Overnight Layover in BLL
#31
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You seem to have taken the value from the "14-day cumulative number of COVID-19 cases per 100 000" field on the website of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. This is not the correct unit of measurement. Denmark takes all reported infections during the past 14 days and calculates the average weekly rate per 100,000 people. 37.2 is the biweekly rate, so you will have to divide this by two to get approximately the correct value.
#32
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You're correct. You can do a same-day transit even from a banned country in BLL. FYI: arrivals hotline of the Danish police: +45 7020 6044. Called them twice in the past 3 weeks, a very quick and clear answer each time.
#33
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Also in yesterday's update:
- The border closes for the Netherlands, Switzerland, Hungary and Austria.
- The border opens for San Marino.
- SSI warns people not to travel to certain regions: "North West" in the UK (the area scored 54.1) and "Ida-Viru Maakond" in Estonia (the area scored 127.8).
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Indeed. We have gone up even quicker than I thought. We are, in fact, already above 30 as of today (61.8 over the last two weeks so 30.9/week). We had a close shave this week but it seems certain that we will be on the banned list with next week's update.
#35
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Today's border closures: Ireland (34.1), Iceland (32.7), Slovenia (30.7) and the United Kingdom (36.4).
Denmark recommends against travel to regions in open countries if the region has a rate exceeding 50. Currently this is the case with Blagoevgrad (98.4) in Bulgaria, Ida-Viru Maakond (266.2) and Võru Maakond (56.0) in Estonia, Provincia Autonomia Di Trento (70.4) and Liguria (58.6) in Italy, Vestland (56.5) in Norway and Bratislavsky (78.8) in Slovakia.
If a Nordic country is closed, then Denmark still allows entry to people living in safe regions in that country. When Sweden was closed in June and July, there was a separate list with open and closed Swedish counties. Iceland was closed today, but I can't find a list with open and closed Icelandic regions.
Denmark recommends against travel to regions in open countries if the region has a rate exceeding 50. Currently this is the case with Blagoevgrad (98.4) in Bulgaria, Ida-Viru Maakond (266.2) and Võru Maakond (56.0) in Estonia, Provincia Autonomia Di Trento (70.4) and Liguria (58.6) in Italy, Vestland (56.5) in Norway and Bratislavsky (78.8) in Slovakia.
If a Nordic country is closed, then Denmark still allows entry to people living in safe regions in that country. When Sweden was closed in June and July, there was a separate list with open and closed Swedish counties. Iceland was closed today, but I can't find a list with open and closed Icelandic regions.
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Today's border closures: Ireland (34.1), Iceland (32.7), Slovenia (30.7) and the United Kingdom (36.4).
Denmark recommends against travel to regions in open countries if the region has a rate exceeding 50. Currently this is the case with Blagoevgrad (98.4) in Bulgaria, Ida-Viru Maakond (266.2) and Võru Maakond (56.0) in Estonia, Provincia Autonomia Di Trento (70.4) and Liguria (58.6) in Italy, Vestland (56.5) in Norway and Bratislavsky (78.8) in Slovakia.
If a Nordic country is closed, then Denmark still allows entry to people living in safe regions in that country. When Sweden was closed in June and July, there was a separate list with open and closed Swedish counties. Iceland was closed today, but I can't find a list with open and closed Icelandic regions.
Denmark recommends against travel to regions in open countries if the region has a rate exceeding 50. Currently this is the case with Blagoevgrad (98.4) in Bulgaria, Ida-Viru Maakond (266.2) and Võru Maakond (56.0) in Estonia, Provincia Autonomia Di Trento (70.4) and Liguria (58.6) in Italy, Vestland (56.5) in Norway and Bratislavsky (78.8) in Slovakia.
If a Nordic country is closed, then Denmark still allows entry to people living in safe regions in that country. When Sweden was closed in June and July, there was a separate list with open and closed Swedish counties. Iceland was closed today, but I can't find a list with open and closed Icelandic regions.
#37
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Currently open:
- Denmark: Greenland only. If using public transport, then you can't transit through the rest of Denmark, so you have to travel by private jet or something to avoid quarantine in Norway.
- Finland: Everything except Southern Savonia.
- Sweden: 8 out of 21 counties (Blekinge, Gotland, Kalmar, Norrbotten, Södermanland, Värmland, Västerbotten, Västernorrland).
Finland doesn't seem to open or close for specific regions. All of Norway and Sweden is currently open, and everything closes on Monday, except that people living in the vicinity of the land border can cross the border close to where they live. Finland seems to look at the country you are arriving from, and this makes it harder to open certain regions. To my knowledge, it's only possible to enter Finland from four Swedish regions (land border: Norrbotten; ferries: Stockholm and Västerbotten; flights: Stockholm/ARN and Västra Götaland/GOT), two Norwegian regions (land border: Troms og Finnmark; flights: Viken/OSL) and one Danish region (flights: Hovedstaden/CPH). It is therefore useless to open and close other regions apart from those seven as everyone else would transit through one of those.
#38
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I know that Norway also opens and closes specific regions.
Currently open:
Finland doesn't seem to open or close for specific regions. All of Norway and Sweden is currently open, and everything closes on Monday, except that people living in the vicinity of the land border can cross the border close to where they live. Finland seems to look at the country you are arriving from, and this makes it harder to open certain regions. To my knowledge, it's only possible to enter Finland from four Swedish regions (land border: Norrbotten; ferries: Stockholm and Västerbotten; flights: Stockholm/ARN and Västra Götaland/GOT), two Norwegian regions (land border: Troms og Finnmark; flights: Viken/OSL) and one Danish region (flights: Hovedstaden/CPH). It is therefore useless to open and close other regions apart from those seven as everyone else would transit through one of those.
Currently open:
- Denmark: Greenland only. If using public transport, then you can't transit through the rest of Denmark, so you have to travel by private jet or something to avoid quarantine in Norway.
- Finland: Everything except Southern Savonia.
- Sweden: 8 out of 21 counties (Blekinge, Gotland, Kalmar, Norrbotten, Södermanland, Värmland, Västerbotten, Västernorrland).
Finland doesn't seem to open or close for specific regions. All of Norway and Sweden is currently open, and everything closes on Monday, except that people living in the vicinity of the land border can cross the border close to where they live. Finland seems to look at the country you are arriving from, and this makes it harder to open certain regions. To my knowledge, it's only possible to enter Finland from four Swedish regions (land border: Norrbotten; ferries: Stockholm and Västerbotten; flights: Stockholm/ARN and Västra Götaland/GOT), two Norwegian regions (land border: Troms og Finnmark; flights: Viken/OSL) and one Danish region (flights: Hovedstaden/CPH). It is therefore useless to open and close other regions apart from those seven as everyone else would transit through one of those.
Not many countries in yellow left but hoping that the reverse trend will start soon.
#39
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Today, Denmark decided to close the border for residents of San Marino (34.8) and Slovakia (34.5), effective from Saturday. The border didn't open for any countries.
The border remains open for residents of Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Norway, Poland and Sweden.
As usual, Denmark advises against travel to regions in open countries which score higher than 50. Ida-Viru Maakond (272.5) in Estonia remains on that list and Voreio Aigaio (86.6) in Greece has been added.
The border remains open for residents of Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Norway, Poland and Sweden.
As usual, Denmark advises against travel to regions in open countries which score higher than 50. Ida-Viru Maakond (272.5) in Estonia remains on that list and Voreio Aigaio (86.6) in Greece has been added.
#40
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Today, Denmark decided to close the border for residents of San Marino (34.8) and Slovakia (34.5), effective from Saturday. The border didn't open for any countries.
The border remains open for residents of Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Norway, Poland and Sweden.
As usual, Denmark advises against travel to regions in open countries which score higher than 50. Ida-Viru Maakond (272.5) in Estonia remains on that list and Voreio Aigaio (86.6) in Greece has been added.
The border remains open for residents of Bulgaria, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Norway, Poland and Sweden.
As usual, Denmark advises against travel to regions in open countries which score higher than 50. Ida-Viru Maakond (272.5) in Estonia remains on that list and Voreio Aigaio (86.6) in Greece has been added.
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An update in connecting in BLL: I flew in last weekend on KLM. There was a passport spot check on exiting the aircraft, with a bank of approx 6 officers with ad hoc desks set up. I was asked to show my BP for the flight departing from BLL but It all proceeded very smoothly and fast and I was back upstairs in the departure area in less than 5 minutes. I was however among the very first off the aircraft. I suspect that those sitting at the very back of the aircraft would have had more of a wait but, all in all, with the number of staff deployed for a single E90 aircraft, I would have thought that this should have been reasonably swift.
#42
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The border closed for Sweden (32.4) at national level, which means that Denmark evaluates Sweden at county level. The border is closed for residents of the following counties: Blekinge län (43.2), Hallands län (45.3), Jämtlands län (46.8), Kronobergs län (39.5), Stockholms län (46.5), Uppsala län (55.2), Västmanlands län (59.2) and Örebro län (42.6).
Denmark warns about the following regions in open countries: Pomeranian (50.7) in Poland, Blagoevgrad (53.4) in Bulgaria, Šiaulių Apskritis (59.8) in Lithuania, Voreio Aigaio (67.8) in Greece and Ida-Viru Maakond (358.4) in Estonia.
Denmark closes the border if a country reaches 30, but Denmark itself is above 50, so I don't think that the criteria make sense right now.
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An update in connecting in BLL: I flew in last weekend on KLM. There was a passport spot check on exiting the aircraft, with a bank of approx 6 officers with ad hoc desks set up. I was asked to show my BP for the flight departing from BLL but It all proceeded very smoothly and fast and I was back upstairs in the departure area in less than 5 minutes. I was however among the very first off the aircraft. I suspect that those sitting at the very back of the aircraft would have had more of a wait but, all in all, with the number of staff deployed for a single E90 aircraft, I would have thought that this should have been reasonably swift.
Last edited by GUWonder; Oct 9, 2020 at 12:02 pm
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Just curious, but did you get a sense of what proportion of the passengers on board were Danish? Danish border control dealing with Danish passport users would generally work far faster and smoother than for those with passports from countries that are zoned in part or whole as "closed" by Denmark but may still be admissible on some basis.