Someone took my miles
#16
FlyerTalk Evangelist



Join Date: May 2000
Location: أمريكا
Posts: 26,931
If you want to protect yourself, most airlines will allow you to put a PIN on your account.
This way the person would have to know your name, address and PIN in order to fraudulently or mistakenly use your miles.
This way the person would have to know your name, address and PIN in order to fraudulently or mistakenly use your miles.
#18

Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: HHSilver;SWACompanion;AA;CO
Posts: 254
Thanks for the welcome!
No, I didn't get to chat with those "in our seats" because I was never told what seats they were assigned. Our assigned seats were very nice, though--first row bulkhead seats in coach class right in front of the video screen and easy for my then 6 year old to go to the restroom. Plenty of legroom, too, and that was great because I hadn't had enough miles for first class or business.
Believe me, if I had been able to identify the people "in my seats", I'd have played very dumb and gotten as much info as I could have about the travel agent and the transaction(s). I'd have then been able to call the actual agent/agency and confront them about what they'd done. AA would not tell
me the name of the agent/agency and they didn't want to pursue it once they determined that they had seats to give me. I'd let it go because my first battle was getting all 5 of us to Hawaii at the same time!
See you on the boards!
SWAL
Believe me, if I had been able to identify the people "in my seats", I'd have played very dumb and gotten as much info as I could have about the travel agent and the transaction(s). I'd have then been able to call the actual agent/agency and confront them about what they'd done. AA would not tell
me the name of the agent/agency and they didn't want to pursue it once they determined that they had seats to give me. I'd let it go because my first battle was getting all 5 of us to Hawaii at the same time!
See you on the boards!
SWAL
#19
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: CRW
Posts: 86
Creepy indeed!
Originally Posted by shannon94188
I had miles taken out of my account for a flight on 9/11/01 (flight ticketed the night before) from BOS-LAX - and I most assuredly was not the user of this flight (I'm based on the other coast!). I was pretty creeped out about this (discovered it a few days later when looking at my online account status while trying to reschedule a trip). AA customer support took a few days to get it sorted out, but eventually the miles were reinstated to my account. No "bonus" miles or anything of a courtesy was offered. I was just glad to get my miles back.
#20
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Richmond, BC, Canada
Posts: 1,511
With the rise in identity theft, I believe more attention needs to be made to confirming exactly who the parties to a transaction are. Even without deliberate identity theft, mistaking two different people of the same or similar names can create all sorts of problems, as I have personally experienced:
1. Stockbroker with same first/last name as me skips out on hotel conference room payment, the hotel comes after me. Resolved with one phone call.
2. Get a call from a US Securities Exchange Commission investigator about the same guy in # 1. Also resolved with a simple phone call.
3. Process server contacts me about a garnishee payment issue from a Heating contractor operated by a guy with almost identical name as me. Actually knew this guy due to association in same ethnic/church background. This could have really damaged my credit rating if it got filed against me instead of the other guy but thankfully convinced the server that I've never been associated with such a business but knew who it was and who founded the business (his father).
4. Accused of passing a bad cheque by The Bay - was due to a altered driver's license (my wallet stolen a while before hand) and a forged signature on a counterfeit cheque. Had to give a written afadavit stating it weren't me.
Most of these appear to have happened because either a phony address was given or the person has moved and they tracked me down using the phone directory to reverse look-up the name.
1. Stockbroker with same first/last name as me skips out on hotel conference room payment, the hotel comes after me. Resolved with one phone call.
2. Get a call from a US Securities Exchange Commission investigator about the same guy in # 1. Also resolved with a simple phone call.
3. Process server contacts me about a garnishee payment issue from a Heating contractor operated by a guy with almost identical name as me. Actually knew this guy due to association in same ethnic/church background. This could have really damaged my credit rating if it got filed against me instead of the other guy but thankfully convinced the server that I've never been associated with such a business but knew who it was and who founded the business (his father).
4. Accused of passing a bad cheque by The Bay - was due to a altered driver's license (my wallet stolen a while before hand) and a forged signature on a counterfeit cheque. Had to give a written afadavit stating it weren't me.
Most of these appear to have happened because either a phony address was given or the person has moved and they tracked me down using the phone directory to reverse look-up the name.
#22

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 94
yikes
Boy, after all that, I'd probably change my name..
Originally Posted by robsawatsky
With the rise in identity theft, I believe more attention needs to be made to confirming exactly who the parties to a transaction are. Even without deliberate identity theft, mistaking two different people of the same or similar names can create all sorts of problems, as I have personally experienced:
1. Stockbroker with same first/last name as me skips out on hotel conference room payment, the hotel comes after me. Resolved with one phone call.
2. Get a call from a US Securities Exchange Commission investigator about the same guy in # 1. Also resolved with a simple phone call.
3. Process server contacts me about a garnishee payment issue from a Heating contractor operated by a guy with almost identical name as me. Actually knew this guy due to association in same ethnic/church background. This could have really damaged my credit rating if it got filed against me instead of the other guy but thankfully convinced the server that I've never been associated with such a business but knew who it was and who founded the business (his father).
4. Accused of passing a bad cheque by The Bay - was due to a altered driver's license (my wallet stolen a while before hand) and a forged signature on a counterfeit cheque. Had to give a written afadavit stating it weren't me.
Most of these appear to have happened because either a phony address was given or the person has moved and they tracked me down using the phone directory to reverse look-up the name.
1. Stockbroker with same first/last name as me skips out on hotel conference room payment, the hotel comes after me. Resolved with one phone call.
2. Get a call from a US Securities Exchange Commission investigator about the same guy in # 1. Also resolved with a simple phone call.
3. Process server contacts me about a garnishee payment issue from a Heating contractor operated by a guy with almost identical name as me. Actually knew this guy due to association in same ethnic/church background. This could have really damaged my credit rating if it got filed against me instead of the other guy but thankfully convinced the server that I've never been associated with such a business but knew who it was and who founded the business (his father).
4. Accused of passing a bad cheque by The Bay - was due to a altered driver's license (my wallet stolen a while before hand) and a forged signature on a counterfeit cheque. Had to give a written afadavit stating it weren't me.
Most of these appear to have happened because either a phony address was given or the person has moved and they tracked me down using the phone directory to reverse look-up the name.
#23
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 660
I had the reverse happen....am in Finnair Saph and booked reward flights between US and Canada......5 months...no points taken from my account....if there is someone out there with missing points....sorry
#24


Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Chicago Illinois
Programs: 1MM UA
Posts: 1,753
Originally Posted by swaluvr
... she was able to tell me that a travel agent in NEW JERSEY had cancelled my reservation and then purchased the 5 seats.
party of 5? The airline clearly knew who these people were. Did they
ever admit it?
#25




Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: UA Based on my CC Spend (PLT 25-GLD 26), AA LT 2MM, LY Gold, Bonvoy LT Plt, Mets fan
Posts: 5,077
Originally Posted by Jiffy
I have another concern here. Not all of us are in the habbit of checking our FF account balances and reconciling as we do with our money accounts. May be we should be doing that more often.
#26
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SF CA USA. I love large faceless corporations. And they cherish me in return (sometimes). ;)
Programs: UA Premier Gold/disappointed 1MM, HH Gold, IHG Plat, MB lifetime Gold, BW Diam Sel
Posts: 17,819
Originally Posted by sosafan
This sounds like enough information to follow up and find out what happened. Did you contact the travel agency? Was there another
party of 5? The airline clearly knew who these people were. Did they
ever admit it?
party of 5? The airline clearly knew who these people were. Did they
ever admit it?
#27
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: bay area, california
Programs: aa exp 1MM, alaska air, united, hhonors gold, spg gold
Posts: 686
Funny - I just had the opposite occur - miles showed up in my Aadvantage on-line account for a trip I didn't take - flight numbers, bonus and everything, round trip to chicago. Someone at aa.com must have discovered the error and a few days later they disappeared.
Has anyone ever been the permanent beneficiary of misposted or phantom miles?
Has anyone ever been the permanent beneficiary of misposted or phantom miles?

