 3:02 pm

It could be that there is some internal disagreement as to the direction of the Worldperks program, and while Delta screw-it-up stalwarts have been "winning" thus far, those who see the value in a solid frequent-flyer program are looking for some evidence/support in the form of a sufficient number of irate customer emails to show why these changes are actually bad for business.

fti Jan 14, 2009 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by gatechange (Post 11075534)
Was this to the email address posted or other way?


Before I use the email address has anyone gotten a reply from the posted email address to show they ARE checking it?

My response was from my TTU which was sent before I sent my EMail. No res;ponse to the EMail.

John

NWA-PLAT Jan 14, 2009 4:39 pm

I sent a TTU 9-Jan and received a phone call at my office 13-Jan.

Bago'peanuts Jan 14, 2009 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by NWA-PLAT (Post 11077283)
I sent a TTU 9-Jan and received a phone call at my office 13-Jan.

Phone call? Did the caller simply recite the blather in their canned e-mail responses?

If it was DL calling instead of NW, I would have expected a recorded message.

gpan Jan 14, 2009 6:23 pm

Keep writing. Keep telling other passengers about the negative changes coming along... Keep WP/SM "Our" Perks - copy your friends who fly DL/NW who care with your emails...make sure people know about them on blogs, travel forums, the press.

Only if we make our disagreement and disgust with the changes visible can we keep Delta/NW the Delta/NW we know.....

thepla Jan 14, 2009 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by thezipper (Post 11075552)
Bob said they wouldnt reply to every response to the posted e-mail address, but I'm guessing if you're a 2% Club member and tell them you're leaving, you'll get a reply...

I don't remember reading Bob said this. He must be expecting lots of E-mails to clarify with that comment from the get-go. Too bad all of them don;t have a ticket from another carrier attached.

humanoid94 Jan 14, 2009 8:13 pm

Does anyone have the ear of CO Insider? I think this would be the perfect time for CO to launch a formalized status match program and make an active run at grabbing disaffected NW and DL elites. Imagine something on co.com that welcomes NW/DL elites with a simple form to complete for status and some kind of bonus program for your first few flights. It could be a huge success. It would be a program that would have effectively zero cost for CO, but with huge upside potential.

Michigan Czar Jan 14, 2009 8:28 pm

Jump to CO
 

Originally Posted by humanoid94 (Post 11078420)
Does anyone have the ear of CO Insider? I think this would be the perfect time for CO to launch a formalized status match program and make an active run at grabbing disaffected NW and DL elites. Imagine something on co.com that welcomes NW/DL elites with a simple form to complete for status and some kind of bonus program for your first few flights. It could be a huge success. It would be a program that would have effectively zero cost for CO, but with huge upside potential.

I agree, they were the one ship I am probably jumping to. I will not conect in ORD so CO may be my airline of choice after 20 some years with NW. It is disappointing that DL can screw NW up so quickly.

trog Jan 14, 2009 11:05 pm

Now is it time to cut up the World Perks visa card?
 
Since NW/Delta is kind of a monopoly in some markets, it may be difficult for some to completely shift all travel to a more customer friendly airline and frequent flyer program. As miles are quickly becoming more and more worthless, why not at least express displeasure by discontinuing use or cancelling your World Perks credit card and stop patronizing World Perks mileage partners?

Since the company likely makes a significant amount of money from the credit card and world perks partners, why help the company by continuing to collect miles from these sources when they are more than happy to ruin the FF program and totally disregard their customers? Maybe a few thousand sent back cut up credit cards and a reduction in WP partner revenue will get the pinheads who run the company to start realizing that loyal customers do not enjoy being treated like ignorant unimportant sources of revenue.

By the way, since NW/Delta is kind of a monopoly in some places, and the customer unfriendly direction they are taking is the way a monopoly is more free to behave, I wonder why this merger was even allowed in the first place. Maybe this is something that the incoming administration should take another look at.

seoulmanjr Jan 15, 2009 12:16 am


Originally Posted by humanoid94 (Post 11078420)
Does anyone have the ear of CO Insider? I think this would be the perfect time for CO to launch a formalized status match program and make an active run at grabbing disaffected NW and DL elites. Imagine something on co.com that welcomes NW/DL elites with a simple form to complete for status and some kind of bonus program for your first few flights. It could be a huge success. It would be a program that would have effectively zero cost for CO, but with huge upside potential.

I doubt they'd go the route of an official, online, automated program/portal. That said, CO is definitely matching status for disaffected NW elites. I emailed in my request with a scan of my WP card and latest statement and they processed the Platinum status match in one business day.

peace,
~Ben~

TravellingMan Jan 15, 2009 1:55 am


Originally Posted by trog (Post 11079069)
I wonder why this merger was even allowed in the first place. Maybe this is something that the incoming administration should take another look at.

I am sure the market will sort this out quickly. With travel falling, it will just go to the most efficient one with cash.

TheMadBrewer Jan 15, 2009 8:54 am


Originally Posted by seoulmanjr (Post 11079278)
I emailed in my request with a scan of my WP card and latest statement and they processed the Platinum status match in one business day.

You folks who are status matching with CO: Did you send them copies of your online statement or are you still getting paper ones?

Also, let us know how it goes with upgrades and stuff once you're over there.

seoulmanjr Jan 15, 2009 9:16 am


Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer (Post 11081038)
You folks who are status matching with CO: Did you send them copies of your online statement or are you still getting paper ones?

Also, let us know how it goes with upgrades and stuff once you're over there.

I just PDFed a copy of my online account summary and attached it to the email with a scanof my elite card. No problem.

peace,
~Ben~

kcnwgold Jan 15, 2009 10:51 am


Originally Posted by thezipper (Post 11067200)
All,

Due to the significant number of responses WorldPerks has been getting in regards to the program changes, they have set up an e-mail address specific for members to voice their comments, complaints, ideas and suggestions. This is a way for FT members, friends, co-workers, etc to provide input. I would suggest you resend your TTU's to this address as well.

[email protected]

thezipper
NWA Moderator

I have sent in my letter to the e-mail provided. Is it known whether there will be a specific communication back to FlyerTalk members after they have reviewed all of our letters with a result of the review?

Thanks!

BearX220 Jan 15, 2009 3:32 pm

I sent my (goodbye) note today, but I doubt I'll get a response, let alone see any corporate action.

FlytheTail Jan 15, 2009 6:55 pm

It appears that [email protected] does not appear anywhere online except here on FlyerTalk. Is NW trying to separate FT'ers from the masses by giving us a special E-mail address?

If so, any reason to use the generic TTU E-mail?

mnredfox Jan 16, 2009 9:45 am

Haven't sent my TTU yet, but talked to a PE agent the other day about the award changes. He said send to TTU, I'll probably do both to the email and TTU. Will do so in the next day or two. Hopefully all these crappy enhancements will stabilize and stop soon, so I can write an email and not have to write another one in a week for the fleecing that occurred.

Manoa Chris Jan 16, 2009 10:28 am


Originally Posted by BearX220 (Post 11083998)
I sent my (goodbye) note today, but I doubt I'll get a response, let alone see any corporate action.

Sent mine, too. Felt like a breakup, except it's them, not me.

PersonalFlotationDevice Jan 16, 2009 6:04 pm

I just sent an email with my reasons. I had previously complained on the phone and tried TTU (but couldn't get the bloody thing to work).


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