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tng11 Feb 27, 2015 6:07 am

Since it looks like US DM and AA are combining their mileage programs next one, anyone else converting their Aeroplan miles to US?

I'm converting 100K AP for 82K US miles... CX/JL to Asia without YQ. :)

jerryhung Feb 27, 2015 6:36 am


Originally Posted by tng11 (Post 24424020)
Since it looks like US DM and AA are combining their mileage programs next one, anyone else converting their Aeroplan miles to US?

I'm converting 100K AP for 82K US miles... CX/JL to Asia without YQ. :)

I already converted 100K AP to 84K USDM last month

Certainly didn't expect such quick merge (March 2015), but now I have to study AA programs and its sweet spots also.... after using up my Alaska miles, AA left for CX

tommy99 Feb 27, 2015 7:15 am

I've been looking at this type of transfer for some time but just can't get my head around it. I know everyone has different redemption situations, but with my 100,000 AP points I just need another 50,000 points (easy with an Amex transfer) and I have myself a business mini-RTW on Star Alliance with two stopovers. Granted I'd rather return to Toronto in a business CX seat but having experienced business Eva Air TPE-YYZ I was thoroughly impressed. Heck, I would even work my way home trying out ANA or Asiana if the surcharge isn't too high.

Is this type of conversion a good thing any more?

American/US Air chart:

Between North America* and Japan or Korea

Business
Low: 110,000

Between North America* and China or Hong Kong

Business
Low: 110,000

jerryhung Feb 27, 2015 8:01 am


Originally Posted by tommy99 (Post 24424283)
I've been looking at this type of transfer for some time but just can't get my head around it. I know everyone has different redemption situations, but with my 100,000 AP points I just need another 50,000 points (easy with an Amex transfer) and I have myself a business mini-RTW on Star Alliance with two stopovers. Granted I'd rather return to Toronto in a business CX seat but having experienced business Eva Air TPE-YYZ I was thoroughly impressed. Heck, I would even work my way home trying out ANA or Asiana if the surcharge isn't too high.

Is this type of conversion a good thing any more?

American/US Air chart:

Between North America* and Japan or Korea

Business
Low: 110,000

Between North America* and China or Hong Kong

Business
Low: 110,000

I think it's only for people with EXTRA Aeroplan miles to convert. I do it to diversify, just as I collect BA Avios and Alaska miles, just in case *A options don't work out.
e.g. I redeemed Avios for CX YYZ-HKG 2Y, Alaska Miles (50K one-way) for YYZ-HKG 1J for upcoming summer because *A options aren't good (ie. no EVA TPAC space at all)


Otherwise, you have to do your own calculation on whether Aeroplan vs. AA is worth the transfer

flyertalker00156 Feb 27, 2015 8:48 am


Originally Posted by tng11 (Post 24424020)
Since it looks like US DM and AA are combining their mileage programs next one, anyone else converting their Aeroplan miles to US?

I'm converting 100K AP for 82K US miles... CX/JL to Asia without YQ. :)

How is this done? Through Esso?

grandgourmand Feb 27, 2015 8:50 am


Originally Posted by alexisonsmith (Post 24424762)
How is this done? Through Esso?

+1 for this question. I believe its through points.com but there's a trick involving claiming a US address on your Aeroplan account? Can someone clarify?

tng11 Feb 27, 2015 8:52 am


Originally Posted by grandgourmand (Post 24424780)
+1 for this question. I believe its through points.com but there's a trick involving claiming a US address on your Aeroplan account? Can someone clarify?

Points.com - I just changed my address on the account there and that was it.

EDIT: I meant 100K AP = 84K US.

jerryhung Feb 27, 2015 8:54 am

Change your address to US

Exchange via Points.com, should be 100 AP to 84 USDM (50K Aeroplan max per transfer, 100K max per year)

Preacher7 Feb 27, 2015 9:54 am

our family has already converted 380K aeros to US this year. close to 600 K last year, and more to come. AA miles are so great for premium F redemptions, not to mention no YQ. you take a 16-20% hit, but that's easily made up in no YQ. it's also the last chance to do it, so i'd suggest taking advantage of it now...

tng11 Feb 27, 2015 10:04 am

It's actually a better value to use on AA - considering 67.5K to Asia in F equals out to about 80K Aeroplan, but the added bonus is no YQ and no change fees for dates. Contrast that 105K redeemed through Aeroplan and YQ on many decent carriers. So the 16% haircut still puts you out on top (I've even taken a 30% haircut through Esso and Avion and still found it a bargain - I've saved a ton on lack of change fees.)

crimsona Feb 27, 2015 10:05 am

They didn't enforce 100k per annual year cap on you?

Preacher7 Feb 27, 2015 10:17 am


Originally Posted by crimsona (Post 24425229)
They didn't enforce 100k per annual year cap on you?

Sure, but we have multiple family members and we did this in 2014 and now in 2015.

Let's face it, it's the only redemption on points.com that's worth it!

flyertalker00156 Feb 27, 2015 10:43 am

Milesbuzz: Canada
 
So it is a straight transfer? Any US address ;)

flyertalker00156 Feb 27, 2015 10:52 am

Milesbuzz: Canada
 
So we can transfer to AA as well?

pokee Feb 27, 2015 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by Davidwashere (Post 24407243)
Data Point:

I hold a BMO Airmiles Gold card. I upgraded it from a non-fee airmiles in October to get the 2,000 airmiles. I spoke to the CSR rep today who was prepared to do a product switch (no-credit hit) to the World Elite. He said I was eligible for whatever promotion is online right now. (FYF and $300 credit)

I have held that account for 15 years, but just keep switching between cards.

I've held my current BMO credit account for about 25 years now.

Over the years, I have done all sorts of upgrades and downgrades. My account has looked something like this (although cannot recall my air miles bonuses from 2007 prior):

Regular MC - 1990-1995
Air Miles MC - 1995-2002
Air Miles Gold - 2002-2007
Air Miles MC - 2007 - 2012
BMO World Elite - 2012 - 2013 (FYF, +$350 travel + 4 lounge passes)
BMO Rewards - 2013 - 2014 ($35 AF - to keep leftover rewards to spend)
BMO Preferred Rate MC - 2014-2015 (No fee + 11% interest)
BMO Air Miles MC - 2015 (no fee + 500 Airmiles)

I am hoping to go back up to a BMO World Elite next year if they have a FYF promo.

I think whether or not I get the bonus depends on how far back their card history goes.


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