Is Newark a suburb of New York City? Or is Newark a city with its own identity?
Mar 30, 2012, 12:48 pm
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I just went over to NJ.com, and someone posted the following:
So the Meadowlands is considered "in NYC's shadow" because it's closer to Manhattan than Newark is?
Meanwhile, Newark is farther away from Manhattan and has its own distinction as a city?
Giants Stadium as it always will be referred to here (Met Life) is literally in the shadows. Its only a short distance from the tunnel or quick train. Nassau Coliseum is hardly 'in the shadows' of Manhattan but is referred that way because of its proximity to Queens which is a NYC boro but its not that close to Manhattan.
Newark is about 20 minutes via train, car. You need to cross over a huge river in the Hudson and cross over the Newark Bay. There are 2 cities one comparable in size to Newark to go through before you get to Newark, Jersey City has a bout 240,000 and Bayonne about 85,000 compared to Newark 270,000. So yes as a crows flight you can consider them close and in the shadow but they are drastically different. Two different states two different cities and two different identities.
Newark is about 20 minutes via train, car. You need to cross over a huge river in the Hudson and cross over the Newark Bay. There are 2 cities one comparable in size to Newark to go through before you get to Newark, Jersey City has a bout 240,000 and Bayonne about 85,000 compared to Newark 270,000. So yes as a crows flight you can consider them close and in the shadow but they are drastically different. Two different states two different cities and two different identities.
Meanwhile, Newark is farther away from Manhattan and has its own distinction as a city?
Mar 30, 2012, 1:45 pm
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The Meadowlands is a sports complex located about equidistant between Newark and NYC. Do you think that the Meadowlands is its own city? You would be wrong; it's in the town of East Rutherford.
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Mar 31, 2012, 9:36 am
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I think the term shadows is confusing to some as from Giants stadium, from my town which is 13 miles west from Manhattan and even some highway angles from EWR - you can see the Manhattan skyline on a clear day. The interpretation of shadow may be you can see Manhattan.
However, Jersey City and Hoboken are directly across the Hudson from Manhattan (so you might say shadows/backyard/long swim/ferry or 6 minute subway ride away) but it like Newark with its own city and local government, tax base, schools, etc. in a different state and operate entirely independent of New York City or NY State (excluding PANYNJ agency).
A good comparison would be Detroit, MI & Windsor, Canada very close and part of the same metropolitan area but VERY VERY different.
As Analise has stated - don't get confused by distance or proximity - it is a city and separate of NYC except for easy accessibility (highway & public transportation).
However, Jersey City and Hoboken are directly across the Hudson from Manhattan (so you might say shadows/backyard/long swim/ferry or 6 minute subway ride away) but it like Newark with its own city and local government, tax base, schools, etc. in a different state and operate entirely independent of New York City or NY State (excluding PANYNJ agency).
A good comparison would be Detroit, MI & Windsor, Canada very close and part of the same metropolitan area but VERY VERY different.
As Analise has stated - don't get confused by distance or proximity - it is a city and separate of NYC except for easy accessibility (highway & public transportation).
Mar 31, 2012, 11:11 am
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However, Jersey City and Hoboken are directly across the Hudson from Manhattan (so you might say shadows/backyard/long swim/ferry or 6 minute subway ride away) but it like Newark with its own city and local government, tax base, schools, etc. in a different state and operate entirely independent of New York City or NY State (excluding PANYNJ agency).
Mar 31, 2012, 12:08 pm
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20 posts + this one on Newark? 
So not worth it.
Newark, along with Camden (was/is) the armpit of New Jersey.
So not worth it. Newark, along with Camden (was/is) the armpit of New Jersey.
Mar 31, 2012, 5:43 pm
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I think the term shadows is confusing to some as from Giants stadium, from my town which is 13 miles west from Manhattan and even some highway angles from EWR - you can see the Manhattan skyline on a clear day. The interpretation of shadow may be you can see Manhattan.
However, Jersey City and Hoboken are directly across the Hudson from Manhattan (so you might say shadows/backyard/long swim/ferry or 6 minute subway ride away) but it like Newark with its own city and local government, tax base, schools, etc. in a different state and operate entirely independent of New York City or NY State (excluding PANYNJ agency).
A good comparison would be Detroit, MI & Windsor, Canada very close and part of the same metropolitan area but VERY VERY different.
As Analise has stated - don't get confused by distance or proximity - it is a city and separate of NYC except for easy accessibility (highway & public transportation).
However, Jersey City and Hoboken are directly across the Hudson from Manhattan (so you might say shadows/backyard/long swim/ferry or 6 minute subway ride away) but it like Newark with its own city and local government, tax base, schools, etc. in a different state and operate entirely independent of New York City or NY State (excluding PANYNJ agency).
A good comparison would be Detroit, MI & Windsor, Canada very close and part of the same metropolitan area but VERY VERY different.
As Analise has stated - don't get confused by distance or proximity - it is a city and separate of NYC except for easy accessibility (highway & public transportation).
Mar 31, 2012, 6:19 pm
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Originally, I thought Newark is an "urban suburb" of NYC. By this I mean that many people commute from Newark (or through Newark) to NYC on to go to work. I figured that in terms of business, Newark isn't standing on its own due to the economic influence from across the Hudson.
Apr 1, 2012, 6:03 am
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I would differentiate Newark positively versus Camden or Trenton in a few factors:
Newark has the biggest cherry blossom in the US (beating DC)
Ironbound is great for food/culture
Newark does have a diversity of cultures of people (not saying all great but it exist unlike the other two)
Newark has sports franchise (Devils & Nets {until next year})
Performing Arts Center
All of above can be accomplished without compromising safety.
Newark has the biggest cherry blossom in the US (beating DC)
Ironbound is great for food/culture
Newark does have a diversity of cultures of people (not saying all great but it exist unlike the other two)
Newark has sports franchise (Devils & Nets {until next year})
Performing Arts Center
All of above can be accomplished without compromising safety.
Apr 2, 2012, 7:57 pm
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Just one last (random) question, guys.
Can the Manhattan skyline at least be seen from the Prudential Center in Newark?
Can the Manhattan skyline at least be seen from the Prudential Center in Newark?
Apr 2, 2012, 8:02 pm
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Apr 3, 2012, 10:25 am
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I can't believe two pages have been spent on a question that seems to be premised on a misunderstanding of a definition. http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/suburb
Here's a link to a website called City of Newark, New Jersey. http://www.ci.newark.nj.us/
OP, why don't you send your question to Mayor Booker and the City Council and see what response you get?
Here's a link to a website called City of Newark, New Jersey. http://www.ci.newark.nj.us/
OP, why don't you send your question to Mayor Booker and the City Council and see what response you get?
Apr 3, 2012, 11:11 am
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I can't believe two pages have been spent on a question that seems to be premised on a misunderstanding of a definition. http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/suburb
SUBURB:a town or other area where people live in houses near a larger city
That is, in my opinion, an absolutely awful definition of the word. One does not need to live house to be in a suburb. Also, "a town or other area" is an incredibly vague statement.
By that very definition, Queens, a borough of the City of New York is indeed a suburb, or even yes, Newark and Jersey City are both Suburbs, because they are "other areas" near a larger city, where people live in houses.
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Apr 3, 2012, 11:32 am
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I can't believe two pages have been spent on a question that seems to be premised on a misunderstanding of a definition. http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/suburb
That is, in my opinion, an absolutely awful definition of the word. One does not need to live house to be in a suburb. Also, "a town or other area" is an incredibly vague statement.
By that very definition, Queens, a borough of the City of New York is indeed a suburb, or even yes, Newark and Jersey City are both Suburbs, because they are "other areas" near a larger city, where people live in houses.
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