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200,000 AMEX MR Points = 2 Concorde RT

200,000 AMEX MR Points = 2 Concorde RT

Old Sep 2, 02, 12:49 am
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200,000 AMEX MR Points = 2 Concorde RT

This seems to work:

Until Sept. 30th AMEX is allowing conversion of 1,000 MR points to 500 Starwood points, this is 50% more than usual. With this in mind do as follows:

1. Convert 200,000 AMEX MR points to 100,000 Starwood points.

2. Convert 100,000 Starwood points into 250,000 Qantas points. Note: Starwood throws in 5,000 Starwood points for every 20,000 Starwood points you convert.

3. This should add up to 250,000 Qantas points which can be used to get 2 BA 1st class awards, also usable for Concorde RT JFK-LHR.
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Old Sep 2, 02, 3:19 am
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Is this a specific reward on Qantas that requires 250k for 2 Concorde tickets? Or can you do 100k AmEx MR for 1 ticket?
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Old Sep 2, 02, 3:52 am
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Remember, the QF award allows not only JFK-LHR, but indeed on BA metal it allows one to fly to pretty well ANYWHERE in Europe or North Africa that BA services.

The actual First Class award IIRC cover 10,000 miles of flying of your choice. If transatlantic to LHR is Concorde both ways, then you go Business class to St. Petersberg, or Morocco or wherever.

We did the Concorde flights in May using QF points. A great experience. Go for it.

(n.b. - in hindsight we would have done Concorde one way, and BA 747 sleeper bed First Class the other.)

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Old Sep 2, 02, 7:41 am
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I suggested this as 2 tickets because I'm not sure how Starwood would handle moving 50,000 Starwood points. As far as I know they only throw in 5,000 points for every 20,000 points you move, no proration. If that's the case, you'll get 120,000 Qantas points for 50,000 Starwood points, short 5,000 Qantas points.

It seems to me that for a single ticket you would have to exchange 55,000 AMEX points which convert to 27,500 Starwood points which then convert to 125,000 Qantas points.
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Old Sep 2, 02, 10:13 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by semjeito:
As far as I know they only throw in 5,000 points for every 20,000 points you move, no proration. If that's the case, you'll get 120,000 Qantas points for 50,000 Starwood points, short 5,000 Qantas points.

It seems to me that for a single ticket you would have to exchange 55,000 AMEX points which convert to 27,500 Starwood points which then convert to 125,000 Qantas points.
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I'm about to do the same thing with 40000 Amex points.

You are correct that Starwood only give you a free 5000 points per 20000 SPG you transfer, or complete multiples of 20000. If you tansfer 55,000 Amex rewards to SPG you would get 27,500 SPG.

Add the free 5000 at the time of transfer (32,500 total) and you would get a rate of 1:1 for UA & AA. QF gives a rate of 2:1 so your 27,500 SPG points become 65,000 QF points !!!

Hope this helps.

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Old Sep 2, 02, 3:00 pm
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Oops !!! Someday I'll learn how to count.

What I meant to say regarding one ticket is that you would take 105,000 AMEX MR points which convert to 52,500 Starwood points. Then convert those to 105,000 Qantas points. Starwood will throw in 10,000 Starwood points which convert to 20,000 Qantas points and voila !!! You've got 125,000 Qantas points.

Sorry for the earlier mistake.
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Old Sep 2, 02, 9:55 pm
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Wow.. I've been REALLY bad about paying my amex card while travelling.. so I called amex.. they found 60000 MR points I could reinstate.. (I said REALLY bad).. add that to the 40000 in my account and I'm almost there for the free ticket..

Thats TOO cool.. thanks.. All I have to do now is find some other way to get another concorde ticket.. maybe there'll be another magazine special

**** .. I could REALLY fly concorde this year.. TOO cool... As an AA flyer with over 300000 miles that are worthless for BA transatlantic this was an excellent opportunity..


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Old Sep 3, 02, 8:26 am
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i am in the uk & have 125000 points on my amex platinum card.
can some one tell me if & how do i change them to get concord or first class tickets?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by miles from tesco:
i am in the uk & have 125000 points on my amex platinum card.
can some one tell me if & how do i change them to get concorde or first class tickets?
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OK

1. You need to have a *wood Preferred Guest account number. You can get this @ http://www.starwood.com/preferredguest/index.html

1. You need to have Amex show Starwood Preferred Guest as one of your Frequent Traveller Programme - can be done on-line or by phone.

2. The Amex website says that you need to have stayed @ a *wood hotel in the last 12 months (not sure how true this is) to qualify to transfer.

3. Amex will then transfer the 125,000 points to SPG, giving you 62500 SPG points.

4. You can then transfer these to any airline, but QF gives you the best return (2:1).

As I said earlier in this thread, when you transfer them, *wood will add another 15,000 points to your total (5k for every 20k you transfer). Your total is then 77,500.

If you transfer this to BA or AA you'd get a 1:1 transfer rate, but QF gives you 2:1, so you'd end up with 155,000 Qantas points.

To get 10,000 miles on BA metal, First Class, you need 125,000 QF points so you have more than enough for this.

This is more than enough for a Concorde return to JFK + another FC or BC flight with the balance.

Hope this helps

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Old Sep 4, 02, 10:46 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DP-UK:

2. The Amex website says that you need to have stayed @ a *wood hotel in the last 12 months (not sure how true this is) to qualify to transfer.
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SPG have clarified the position on the minimum stay requirement for me. Information is @ http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum69/HTML/001294.html
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Old Sep 4, 02, 2:52 pm
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Can anyone think of a way to use USAir miles for Concorde tickets?
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Old Sep 4, 02, 5:48 pm
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While this is a good way to get on the Concorde:

1. QF has a more expensive award redemption schedule than many other airlins, including OW;

2. Transfering miles to other obscure AMEX partners can get you good FC int'l rewards...

Food for thought.
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Old Sep 4, 02, 8:20 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by miles from tesco:

i am in the uk & have 125000 points on my amex platinum card.
can some one tell me if & how do i change them to get concord or first class tickets?

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Check the SPG forum - there were heaps of folks that could comp you instantly to Gold SPG, AND earn you both points too IIRC.



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Old Sep 9, 02, 2:26 pm
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If one doesn't have a Qantas account, is it easy to set one up, transfer miles, and redeem an award without ever taking a flight?

How tough is snagging award tickets on BA JFK-LHR?

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Old Sep 9, 02, 8:56 pm
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Just a caution: if you need to make any changes to your flights after the ticket has been issued, you can only "pay" for the changes with QF miles. So keep this in mind when transferring and setting your flight dates. If you don't want to convert any more than the minimum needed for each Concorde ticket, consider having a few of your hotel stays at other properties put into your new QF account. Hilton stays earn 1500 per stay, which is three times what double dipping with US carriers yields.
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