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BlondeBomber,

What a work of art! I'm sure all of us thank you. Air Canada certainly knows how to treat its SuperElites.

Some additions for UA:

-- Under "1K", you have listed "confirmable companion upgrade." If this means that your companion is accorded the same upgrade privilege as the 1K member; i.e., can upgrade 100 hours before flight, then I understand. This also applies to Premier and Premier Executive.

-- Premier Executives can change flight times domestically on the same day without penalty as long as they keep the same routing. This is an "unpublished" benefit.

-- 1K's can change flight times and routings domestically on the same day without penalty. This is an "unpublished" benefit.

[Note: if you're traveling with a companion you're out of luck, as UA will not change the companion's routing, only the 1K's.]

thank you BlondeBomber - once more.

and thank you QuietLyon for those UA-details.

- 1K's can change flight times and routings domestically on the same day without penalty. This is an "unpublished" benefit.

The 1K desk does not generally folllow that policy. I always have to try to have a supervisor waive the $75 fee if I change routing (usually I get stuck with it). I often book flights through DEN for $ reasons but try and change through ORD for comfort reasons.

I would like the MS Word version please. [email protected]

Thanks!

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Thanks everyone, the latest version was posted at 9:40 AM MST and includes Austman's, Quietlion's, AnnaS's and AuH20's helpful comments/corrections.

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On UA, I (PE) have always been able to change the date on my return flight without the $75 fee (well, 2 out of 2). I think not only is this an "unpublished" benefit, it also depends one's altitude (being friendly and polite always helps) and the person one deals with.

- Ken Lin

I have posted some new updates based on Celestar's comments re: 100% miles on Thai and no access to Gold lounges for LH Frequent Traveller (only Senator) to:

members.home.net/deercroft/starall.html

Celestar has also indicated he has some info on Thai and Ansett. We might break this into top and next lowest tier on separate pages if we get all the Star Alliance airlines on here!

Thanks again everyone.

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auh20-
I've had no problems changing routing/times when I go into the RCC and have them make the changes. I do the same thing you are doing to take advantage of the pricing differences. Another way to try is to ask them to put you on the standby list. As a 1K you will almost always be at the top. Admittedly this carries some risk. However, last year I did this a number of times successfully.

Thanks for the chart Blonde Bomber et al.
A few additions for the Lufthansa section.

1) Lounge Access - Senator also can access SAS RVC Gold Lounge. Other STAR Alliance Gold cards only access the EuroClass lounges.
Frequent Traveller do have access to RCC with same-day UA ticket and SAS Euroclass Lounge when flying on LH or SK between Germany and Scandanavia.

2)Miles needed for status - Frequent Traveller: 35K (non-German residents) 50K (German residents). Senator: 100K to qualify,80K to requalify (non-German residents)

3)% Bonus for Elite - none,if there is a 25% then its probably just for North American members. I've flown 180K status miles in 18months and there is no bonus.

4)Special Bonus Miles - Frequent Traveller: 10K (German residents) 7K (non-German residents). Senator: 30K (German residents) 20K (non-German residents). All on first qualifying and on requalifying each membership year.

5)Upgrade Any Fare domestic and International - Any fully paid fare ie commercial published fare. Senator: 2 One-way European upgrades can be used for 1 Intercontinental upgrade. Booklets of 4 upgrade certificates issued upon request and no miles deducted until each certificate is used - the miles are according to the standard chart and the certificates can be used as confirmable or standby upgrade and for international or domestic travel.

6)Minimum Miles - 1000 everywhere except flights under 500m within Scandanavia on SAS, 500m domestic on Air Canada (1000 on all other AC flights including To USA), 500m all TG flights, 500m LH domestic flights and short-haul flights to Eastern European countries.So basically, except on TG and LH Germany to East Europe flights all international flights are 1000m minimum while domestic flights are 500 m minimum except UA and Varig which are always 1000m. Ansett and Air NZ I have no idea about at present - they probably don't know themselves. I know its complicated but I didn't design the program.

7)Equivalence of Awards - 50% off companion awards only for Senator not Frequent Traveller

8)Other Bonuses - Senator: 40kg baggage allowance,First Class check-in when flying economy. Frequent Traveller: 1st class baggage allowance, Business class check-in.
BothSenator and FT: benefits at partner hotels eg guaranteed LH corporate rates at Hilton,Inter-Continental,Marriott and Sheraton, upgrade at Inter-Continental,Kempinski and Ramada,late check-out Hilton,Holiday Inn (2pm), Inter-Continental (4pm), Kempinski,Ramada (3pm) and Marriott (3pm)

9)Other Minuses - awards for immediate family only but can be for anyone if they travel with the M+M member - no difference with status though.

Sorry about the length but I'm sure you can distill out the essentials.

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BlondeBomber: Trying to find out how Air New Zealand qualifying levels will change after 28 March (day NZ and AN oficially become members) seems to be extremely difficult.

At the moment it goes something like this:

Qualifying period: 1 November to 31 October

Jade: entry level

Silver: 18000 points or 20 international flights or 50 domestic flights

Gold: 28000 points or 30 international flights or 75 domestic flights
Gold includes complimentary membership to Koru Club, which has reciprocal lounge access with all Star partners.

For those unfamiliar with the points system used, 10K pts=J class AKL-LHR return

Will update as more infor comes to hand

Rudi: note 3544quebec's post on % LH Bonus for Elite flyers. To whom does this % apply to? We presume it at least applies to non-German European members still.

3544quebec's post: none,if there is a 25% then its probably just for North American members. I've flown 180K status miles in 18months and there is no bonus.

3544quebec: I presume you are based in Australia based on e-mail address? (perhaps everyone else gets this but not those down under?) Anyone else get their bonus (Celestar? Rudi?) and where are you based?

Gekko: Thanks, before committing it to the chart, I will wait until the new scheme is unveiled, in case they have gone to a radically different point structure that is more in line with other Star Alliance partners -- keep us posted!

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I doubt if its just Australians that are so discriminated against. In none of the senator or Frequent Traveller booklets I've been sent is there any mention of this. I doubt very much that Miles and More publish seperate stuff for Australians. I mean we are not even an on-line LH country - no local webpage or anything.


PS Sorry BB but I keep editing my last post as I find another bit of info re M+M - I'm "autumn cleaning" at the moment so I'm uncovering all sorts of stuff.
By the way do you want any Ansett information or are you going to have a rest? Personally I think Ansett will change a lot of its elite qualifying stuff over the next month or 2 eg At the moment you can get top tier status with just 75000 domestic Australian points (kilometres and class of service bonus) but you need 300000 international points for the same status.

Thanks 3544quebec, I have posted changes to website. I will wait on Ansett NZ until programs officially launched. Celestar and Gekko have also agreed to help on other programs like Ansett, Thai, NZ. Greatly appreciate the help.

BlondeBomber: looking at my LH-account, and into the miles&more guide (online):

Rudi: note 3544quebec's post on % LH Bonus for Elite flyers. To whom does this % apply to? We presume it at least applies to non-German European members still. NO BONUS% ON FLIGHTS AS FF OR AS SENATOR, ONLY BONUS FOR REACHING FF LEVEL (7'000 NON-GERMAN / 10'000 GERMAN) AND SENATOR (20'000 NON-GERMAN / 30'000 GERMAN). IT MAY BE DIFFERENT FOR US-BASED-LH-PROGRAM-MEMBERS (25%)?

I AM BASED IN ZUERICH, SWITZERLAND, 33 KM (18 MILES) FROM THE GERMAN BOARDER.

Just a picky question of semantics I know but you have to be careful Blonde Bomber when you write something like "I will wait on Ansett NZ until programs officially launched"
The other New Zealand domestic airline besides Air New Zealand is called Ansett NZ and its actually affiliated with (?now owned by) QANTAS not Ansett Australia. Now if that's not designed to confuse I don't know what is!! - the result of Air New Zealand buying 50% of Ansett Australia and the Competition watchdogs not being thrilled that Air New Zealand would own 100% of one and 50% of the only other NZ domestic carrier.