Would the Gov't really tell us if the crash WAS an attack?
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Would the Gov't really tell us if the crash WAS an attack?
First and foremost my thoughts and prayers are for the victims of this terrible crash.
AND - Isn't there a LOT to lose for a LOT of people if the AA crash was some kind of sabotage? If it was an attack (sabotage type thing) it would certainly ground a lot more people and cause more economic damage then if it turns out to be a malfunction of a part that has already had some warnings...
and if it was malfunction then only mostly AA/GE etc would be on the hook - and the gov't wouldn;t necessarily be on the hook to help the victims directly..
it's true I don;t trust the current administration but I am curious what others think...
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AND - Isn't there a LOT to lose for a LOT of people if the AA crash was some kind of sabotage? If it was an attack (sabotage type thing) it would certainly ground a lot more people and cause more economic damage then if it turns out to be a malfunction of a part that has already had some warnings...
and if it was malfunction then only mostly AA/GE etc would be on the hook - and the gov't wouldn;t necessarily be on the hook to help the victims directly..
it's true I don;t trust the current administration but I am curious what others think...
[This message has been edited by squeakr (edited 11-13-2001).]
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I fail to see why the government would even attempt to withhold the information. And, what an impossible thing to keep secret in the US, although it could happen in some other nations!
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I'm as suspicious as anyone about government (especially this one) but the idea that the real cause of the AA crash would be withheld is just not plugging into reality.
Look at it this way: There are enough competing interests to assure that no cause other than the real one will be to blame. As you mention, if it's not a deliberate act, then AA and/or GE and/or others were in error. They're not going to accept that blame and responsibility unless it's true.
I doubt a flight that lasted 107 seconds before major trouble was anything but a major mechanical or pilot error.
There are literally hundreds of people investigating this event. Let's let them do their job-I'm sure we'll have a good idea what happened in a few days.
Look at it this way: There are enough competing interests to assure that no cause other than the real one will be to blame. As you mention, if it's not a deliberate act, then AA and/or GE and/or others were in error. They're not going to accept that blame and responsibility unless it's true.
I doubt a flight that lasted 107 seconds before major trouble was anything but a major mechanical or pilot error.
There are literally hundreds of people investigating this event. Let's let them do their job-I'm sure we'll have a good idea what happened in a few days.
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squeakr - I share your contempt for the current administration. I think it is possible, although unlikely, that they would conceal this.It would help keep people flying. However, exposing it as terrorism/sabotage (if it was) would further unite the country and the international coalition. I don't think the administration would squander that opportunity.
Middle_Seat - I think you greatly under estimate our govt's ability to hide/conceal information
Middle_Seat - I think you greatly under estimate our govt's ability to hide/conceal information
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Look out for the black helicopters, they're everywhere....
Do you guys honestly think that they can keep all of the NTSB, FBI, AA, and GE people investigating this to lie about the cause? We're talking about hundreds if not thousands of people here, and like Mountain Trader said the GE and AA people have a strong financial as well as ethical disincentive to lie about it.
Get a grip guys!
Do you guys honestly think that they can keep all of the NTSB, FBI, AA, and GE people investigating this to lie about the cause? We're talking about hundreds if not thousands of people here, and like Mountain Trader said the GE and AA people have a strong financial as well as ethical disincentive to lie about it.
Get a grip guys!
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cg you are right on the money.
and for the rest of you and your 'contempt' for the current administration, let us not forget whose administration sold out national security secrets for illegal campaign contributions. buddhist temple, iced tea... ring any bells?
unlike the political hacks of the last eight years, the current government at least has a grip on reality and ethical behavior.
and for the rest of you and your 'contempt' for the current administration, let us not forget whose administration sold out national security secrets for illegal campaign contributions. buddhist temple, iced tea... ring any bells?
unlike the political hacks of the last eight years, the current government at least has a grip on reality and ethical behavior.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CG:
Look out for the black helicopters, they're everywhere....
Do you guys honestly think that they can keep all of the NTSB, FBI, AA, and GE people investigating this to lie about the cause?
Get a grip guys!</font>
Look out for the black helicopters, they're everywhere....
Do you guys honestly think that they can keep all of the NTSB, FBI, AA, and GE people investigating this to lie about the cause?
Get a grip guys!</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">We're talking about hundreds if not thousands of people here, and like Mountain Trader said the GE and AA people have a strong financial as well as ethical disincentive to lie about it.
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I don;t turn every corner looking for things to be paranoid about...I'm just throwing out scenarios that seem plausible ot me...I obviously hadn't considered the fact very well that GE/AA might resist taking thee blame..which is why I love ot hear others' opinions...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by CG:
Get a grip guys!</font>
Get a grip guys!</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by eastwest:
Sometimes I hate the press, but I have to admit that they do serve a useful purpose. I am confident that they would unearth a cover up if there was one.
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Sometimes I hate the press, but I have to admit that they do serve a useful purpose. I am confident that they would unearth a cover up if there was one.
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There is no good reason for the truth to be suppresed, whatever it is.
If it's terrorism, the government will use it to strengthen the international coalition against terrorists.
If it's an accident, AA/GE/Airbus will want to correct the problem so that this doesn't happen again.
Also, the NTSB is widely regarded for it's independence. And, Airbus's team from France is coming, so in addition to the NTSB and AA, the international team from Airbus should also help keep people honest.
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If it's terrorism, the government will use it to strengthen the international coalition against terrorists.
If it's an accident, AA/GE/Airbus will want to correct the problem so that this doesn't happen again.
Also, the NTSB is widely regarded for it's independence. And, Airbus's team from France is coming, so in addition to the NTSB and AA, the international team from Airbus should also help keep people honest.
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You are kidding, right?
Reagan couldn't keep a simple arms for hostages deal quiet. Clinton couldn't keep a simple tryst with an intern quiet.
And yet you think the government could keep evidence that an airliner crashed due to a terrorist attack quiet?
Reagan couldn't keep a simple arms for hostages deal quiet. Clinton couldn't keep a simple tryst with an intern quiet.
And yet you think the government could keep evidence that an airliner crashed due to a terrorist attack quiet?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mdtony:
You are kidding, right?
Reagan couldn't keep a simple arms for hostages deal quiet. Clinton couldn't keep a simple tryst with an intern quiet.
And yet you think the government could keep evidence that an airliner crashed due to a terrorist attack quiet?</font>
You are kidding, right?
Reagan couldn't keep a simple arms for hostages deal quiet. Clinton couldn't keep a simple tryst with an intern quiet.
And yet you think the government could keep evidence that an airliner crashed due to a terrorist attack quiet?</font>
And look I'm not even proposing that it would be from entirely evil intent. If it was seen as for the good of the airlines and for the flying public, to think this was a freak accident when it wasn;t - there are some quarters who might support such a coverup.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ender83:
and for the rest of you and your 'contempt' for the current administration, let us not forget whose administration sold out national security secrets for illegal campaign contributions. buddhist temple, iced tea... ring any bells?
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and for the rest of you and your 'contempt' for the current administration, let us not forget whose administration sold out national security secrets for illegal campaign contributions. buddhist temple, iced tea... ring any bells?
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