How many miles? (conclusion)
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How many miles? (conclusion)
I've posted a question in several forums about the quantity of miles needed for an award ticket from Portugal (or European countries without major hubs) to some world key destinations.
It was my purpose to somehow give a contribution to the hard decision on what to choose, American or European FFP:
American Airlines / British Airways
Continental Airlines / KLM
Delta Airlines / Air France
United Airlines / Lufthansa.
Having in consideration:
1 - Always choose best offer (off-peak tickets, flysmart, mini-miles, ...);
2 - Count, for an award ticket, the biggest zone crossed;
3 - Award tickets on partner airlines when that airline doesn't fly from LIS,
4 - Award to use in just one airline.
Here are the results till now:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum71/HTML/012022.html
With AA miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 20.000 on Swiss,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 20.000 on Swiss,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 40.000 on Swiss,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 90.000 on OneWorld,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 50.000 on Iberia,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 120.000 on OneWorld.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum15/HTML/002559.html
With BA miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 24.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 28.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 40.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 56.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 56.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 64.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum21/HTML/007687.html
With Delta Airlines miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 25.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 80.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 80.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 80.000 on Air France.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum6/HTML/000467.html
With Air France miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 30.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 80.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 80.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 80.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/006401.html
With Continental Airlines miles (Continental Airlines rewards include rewards on Continental Express, Continental Micronesia, Northwest, Northwest Airlink, KLM, Copa, Alaska, Horizon, Gulfstream International, American Eagle, CommutAir, Air Europa, British European (flyBE.), Emirates, Azteca and Amtrak.):
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 90.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 60.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 80.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum28/HTML/000976.html
With KLM miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 85.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 100.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 120.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum50/HTML/014906.html
With United Airlines miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 40.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 50.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 70.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 70.000 on Varig,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 90.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = Can't get there?.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum32/HTML/001996.html
With Lufthasa miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 20.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 20.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 55.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 75.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 75.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = Can't get there?
I'll try to achieve a similar work on the matter of upgrades on miles.
I hope it can be useful to somebody out there.
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rucas0
It was my purpose to somehow give a contribution to the hard decision on what to choose, American or European FFP:
American Airlines / British Airways
Continental Airlines / KLM
Delta Airlines / Air France
United Airlines / Lufthansa.
Having in consideration:
1 - Always choose best offer (off-peak tickets, flysmart, mini-miles, ...);
2 - Count, for an award ticket, the biggest zone crossed;
3 - Award tickets on partner airlines when that airline doesn't fly from LIS,
4 - Award to use in just one airline.
Here are the results till now:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum71/HTML/012022.html
With AA miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 20.000 on Swiss,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 20.000 on Swiss,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 40.000 on Swiss,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 90.000 on OneWorld,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 50.000 on Iberia,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 120.000 on OneWorld.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum15/HTML/002559.html
With BA miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 24.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 28.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 40.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 56.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 56.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 64.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum21/HTML/007687.html
With Delta Airlines miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 25.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 80.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 80.000 on Air France,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 80.000 on Air France.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum6/HTML/000467.html
With Air France miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 30.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 80.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 80.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 80.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum20/HTML/006401.html
With Continental Airlines miles (Continental Airlines rewards include rewards on Continental Express, Continental Micronesia, Northwest, Northwest Airlink, KLM, Copa, Alaska, Horizon, Gulfstream International, American Eagle, CommutAir, Air Europa, British European (flyBE.), Emirates, Azteca and Amtrak.):
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 90.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 60.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 80.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum28/HTML/000976.html
With KLM miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 25.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 50.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 85.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 100.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = 120.000.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum50/HTML/014906.html
With United Airlines miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 40.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 50.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 70.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 70.000 on Varig,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 90.000 on Lufthansa,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = Can't get there?.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum32/HTML/001996.html
With Lufthasa miles:
Portugal (LIS) - France (PAR) = 20.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Greece (ATH) = 20.000,
Portugal (LIS) - USA (JFK) = 55.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Brazil (RIO) = 75.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Japan (TYO) = 75.000,
Portugal (LIS) - Australia (SYD) = Can't get there?
I'll try to achieve a similar work on the matter of upgrades on miles.
I hope it can be useful to somebody out there.
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rucas0

