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jerryhung Feb 19, 2015 6:59 pm


Originally Posted by Cerenity (Post 24380810)
could be quite lucrative with multiple products, for example with BMO

No Fee -> Air Miles -> AM Gold -> World Elite -> No Fee

since when i asked them, they said as long as you are upgrading, you usually qualify for bonus offers.

Except the BMO World Elite offer ($300 points, FYF) usually would have T&C saying previous cardholder does NOT qualify for the $300 welcome points, one may get FYF for 2nd time though

so you can only downgrade & upgrade ONCE really vs. say AMEX/TD/CIBC (cancel & apply) or RBC (downgrade & upgrade)

JJonahJ Feb 19, 2015 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by Cerenity (Post 24380810)
could be quite lucrative with multiple products, for example with BMO

No Fee -> Air Miles -> AM Gold -> World Elite -> No Fee

since when i asked them, they said as long as you are upgrading, you usually qualify for bonus offers.

Datapoints:
I upgraded a no-fee BMO Airmiles MC to the BMO World Elite MC, full promo offered. However, my wife asked for the same but was denied. i.e., we were both upgrading. I have a small BMO bank account, she does not. Our cards were about the same age, just over a year opened. We each spent between $500 - $8000 on it during that time period, not a lot.

tentseller Feb 20, 2015 5:13 am


Originally Posted by Cerenity (Post 24380810)
could be quite lucrative with multiple products, for example with BMO

No Fee -> Air Miles -> AM Gold -> World Elite -> No Fee

since when i asked them, they said as long as you are upgrading, you usually qualify for bonus offers.


Originally Posted by JJonahJ (Post 24382500)
Datapoints:
I upgraded a no-fee BMO Airmiles MC to the BMO World Elite MC, full promo offered. However, my wife asked for the same but was denied. i.e., we were both upgrading. I have a small BMO bank account, she does not. Our cards were about the same age, just over a year opened. We each spent between $500 - $8000 on it during that time period, not a lot.

BMO Data point 2:

We request to upgrade/change our AM Gold to World Elite and was told no bonus due to being a premium MC customer already.
My BMO AM Gold is my main MC in Canada.

prmetime Feb 20, 2015 6:41 am


Originally Posted by JJonahJ (Post 24382500)
Datapoints:
I upgraded a no-fee BMO Airmiles MC to the BMO World Elite MC, full promo offered. However, my wife asked for the same but was denied. i.e., we were both upgrading. I have a small BMO bank account, she does not. Our cards were about the same age, just over a year opened. We each spent between $500 - $8000 on it during that time period, not a lot.

JJJonahJ - When you did the successful upgrade, does this mean no credit pull?

pokee Feb 20, 2015 10:29 am


Originally Posted by prmetime (Post 24383828)
JJJonahJ - When you did the successful upgrade, does this mean no credit pull?

I have never had a credit pull on an upgrade, and I suspect this is because you already hold the account. BUT I often wonder if the criteria for the card is different (minimum household income, for example) if they'd deny you or make you reapply over the phone and do the pull?

JJonahJ Feb 20, 2015 12:13 pm


Originally Posted by prmetime (Post 24383828)

Originally Posted by JJonahJ (Post 24382500)
Datapoints:
I upgraded a no-fee BMO Airmiles MC to the BMO World Elite MC, full promo offered. However, my wife asked for the same but was denied. i.e., we were both upgrading. I have a small BMO bank account, she does not. Our cards were about the same age, just over a year opened. We each spent between $500 - $8000 on it during that time period, not a lot.

JJJonahJ - When you did the successful upgrade, does this mean no credit pull?

As pokee mentioned, when you do a product change (upgrade or downgrade) the account remains the same within your credit file, even if the card account changes to a new number.

I up-converted from a no-fee Airmiles card to a World Elite MC, which requires $60-$70K income. But, if the FI doesn't ask you to prove your income, you'll get the new card.
i.e., your credit file does not store your income info.

prmetime Feb 21, 2015 8:07 am


Originally Posted by pokee (Post 24385237)
I have never had a credit pull on an upgrade, and I suspect this is because you already hold the account. BUT I often wonder if the criteria for the card is different (minimum household income, for example) if they'd deny you or make you reapply over the phone and do the pull?


Originally Posted by JJonahJ (Post 24385937)
As pokee mentioned, when you do a product change (upgrade or downgrade) the account remains the same within your credit file, even if the card account changes to a new number.

I up-converted from a no-fee Airmiles card to a World Elite MC, which requires $60-$70K income. But, if the FI doesn't ask you to prove your income, you'll get the new card.
i.e., your credit file does not store your income info.

Great! Thank you both. I have an unwanted BMO US$ account which I will try upgrading.

pokee Feb 23, 2015 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by prmetime (Post 24390080)
Great! Thank you both. I have an unwanted BMO US$ account which I will try upgrading.

I held the BMO US MC and I don't think it qualifies for upgrading or downgrading, because it's a US dollar and in a different category of cards. When I found mine to be useless, I just cancelled it. Having said that, I didn't try, so you could do it. Good luck!

zer0k1 Feb 23, 2015 1:19 pm

A bunch of MBNA cards have been added back to GCR recently, however still no Alaska Air in sight. Is that one rumored to return?

zer0k1 Feb 23, 2015 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by Hyacinthe (Post 24367908)
http://i.imgur.com/QoRoiM9l.png

A quick look at the source code reveals that the "Apply now" button is simply hidden by a HTML comment tag [colored in green in the above screenshot]. So it is definitely not a "bug", but a deliberate choice to hide it.

Hope this isn't a bad omen. I received an email today from Marriott Rewards offering me 50k after 1st purchase, though.

Interesting. And if you were "unhide" it, the link is still active:

https://ccsic.fni-stl.com/cgi-bin/ma...URCE_CODE=X2H5

But then again, why would anyone want you want that link? Its only 30k.

tentseller Feb 23, 2015 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by pokee (Post 24401638)
I held the BMO US MC and I don't think it qualifies for upgrading or downgrading, because it's a US dollar and in a different category of cards. When I found mine to be useless, I just cancelled it. Having said that, I didn't try, so you could do it. Good luck!

There isn't any promo for the BMO US$ MC. I kept mine as they would not have two billing addresses on my AirMiles Gold so I use the US one for US online shopping shipped to my "US billing address"

JetLife Feb 24, 2015 8:01 am

I tried applying for the TD Aeroplan Visa online through the GCR promotion. I have tried twice and both times there was an error in identifying me (it happened after it asked me the personal questions to confirm my identity which I answered correctly) so they said to go into a TD Branch to sign-up.

However, will I be still able to get this offer (ie. FYF, 25,000 Aeroplan miles) if I go into a branch? Anybody run into this situation?

Thanks.

jerryhung Feb 24, 2015 8:41 am


Originally Posted by JetLife (Post 24406231)
I tried applying for the TD Aeroplan Visa online through the GCR promotion. I have tried twice and both times there was an error in identifying me (it happened after it asked me the personal questions to confirm my identity which I answered correctly) so they said to go into a TD Branch to sign-up.

However, will I be still able to get this offer (ie. FYF, 25,000 Aeroplan miles) if I go into a branch? Anybody run into this situation?

Thanks.

You should read & ask in this thread, then we can reply there
but it's YMMV, since 25K/FYF offer isn't "public" or available on TD online

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post24404289

JetLife Feb 24, 2015 8:48 am


Originally Posted by jerryhung (Post 24406475)
You should read & ask in this thread, then we can reply there
but it's YMMV, since 25K/FYF offer isn't "public" or available on TD online

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...l#post24404289

Thanks for directing me to the correct thread. :D

Davidwashere Feb 24, 2015 10:57 am

Data Point:

I hold a BMO Airmiles Gold card. I upgraded it from a non-fee airmiles in October to get the 2,000 airmiles. I spoke to the CSR rep today who was prepared to do a product switch (no-credit hit) to the World Elite. He said I was eligible for whatever promotion is online right now. (FYF and $300 credit)

I have held that account for 15 years, but just keep switching between cards.


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