Best card for foreign exchange?
#1306
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There are ATM in Beijing airport but I don't remember which branch. Maybe just exchange $100 or so at the airport before you find a good ATM machine or bank.
You can find Citibank, HSBC banks in Beijing and if you have their ATM card, the exchange rate would be much better than airport and hotels.
If you have Bank of America ATM card, it can also be used with no charge on China Construction Bank ATM machine.
Credit card is widely accepted in Beijing. I would suggest Discover and Capital One. Discover is linked with a Chinese credit card network "Union Pay" and would considered as domestic charge so no fee.
You can find Citibank, HSBC banks in Beijing and if you have their ATM card, the exchange rate would be much better than airport and hotels.
If you have Bank of America ATM card, it can also be used with no charge on China Construction Bank ATM machine.
Credit card is widely accepted in Beijing. I would suggest Discover and Capital One. Discover is linked with a Chinese credit card network "Union Pay" and would considered as domestic charge so no fee.
I am going to Beijing in June arriving at 10PM. What would you all recommend as the best exchange rate to obtain rmb?
Are there ATM machines at the airport?
Do I bring US bills to exchange at the hotel or at the airport?
Do I use my capital One visa which does not appear to tack on a currency conversion charge. My Chase card does so I won't be using that.
Thanks!
Are there ATM machines at the airport?
Do I bring US bills to exchange at the hotel or at the airport?
Do I use my capital One visa which does not appear to tack on a currency conversion charge. My Chase card does so I won't be using that.
Thanks!
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#1309


Join Date: Mar 2000
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According to the WIKI, Pacific National Bank does not charge foreign exchange conversion fee. I called them 2 minutes ago and they told me indeed , there's a 1% charge.
I am not tech savvy enough to change it on the WIKI myself, can someone please correct the information?
I am not tech savvy enough to change it on the WIKI myself, can someone please correct the information?
#1310


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Has anyone used the Capitol One ATM card overseas? I know Capitol One doesn't charge the conversion fee, however, the hosting bank ATM fees are not reimbursed. How often does overseas banks' hosting ATM charges a withdrawal fee?
#1311


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According to the WIKI, Pacific National Bank does not charge foreign exchange conversion fee. I called them 2 minutes ago and they told me indeed , there's a 1% charge.
I am not tech savvy enough to change it on the WIKI myself, can someone please correct the information?
I am not tech savvy enough to change it on the WIKI myself, can someone please correct the information?
It depends on where you're going, but ATM owner fees are generally pretty rare overseas. I once encountered an ATM owner fee in Canada, but I don't think I've ever seen one (at least not on a bank ATM) in the UK, Holland, Israel, China or Hong Kong.
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-Bank of Internet refunds strange amounts as ATM fee reimbursements for non-dollar withdrawals even when there seems to be no ATM fee. In any case, their refunds are limited, but result in the best exchange rates I've ever seen anywhere (considering the amount of foreign currency received and the amount of dollars subtracted from the account).
#1313


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Thanks for the information on Charles Schwab. I called them and did confirm what you said, that they do not charge any conversion fees and any transaction fees with other banks will be reimbursed.
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
I heard that Citi is now charging 3% FX fee on all exchanges processed in a foreign country, even if the transaction is in dollars. This would apply in BVI, where the legal currency is US dollars. Others have reported that they get conflicting answers from Citi customer service. Does anyone have a definitive answer?
I heard that Citi is now charging 3% FX fee on all exchanges processed in a foreign country, even if the transaction is in dollars. This would apply in BVI, where the legal currency is US dollars. Others have reported that they get conflicting answers from Citi customer service. Does anyone have a definitive answer?
My CitiCard credit cards (AA miles-earning MasterCard and VISA) T&Cs still talk about charges only when converting transactions into US dollars from a "foreign" currency. I have not been charged any extra fee for dollar-denominated credit card (purchase) transactions using those cards outside the US.
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For the last couple of weeks I've been receiving letters from Citibank changing the terms of my (numerous) Citi credit cards. They all include this sentence (emphases as they appear in the letter):
Transaction Fee for Foreign Purchases. We add a fee of 3% of the U.S. dollar amount of each purchase made outside the U.S., whether made in U.S. dollars or in a foreign currency. This fee is a FINANCE CHARGE.
#1316
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Another vote for Capital One, but they are very stingy with credit limit increases (especially as I never use it anymore).
AmEx (directly, not through another bank) charges 2% (on mine in anycase). Most all other big banks charge 3%.
AmEx (directly, not through another bank) charges 2% (on mine in anycase). Most all other big banks charge 3%.
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#1318
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You are mostly, but not entirely, correct.
If you haven't been following this thread in all its insane bloat, before posting a question or comment PLEASE consult the Summary and FAQ we have posted on flyerguide. It already addresses 90% of the questions and answers in this thread.
If you haven't been following this thread in all its insane bloat, before posting a question or comment PLEASE consult the Summary and FAQ we have posted on flyerguide. It already addresses 90% of the questions and answers in this thread.
I know the flyerguide wiki is a good resource, but unless people update and peer review constantly, some of the information is dated or not complete either.
#1319


Join Date: Jul 2001
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Please confirm about debit cards
On another board, there have been some categorical statements that Visa/MC-branded debit cards do not work for purchases outside the country where they were issued. Since there's a section about them on the wiki, can I take it that at least some can be used? The section's small, but that may be because there isn't much incentive to use them other than taking a lower percentage than one's credit card. So do the recent "Confirmed" dates mean that they've actually been used for purchases? Does this include U.S. cards in Italy?
#1320


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There are a few of us who follow changes to the wiki pretty closely to try to keep it current and consistent with new information that comes to light in this thread and elsewhere. Lately we've been trying to add more detail about when specific information was last confirmed, and many popular cards like CapOne get reconfirmed almost monthly.
Sorry if I sounded snippy. It's just tough to keep people pointed at the wiki when they keep posting the same stuff over and over in this thread (there are probably a hundred posts in this thread about how CapOne is 0%, Amex personal cards are 2% and most others are 3%). And thanks for your input. ^

