'Duplicate' Reservations -1984
Sep 17, 2002 | 7:30 am
#16
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Why are you shocked that airline share your travel information with each other?
Your credit report is an example of many disparate financial institutions sharing information. Practically anyone can request your credit report, if provided with some basic information like your SSN.
The airlines benefit from sharing a database, and your privacy concerns aren't nearly as important to them as profitability from data mining.
Your credit report is an example of many disparate financial institutions sharing information. Practically anyone can request your credit report, if provided with some basic information like your SSN.
The airlines benefit from sharing a database, and your privacy concerns aren't nearly as important to them as profitability from data mining.
Sep 17, 2002 | 9:06 am
#17
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I would have thought that the airlines would *not* be keen on sharing data on customers.
e.g. Does UA really want AA to know how often I fly SFO-BOS (and the fare basis for those trips)? AA could then decide to do a targeted mailing to me touting their flights on that route including MRTC and powerports in coach.
That's just one example...I can think of many more nefarious...
e.g. Does UA really want AA to know how often I fly SFO-BOS (and the fare basis for those trips)? AA could then decide to do a targeted mailing to me touting their flights on that route including MRTC and powerports in coach.
That's just one example...I can think of many more nefarious...
Sep 17, 2002 | 11:09 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BlatheringPenguin:
I would have thought that the airlines would *not* be keen on sharing data on customers.
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I would have thought that the airlines would *not* be keen on sharing data on customers.
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Sep 17, 2002 | 10:15 pm
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Maybee it's just because you have such a unique name. After all how many fuzzywzzys can there be out there. I only know one other one.
Seriously thought, I was in the library last week listning to a librarian in dismay over her inability to legally discuss a 6 year old childs library card with his parent. The librarian asked for the childs permission and the child repeatedly said no. Seems there is a recent law giving kids privacy incase they are reading books they don't want their parents to know about.
Surely we have some kind of simular protections.
Seriously thought, I was in the library last week listning to a librarian in dismay over her inability to legally discuss a 6 year old childs library card with his parent. The librarian asked for the childs permission and the child repeatedly said no. Seems there is a recent law giving kids privacy incase they are reading books they don't want their parents to know about.
Surely we have some kind of simular protections.
Sep 18, 2002 | 12:00 am
#21
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most likely your FF # was entered and when EXP pulled up your record because you called
in and said your advantage number.
that is where they can see everything you are doing.
next time, say AGENT and deal with one res at a time, hang up and call back.
Back in the day, AA couldnt see your res unless a AA segment was booked.
NOW with Etkt interlining the link is built.
All the airlines are trying to get 100 percent Etkt interlining and then information will be avail on all levels.
in and said your advantage number.
that is where they can see everything you are doing.
next time, say AGENT and deal with one res at a time, hang up and call back.
Back in the day, AA couldnt see your res unless a AA segment was booked.
NOW with Etkt interlining the link is built.
All the airlines are trying to get 100 percent Etkt interlining and then information will be avail on all levels.
Sep 19, 2002 | 2:33 pm
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This makes sense to me, that since airlines are now accepting each others' e-tickets in the event of flight irregularities that they now have the abilitity to look at each other's passenger records in order to confirm that e-tickets are valid.
This could have dire consequences for booking back-to-back tickets. In the past, you only got caught if you were using the same airline. Then, when alliances and code-sharing came along, you had to make sure that the two bookings were with airlines that had no overlap. Now, it make no longer be possible to do risk free back-to-back bookings.
This could have dire consequences for booking back-to-back tickets. In the past, you only got caught if you were using the same airline. Then, when alliances and code-sharing came along, you had to make sure that the two bookings were with airlines that had no overlap. Now, it make no longer be possible to do risk free back-to-back bookings.
Sep 19, 2002 | 3:27 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BlatheringPenguin:
I would have thought that the airlines would *not* be keen on sharing data on customers.
e.g. Does UA really want AA to know how often I fly SFO-BOS (and the fare basis for those trips)? AA could then decide to do a targeted mailing to me touting their flights on that route including MRTC and powerports in coach.
That's just one example...I can think of many more nefarious...</font>
I would have thought that the airlines would *not* be keen on sharing data on customers.
e.g. Does UA really want AA to know how often I fly SFO-BOS (and the fare basis for those trips)? AA could then decide to do a targeted mailing to me touting their flights on that route including MRTC and powerports in coach.
That's just one example...I can think of many more nefarious...</font>
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Sep 19, 2002 | 4:00 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by amanuensis:
This could have dire consequences for booking back-to-back tickets. In the past, you only got caught if you were using the same airline. Then, when alliances and code-sharing came along, you had to make sure that the two bookings were with airlines that had no overlap. Now, it make no longer be possible to do risk free back-to-back bookings.</font>
This could have dire consequences for booking back-to-back tickets. In the past, you only got caught if you were using the same airline. Then, when alliances and code-sharing came along, you had to make sure that the two bookings were with airlines that had no overlap. Now, it make no longer be possible to do risk free back-to-back bookings.</font>
Sep 19, 2002 | 8:47 pm
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jcrb, what you are saying may be true, but there is also no obligation for an airline to let you participate in their FFP. I've never wanted to push the envelope because I have been afraid that if I get an airline annoyed with me it will do BAD THINGS to my mileage balance.
Sep 20, 2002 | 8:35 am
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Would make for an interesting lawsuit if the airlines tried to pull off anything based upon services acquired by a 'competitor'.
Can you imagine the lawyer presenting the rational for the back-to-back or Saturday night stay restrictions? Add in the '1984-ish' admonishment for securing flight services on a competing airline. I would love to see the jury of my peers blast them.
(taking a little pleasure out of this unacceptable airline behavior)
Can you imagine the lawyer presenting the rational for the back-to-back or Saturday night stay restrictions? Add in the '1984-ish' admonishment for securing flight services on a competing airline. I would love to see the jury of my peers blast them.
(taking a little pleasure out of this unacceptable airline behavior)