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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 7:55 pm
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There are ATM in Beijing airport but I don't remember which branch. Maybe just exchange $100 or so at the airport before you find a good ATM machine or bank.

You can find Citibank, HSBC banks in Beijing and if you have their ATM card, the exchange rate would be much better than airport and hotels.

If you have Bank of America ATM card, it can also be used with no charge on China Construction Bank ATM machine.

Credit card is widely accepted in Beijing. I would suggest Discover and Capital One. Discover is linked with a Chinese credit card network "Union Pay" and would considered as domestic charge so no fee.

Originally Posted by whomeyesyou
I am going to Beijing in June arriving at 10PM. What would you all recommend as the best exchange rate to obtain rmb?

Are there ATM machines at the airport?

Do I bring US bills to exchange at the hotel or at the airport?

Do I use my capital One visa which does not appear to tack on a currency conversion charge. My Chase card does so I won't be using that.

Thanks!
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 8:52 am
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If you haven't been following this thread in all its insane bloat, before posting a question or comment PLEASE consult the Summary and FAQ we have posted on flyerguide. It already addresses 90% of the questions and answers in this thread.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
Thanks - now I will start using the Capital One card. Greedy move on Citi's behalf - charging an fx fee when there is NO exchange!
Silly question - I thought this was talking about ATM fees - doesn't Capital One charge a 3% cash advance fee + interest?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 2:40 pm
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According to the WIKI, Pacific National Bank does not charge foreign exchange conversion fee. I called them 2 minutes ago and they told me indeed , there's a 1% charge.
I am not tech savvy enough to change it on the WIKI myself, can someone please correct the information?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 3:05 pm
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Has anyone used the Capitol One ATM card overseas? I know Capitol One doesn't charge the conversion fee, however, the hosting bank ATM fees are not reimbursed. How often does overseas banks' hosting ATM charges a withdrawal fee?
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by lavedder
According to the WIKI, Pacific National Bank does not charge foreign exchange conversion fee. I called them 2 minutes ago and they told me indeed , there's a 1% charge.
I am not tech savvy enough to change it on the WIKI myself, can someone please correct the information?
Done.

Originally Posted by lavedder
Has anyone used the Capitol One ATM card overseas? I know Capitol One doesn't charge the conversion fee, however, the hosting bank ATM fees are not reimbursed. How often does overseas banks' hosting ATM charges a withdrawal fee?
It depends on where you're going, but ATM owner fees are generally pretty rare overseas. I once encountered an ATM owner fee in Canada, but I don't think I've ever seen one (at least not on a bank ATM) in the UK, Holland, Israel, China or Hong Kong.
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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by lavedder
Has anyone used the Capitol One ATM card overseas? I know Capitol One doesn't charge the conversion fee, however, the hosting bank ATM fees are not reimbursed. How often does overseas banks' hosting ATM charges a withdrawal fee?
-Charles Schwab Bank also has zero conversion fee for their VISA ATM card and they do refund unlimited ATM fees.

-Bank of Internet refunds strange amounts as ATM fee reimbursements for non-dollar withdrawals even when there seems to be no ATM fee. In any case, their refunds are limited, but result in the best exchange rates I've ever seen anywhere (considering the amount of foreign currency received and the amount of dollars subtracted from the account).
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 10:56 am
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Thanks for the information on Charles Schwab. I called them and did confirm what you said, that they do not charge any conversion fees and any transaction fees with other banks will be reimbursed.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
I heard that Citi is now charging 3% FX fee on all exchanges processed in a foreign country, even if the transaction is in dollars. This would apply in BVI, where the legal currency is US dollars. Others have reported that they get conflicting answers from Citi customer service. Does anyone have a definitive answer?
Originally Posted by Viajero Perpetuo
That link seems to be talking about the "Citibank Banking Card". I believe these are the cards attached to bank accounts offered by CitiBank (when you open one of those bank accounts, they issue you a debit-type card you can use to withdraw money from the account through an ATM).

My CitiCard credit cards (AA miles-earning MasterCard and VISA) T&Cs still talk about charges only when converting transactions into US dollars from a "foreign" currency. I have not been charged any extra fee for dollar-denominated credit card (purchase) transactions using those cards outside the US.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 6:32 am
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For the last couple of weeks I've been receiving letters from Citibank changing the terms of my (numerous) Citi credit cards. They all include this sentence (emphases as they appear in the letter):
Transaction Fee for Foreign Purchases. We add a fee of 3% of the U.S. dollar amount of each purchase made outside the U.S., whether made in U.S. dollars or in a foreign currency. This fee is a FINANCE CHARGE.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 7:41 am
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Another vote for Capital One, but they are very stingy with credit limit increases (especially as I never use it anymore).

AmEx (directly, not through another bank) charges 2% (on mine in anycase). Most all other big banks charge 3%.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by jakuda
Another vote for Capital One, but they are very stingy with credit limit increases (especially as I never use it anymore).

AmEx (directly, not through another bank) charges 2% (on mine in anycase). Most all other big banks charge 3%.
You are mostly, but not entirely, correct.

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Old May 7, 2008 | 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by themicah
You are mostly, but not entirely, correct.

If you haven't been following this thread in all its insane bloat, before posting a question or comment PLEASE consult the Summary and FAQ we have posted on flyerguide. It already addresses 90% of the questions and answers in this thread.
Not being argumentative, but what did I post that was not correct?

I know the flyerguide wiki is a good resource, but unless people update and peer review constantly, some of the information is dated or not complete either.
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Old May 7, 2008 | 9:56 pm
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Please confirm about debit cards

On another board, there have been some categorical statements that Visa/MC-branded debit cards do not work for purchases outside the country where they were issued. Since there's a section about them on the wiki, can I take it that at least some can be used? The section's small, but that may be because there isn't much incentive to use them other than taking a lower percentage than one's credit card. So do the recent "Confirmed" dates mean that they've actually been used for purchases? Does this include U.S. cards in Italy?
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Old May 8, 2008 | 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by jakuda
Not being argumentative, but what did I post that was not correct?

I know the flyerguide wiki is a good resource, but unless people update and peer review constantly, some of the information is dated or not complete either.
You said all Amex cards are 2%, when in fact the only ones that are 2% are Amex-issued personal cards. Amex-issued corporate cards are 2.5% and Amex-network cards issued by other banks usually have different fees. For example, the Citi Chairman card is 0%, while other Citi-issued and BofA-issued Amex cards are almost all 3%.

There are a few of us who follow changes to the wiki pretty closely to try to keep it current and consistent with new information that comes to light in this thread and elsewhere. Lately we've been trying to add more detail about when specific information was last confirmed, and many popular cards like CapOne get reconfirmed almost monthly.

Sorry if I sounded snippy. It's just tough to keep people pointed at the wiki when they keep posting the same stuff over and over in this thread (there are probably a hundred posts in this thread about how CapOne is 0%, Amex personal cards are 2% and most others are 3%). And thanks for your input. ^
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