Burn or Hoard Miles
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Incidentally, I think Mort Beyer was completely wrong in that USA Today article, claiming that the airlines lost 20 billion in revenue on award flights. If 70% of the seats are filled, and they give away 10% of them, there are still 20% empty seats. And as FT's have gone on and on about, the yield management folks just don't release many FC seats to Hawaii at Christmas. So the vast majority of award seats are seats that would have been empty anyway. NO loss of revenue.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by toadman:
The airlines probably won't make that drastic change for the simple reason that no airline wants to be the first to go out on that limb and hang itself. I could see the mileage redemption rates going up though.</font>
The airlines probably won't make that drastic change for the simple reason that no airline wants to be the first to go out on that limb and hang itself. I could see the mileage redemption rates going up though.</font>
Anyway, I don't buy the argument that airlines are "giving away" 10% of their seats as mileage awards. First, I see much of these awards as "pre-paid" travel, because half of miles earned are through things like using a specific credit card in which the airline earns money from. Second, many of this 10% are awards for seats that wouldn't have been sold. If a flight would have flown half-empty with no award customers on it, is instead 75% full with 25% award customers, the additional cost to fly those customers is relatively small. Maybe just $20 more per person, for things like a meal, ground support, and a bit more fuel because the plane is heavier. So if it costs an airline only $20 to fly someone on a 25,000 mile plan-ahead award, they end up way ahead.
My two cents worth.
[This message has been edited by burgerwars (edited Feb 07, 2004).]

