Concord Crash into Paris Hotel while taking off
Jul 26, 2000 | 5:50 am
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Hi
On a news report tonight it was suggested that just prior to takeoff there was some form of engine problem on the ground that was dealt with by staff on the ground although there were no further details.
The interviewer interviewed an expert from Britain who suggested that a fan blade may have been flung off and done a great deal of damage. He suggested that on each wing the two engines are mounted close to each other which would not help.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2000/07/crash-cause.html
Visit the following site tomorrow and you will get full details of the report (when wednesday's stories are posted).
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/
cheers Peter
On a news report tonight it was suggested that just prior to takeoff there was some form of engine problem on the ground that was dealt with by staff on the ground although there were no further details.
The interviewer interviewed an expert from Britain who suggested that a fan blade may have been flung off and done a great deal of damage. He suggested that on each wing the two engines are mounted close to each other which would not help.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2000/07/crash-cause.html
Visit the following site tomorrow and you will get full details of the report (when wednesday's stories are posted).
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/
cheers Peter
Jul 26, 2000 | 2:41 pm
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British Airways has withdrawn one of its concordes (listed above) from service to use for spares, etc. to maintain the remainder. They hope they will continue to fly until approximately 2020 because although the aircraft are physically quite old, in terms of flight hours and landings the airframes are very young.
Six Concordes were also bulit as prototypes/test vehicles. They are preserved in museums in Le Bourget, Yeovilton and Duxford. One is at Orly, Paris, one at Toulouse and one at Filton, Bristol.
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Six Concordes were also bulit as prototypes/test vehicles. They are preserved in museums in Le Bourget, Yeovilton and Duxford. One is at Orly, Paris, one at Toulouse and one at Filton, Bristol.
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Jul 26, 2000 | 5:14 pm
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British TV has been showing videotapes of the last 20 seconds or so of the flight, taken from a car traveling parallel to the plane. It's not a pleasant sight.
Relative to ffhound's comment, they also report that the thrust reverser on the left engine was fixed just prior to takeoff. One wouldn't be using the thrust reverser during take-off and it's not clear that the repair had anything to do with the fire, but it's another lead.
Relative to ffhound's comment, they also report that the thrust reverser on the left engine was fixed just prior to takeoff. One wouldn't be using the thrust reverser during take-off and it's not clear that the repair had anything to do with the fire, but it's another lead.
Jul 27, 2000 | 1:49 am
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For anyone game to fly one of these a UK company offers year round DIRT CHEAP BA Concorde charter flights. These are often HALF price to the low prices shown when bookings are low. Often a few 100 round trip with Hotel and tours etc. That was one I looked at in May this year to Venice for the weekend.
Get their brochure .. SUPERB. My condolences to those killed and bereaved in this accident.
http://www.concorde.co.uk/frames_index.htm
Get their brochure .. SUPERB. My condolences to those killed and bereaved in this accident.
http://www.concorde.co.uk/frames_index.htm
Jul 27, 2000 | 8:19 am
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See the 945 discount on the Norwegian QEII cruise/Orient Express/Concorde flight!
http://www.concorde.co.uk/specialindex.htm
At 1495 it is THE travel bargain of 2000.
http://www.concorde.co.uk/specialindex.htm
At 1495 it is THE travel bargain of 2000.
Jul 29, 2000 | 8:10 am
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Originally posted by silver:
Air France figures at the end of February 1998
Aircraft registration / Aircraft number / Hours flown / Supersonic cycles / Landings
F-BVFA / 205 / 15,922 / 4,823 / 6,257
F-BVFB / 207 / 12,413 / 3,784 / 4,474
F-BVFC / 209 / 12,249 / 3,700 / 4,171
F-BVFD* / 211 / 5,814 / 1,807 / 1,929
F-BVFF / 215 / 10,997 / 3,300 / 3,775 <=
F-BTSC / 203 / 11,399 / 3,465 / 4,688
F-BTSD / 213 / 11,425 / 3,434 / 4,448
* 'FD' was taken out of service in 1982 and dismantled in 1994.
According to Air France the aircraft involved in the accident first went in service in 1980. I would assume it was aircraft number 215, or FF, which was delivered to Air France on October 23, 1980 (same data source)... As you can see from the table above, Concorde 215 had the least flight hours and number of landings...
Air France figures at the end of February 1998
Aircraft registration / Aircraft number / Hours flown / Supersonic cycles / Landings
F-BVFA / 205 / 15,922 / 4,823 / 6,257
F-BVFB / 207 / 12,413 / 3,784 / 4,474
F-BVFC / 209 / 12,249 / 3,700 / 4,171
F-BVFD* / 211 / 5,814 / 1,807 / 1,929
F-BVFF / 215 / 10,997 / 3,300 / 3,775 <=
F-BTSC / 203 / 11,399 / 3,465 / 4,688
F-BTSD / 213 / 11,425 / 3,434 / 4,448
* 'FD' was taken out of service in 1982 and dismantled in 1994.
According to Air France the aircraft involved in the accident first went in service in 1980. I would assume it was aircraft number 215, or FF, which was delivered to Air France on October 23, 1980 (same data source)... As you can see from the table above, Concorde 215 had the least flight hours and number of landings...
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Jul 29, 2000 | 12:33 pm
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Efrem - The Concorde is in fact an exception and the thrust reversers are actually employed during rollout/takeoff as was noted in an attending thread! 
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/003141.html
Also see:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/000943.html
Corrected in response to FQTV below!
[This message has been edited by doc (edited 07-30-2000).]
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/003141.html
Also see:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum...ML/000943.html
Corrected in response to FQTV below!
[This message has been edited by doc (edited 07-30-2000).]
