Best card for foreign exchange?
#286
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Originally Posted by themicah
Visa and MC both charge 1%
Right now it seems Capital One and Target are the leading contenders for ForEx purchases, and AmEx for USD transactions overseas.
Right now it seems Capital One and Target are the leading contenders for ForEx purchases, and AmEx for USD transactions overseas.
One purchase
Seems like they might be the only one not penalizing us for Euro purchases. A purchase on June 2 of 45 Euro was billed at USD 55.12, or about 1.225. A purchase the next day was exchanged at around 1.228.
#287
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Do you have MC or VISA branded Capital One CC ?
MC branded should be free till October 1st; VISA should be 1%.
MC branded should be free till October 1st; VISA should be 1%.
#288




Join Date: May 2000
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Let's face it: we're screwed on this. There's essentially NO way to avoid the ripoff fees (20 pages of discussion....) ----ANYBODY with CONCRETE suggestions for a Credit Union Card anybody can get without the fees can chime in right here, rather than supply generalities--- and we're going to have to crank up the outrage if we want to get this reversed..........
What we've seen in the press (all over this issue) has been ineffective in shaming them into competing on this fee: they're clearly all *colluding* and grabbing the cash they can get...... WE NEED A CARD WHICH EVERYONE CAN GET WHICH DOESN'T CHARGE THIS FEE. THEN WE NEED TO GET ONE, EN MASSE. That's the only way to break new ground on this issue.
C'mon: somebody out there at a University: you've got a credit union that welcomes members, which doesn't charge the fee,right? Can you name one, so we can avoid this fee????? ANYONE???????
What we've seen in the press (all over this issue) has been ineffective in shaming them into competing on this fee: they're clearly all *colluding* and grabbing the cash they can get...... WE NEED A CARD WHICH EVERYONE CAN GET WHICH DOESN'T CHARGE THIS FEE. THEN WE NEED TO GET ONE, EN MASSE. That's the only way to break new ground on this issue.
C'mon: somebody out there at a University: you've got a credit union that welcomes members, which doesn't charge the fee,right? Can you name one, so we can avoid this fee????? ANYONE???????
#289
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Originally Posted by SST
C'mon: somebody out there at a University: you've got a credit union that welcomes members, which doesn't charge the fee,right? Can you name one, so we can avoid this fee????? ANYONE???????
The issue with credit unions is that they must have eligibility restrictions. So you won't really find a credit union that will take anyone. I think the closest you'll find is the Pentagon FCU which has very lax restrictions. #10 on the possible eligibility requirements is to join the National Military Family Association ($20/yr). I don't know what their forex policy is though.
#290




Join Date: May 2000
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My complaint is simply the "additional" unearned fees these pikers have decided we can be stuck with. So, no, the original 1% fee, which has been in place for many years, isn't the problem. This new fee is nothing but a ripoff. And all the widely-available cards (MBNA Amtrak, Diners, etc.) that hadn't adopted the ripoff have now fallen in line. All I've heard here is relatively nonspecific recommendations; that's my complaint.
Not being one to just complain, I DID CONTACT MY OWN ALMA MATER'S CREDIT UNION to determine their policy and intent. *SO* for the use of all FlyerTalkers who might have at one time worked for, attended, (graduated?), lived near, or known some family member who has some relationship with MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY (this group is a few million people; it's a big place), the MSU Federal Credit Union, which is one of the nation's large credit unions, offers VISA cards without anything but the 1% Visa fee.
I reprint below my edited contact:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr. SST:
Thank you for your e-mail. MSUFCU has no plans to do more than pass the
Visa fee on to users. We actually take great pride in the fact that we do
not charge an additional percentage as many financial institutions are
doing.
You can apply for a Visa Credit card by calling our Loan Department at
800-678-4968.
If you have any further questions or if there is anything else we can do for
you please let us know. Thank you and have a great day!
Sincerely,
(Loan Officer, MSUFCU)
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I will be calling them later this morning and getting a card, and MBNA's card can be relinquished.
I CHALLENGE OTHERS WHO HAVE THIS TYPE OF SPECIFIC ADVICE AND CAN BACK IT UP WITH REPRINTED DOCUMENTATION TO SHARE IT HERE, SO THAT NO FLYERTALKER NEED PAY THE RIPOFF 2% ADD-ON FEE. WE MAY ALL HAVE AN OPTION. WE NEED TO EMPOWER OUR FRIENDS. I guess I'd say "Friends don't let friends give away money to big banks acting as monopolists".
(If it's too much trouble for you to get yet another card, or you value your points over your money, that's perfectly OK, and rational I guess. But let's give people the specific tools they need to fight this. Like airline fare-hikes, collusion is rampant, but many attempts fail because the intended victims won't buy the goods, and if one company or another cracks, we can go back to earning overseas points without getting charged 2% to do so. But they won't bend if you just accept it and pay.)
[Edited to say: "No, I'm not in any way connected with MSUFCU other than being a member with a pint-sized account I've had open for 20 years"]
Not being one to just complain, I DID CONTACT MY OWN ALMA MATER'S CREDIT UNION to determine their policy and intent. *SO* for the use of all FlyerTalkers who might have at one time worked for, attended, (graduated?), lived near, or known some family member who has some relationship with MICHIGAN STATE UNIVERSITY (this group is a few million people; it's a big place), the MSU Federal Credit Union, which is one of the nation's large credit unions, offers VISA cards without anything but the 1% Visa fee.
I reprint below my edited contact:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr. SST:
Thank you for your e-mail. MSUFCU has no plans to do more than pass the
Visa fee on to users. We actually take great pride in the fact that we do
not charge an additional percentage as many financial institutions are
doing.
You can apply for a Visa Credit card by calling our Loan Department at
800-678-4968.
If you have any further questions or if there is anything else we can do for
you please let us know. Thank you and have a great day!
Sincerely,
(Loan Officer, MSUFCU)
---------------------------------------------------------
I will be calling them later this morning and getting a card, and MBNA's card can be relinquished.
I CHALLENGE OTHERS WHO HAVE THIS TYPE OF SPECIFIC ADVICE AND CAN BACK IT UP WITH REPRINTED DOCUMENTATION TO SHARE IT HERE, SO THAT NO FLYERTALKER NEED PAY THE RIPOFF 2% ADD-ON FEE. WE MAY ALL HAVE AN OPTION. WE NEED TO EMPOWER OUR FRIENDS. I guess I'd say "Friends don't let friends give away money to big banks acting as monopolists".
(If it's too much trouble for you to get yet another card, or you value your points over your money, that's perfectly OK, and rational I guess. But let's give people the specific tools they need to fight this. Like airline fare-hikes, collusion is rampant, but many attempts fail because the intended victims won't buy the goods, and if one company or another cracks, we can go back to earning overseas points without getting charged 2% to do so. But they won't bend if you just accept it and pay.)
[Edited to say: "No, I'm not in any way connected with MSUFCU other than being a member with a pint-sized account I've had open for 20 years"]
Last edited by SST; Jun 9, 2005 at 7:51 am
#291
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Originally Posted by Alcibiades
Do you have MC or VISA branded Capital One CC ?
#292




Join Date: May 2000
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The MSUFCU Visa card above I just was granted offered me no annual fee, a 0.5% purchase rebate (so there's my points, I guess), 11% APR, and a credit line of $33,000. I could have taken a no-rebate 8.9% card instead, but I pay the balance of my foreign purchases off upon receipt each time, so that's better for me. They faxed me an app, signed and faxed back, should have the card in a few days.
There: concrete advice on how to avoid the ripoff. Hope others post, too, so many can benefit....
There: concrete advice on how to avoid the ripoff. Hope others post, too, so many can benefit....
#293
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Capital One - Bad News
I called about getting a Capital One card for my upcomming trip to Europe in August and September. The rep told me that although the bank does not currently add a charge to its foreign currency conversions, it plans to in the near future, and it looks like it will be the same 3% everyone else is charging. Cardholders will be notified of change in terms and conditions by mail.
Sigh. I hope this is delayed until after September.
Greed runs rampant in the banking industry.
Sigh. I hope this is delayed until after September.
Greed runs rampant in the banking industry.
#294

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Usaa
USAA banking is available to anyone, not just USAA members. (I've been with USAA since '68.)
I've used the USAA ATM card in several countries, and have never paid a fee.
The USAA MC has no additional fees for foreign transactions. They have a miles/points card, or, if you qualify for USAA membership, you can get up to 1.5% cash back.
To top it off, USAA has exemplary customer service.
I've used the USAA ATM card in several countries, and have never paid a fee.
The USAA MC has no additional fees for foreign transactions. They have a miles/points card, or, if you qualify for USAA membership, you can get up to 1.5% cash back.
To top it off, USAA has exemplary customer service.
#295
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Capiltal One
Originally Posted by pgary
I called about getting a Capital One card for my upcomming trip to Europe in August and September. The rep told me that although the bank does not currently add a charge to its foreign currency conversions, it plans to in the near future, and it looks like it will be the same 3% everyone else is charging. Cardholders will be notified of change in terms and conditions by mail.
Sigh. I hope this is delayed until after September.
Greed runs rampant in the banking industry.
Sigh. I hope this is delayed until after September.
Greed runs rampant in the banking industry.
#296




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As of now, Capital One is not charging any surcharge (that means 0 -- 0%) on top of the straight interbank rate. That appears to be for both MasterCard and Visa. I suspect that Capital One will apply a 1% surcharge for Visa shortly, and in October, a 1% surcharge for MasterCard, but as of June, 2005, no surcharge is being added.
#297


Join Date: Aug 2004
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Looks like we are left with fewer and fewer choices. Keeping my AAA card in the drawer now. Will hv to look into getting a USAA card.
#298
Join Date: Oct 2004
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I got a nice little surprise from Citibank. The tacked on a $13 service fee for my foreign exchange.
#299


Join Date: Aug 2004
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Originally Posted by travelnutz
I got a nice little surprise from Citibank. The tacked on a $13 service fee for my foreign exchange. 
will hv to leave my citi card in the drawer as well for my upcoming trip.
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Originally Posted by travelnutz
I got a nice little surprise from Citibank. The tacked on a $13 service fee for my foreign exchange. 
i was told that its 3% screw fee on credit card, and 1% fee on atm withdrawls.

