I am looking at booking a flight from DUS to DXB on AirFrance but want to be sure of the miles I will be recieving based off of NW's new rules on AF flights. Below I have copied both the fare rules and the NW list of AF classes for mileage purposes. I am not positive which class this fare is in and therefore how many miles I can expect to recieve. I am thinking V, L or R but really don't know what I am looking at. Thanks for any help.

Effective September 1, 2007
Earning Banked Miles
100% of actual miles flown (500-mile minimum) P, F, J, C, D, I, Z, Y, S, A, B, M, K, H, T, R, V, Q, W, E
50% mileage bonus for travel in P, F, J, C, D, I, Z
50% of actual miles flown G, U
25% of actual miles flown N, L


Elite Qualifying Air France Fare Classes on Air France-coded, Air France-operated
Elite Qualifying Miles at 150%: P, F, J, C, D, I, Z, Y, S
Elite Qualifying Miles at 100%: A, B, M, K, H, T, R, V, Q, W, E
Elite Qualifying Miles at 50%: G, U
Elite Qualifying Miles at 25%: N, L
Elite Qualifying Segments: P, F, J, C, D, I, Z, Y, S, G, A, B, M, K, H, T, R, L, N, V, Q, U, W, E



From: Dusseldorf, Germany (DUS-All Airports)
To: Dubai, United Arab Emirates (DXB-Dubayy Intl.)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: LEBDE

V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 LEBDE L R 493.00 E15SE T12SE -/� SU/ 1M EH01
D31OC
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-DUS TO-DXB CXR-AF TVL-02OCT07 RULE-8241 IPREUME/22
FARE BASIS-LEBDE SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-XPN RT-INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES
EUR 233.00 CONS E15SEP07 D31OCT07 FC-LEBDE FN-97
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 07AUG07/1155 EXPIRES INFINITY

50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
AIR FRANCE - NONREFUNDABLE ADVANCE PURCHASE FARES
FROM GERMANY TO MIDDLE EAST
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM GERMANY
TO MIDDLE EAST.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/ORIGIN SINGLE OPEN-JAW
JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
JUDGEMENT.
OTHER CONDITIONS
THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS-
THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT
BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .
01.ELIGIBILITY
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT
ANY LX FLIGHT
ANY SK FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY US FLIGHT
ANY UA FLIGHT
ANY RG FLIGHT
ANY 4M FLIGHT
ANY LA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 4M
ANY UU FLIGHT
ANY DT FLIGHT
ANY PK FLIGHT
ANY JS FLIGHT
ANY FG FLIGHT
ANY GA FLIGHT
ANY QZ FLIGHT
ANY 3Y FLIGHT
ANY RI FLIGHT
ANY MZ FLIGHT
ANY 7P FLIGHT
ANY AW FLIGHT
ANY RW FLIGHT
ANY NV FLIGHT
ANY DC FLIGHT
ANY QH FLIGHT
ANY R8 FLIGHT
ANY O3 FLIGHT
ANY I7 FLIGHT
ANY ZC FLIGHT
ANY Q4 FLIGHT
ANY EO FLIGHT
ANY BA FLIGHT.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 100 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 93
DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
SECTORS.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 11 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7
DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 10
DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
OR - CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL
SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE CRS
LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK.
THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.
06.MINIMUM STAY
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 1
MONTH AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
08.STOPOVERS
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
09.TRANSFERS
1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
10.COMBINATIONS
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE
SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY REGULAR EXCURSION/
INSTANT PURCHASE FARE/REGULAR APEX/APEX
NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/SPECIAL APEX/SUPER/SPECIAL
INSTANT PURCHASE/4TH LEVEL EXCURSION FARE/SPECIAL
EXCURSION FARE/3RD LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/3RD
LEVEL EXCURSION FARE/5TH LEVEL EXCURSION FARE/
EXCURSION NON-DISCOUNTABLE/2ND LEVEL ADVANCE
PURCHASE/3RD LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL
SUPER/SPECIAL ADVANCE PURCHASE-TYPE FARES FOR
CARRIER KL
OR FOR CARRIER AF IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY 2ND LEVEL INSTANT
PURCHASE/3RD LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/4TH LEVEL
INSTANT PURCHASE/5TH LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/
BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL/INSTANT PURCHASE
NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER KL
OR FOR CARRIER AF IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.
11.BLACKOUT DATES
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
12.SURCHARGES
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN UNITED STATES/MEXICO/PERU/
ARGENTINA/URUGUAY.
FUEL SURCHARGE OF EUR 65.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 15SEP07 AND ON/
BEFORE 31OCT07.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01AUG07 AND ON/BEFORE
12SEP07.
16.PENALTIES
FARE RULE
CHANGES

CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
---------------- CHANGE ------------------------
-1- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT
CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED
REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS.
--------------------------------------------------
-2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/
CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED
REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS.
-------------------------------------------------
-3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
CHANGES OR REROUTING ARE NOT PERMITTED
REFER TO REFUND CONDITIONS.

CANCELLATIONS

TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
---------------- REFUND ----------------------
-1- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND BEFORE
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE
--------------------------------------------------
-2- BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY BUT AFTER
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT /NO-SHOW/
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE
-------------------------------------------------
-3- AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
AT ANY TIME - IN CASE OF REFUND - PAPER TICKET
SURCHARGE IS NOT REFUNDABLE WHEN APPLIED.
17.HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
FOR STOPOVERS.
18.TICKET ENDORSEMENTS
THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NO REFUND / NO
CHANGE - IN THE FORM OF PAYMENT BOX.
AND - THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NON
ENDORSABLE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
19.CHILDREN DISCOUNTS
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UNACCOMPANIED MINOR NOT PERMITTED
20.TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS
TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
21.AGENT DISCOUNTS
AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
22.ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
23.MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE FARE THAT APPLIES ON THE DATE OF PURCHASE
IS ONLY VALID FOR THE ENTIRE ITINERARY AND THE
SPECIFIC TRAVEL DATES MENTIONED ON THE TICKET.
ANY MODIFICATION MAY REQUIRE THE PAYMENT OF AN
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT.
FULL AND SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS-
THE TICKET/ OR ELECTRONIC TICKET / IS NOT VALID IF
THE FIRST COUPON HAS NOT BEEN USED AND WILL NOT
BE HONORED IF ALL THE COUPONS ARE NOT USED IN THE
SEQUENCE PROVIDED IN THE TICKET / OR ELECTRONIC
TICKET / .
25.FARE BY RULE
NOT APPLICABLE.
26.GROUPS

This looks like an L fare to me with a fare basis of LEBDE. 25% EQM is painful sorry...

Thats what I was afraid of. Looks like perhaps an Alitalia flight for the same price a day earlier. Thanks for the help.

Good call! That's the one great thing about Alitalia... you can still earn 100% miles for all flights, even for the FB program which is notorious for making you pay for EVERYTHING (including a 900 number for reservations, internet booking surcharge, etc.)

The AF website, unlike NWA's will only offer the cheapest fare available, unless you want a fully-flexible ticket. In order to assure that I get my miles, I always book AF flights over the phone. Often, the lowest 100%-earning fare is only $10 or $20 more than the 25%-earning fare. Plus the $10 for the phone call, of course.

The KL site does have that flexibility, but unfortunately you can't book a flight originating in the US - it redirects you to the NW website. (As a side note, this stupidity prevents Europeans from buying domestic US tickets online because you can only pay with a US CC.)

Does anyone know when NW announced this? I'm book on AF in a few weeks in L class and now my PE status will be in jeopardy. I've been flying AF this year IAD-CDG, but obviously I wasn't paying any attention to change in mileage.

Is the cut-over date that purchase date or the flight date? I purchased way prior to September 1, 2007 - does that mean I'll still get full credit?

Is it just me or is it getting harder and harder to make use of Skyteam - first Continental and now this...