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Pts & miles inheritance

Old Mar 27, 12, 8:11 pm
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Pts & miles inheritance

If a person passes away, who gets the pts/miles? How can I designate certain ppl to receive them? Sorry, very dizzy to stay on comPuter right now and search.
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Old Mar 27, 12, 8:18 pm
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Do you live in a community property state?
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Old Mar 27, 12, 8:23 pm
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I live in NYC. Sorry, not sure what a community state is.
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Old Mar 27, 12, 8:32 pm
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I would just mention it in the will including the frequent flyer number and password. Some airlines would open a deceased account to a family member although I'm not too sure of the rules on that.

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Old Mar 27, 12, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by dshargorodsky View Post
Some airlines would open a diseased account to a family member...
Personally, I would avoid those "diseased" accounts; you could catch the same thing that killed your deceased relative.
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Old Mar 27, 12, 9:18 pm
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AA info

There is a thread on this for American:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...lidated-6.html

AA is under no obligation to do so, but they seem to have been generally nice about transferring miles to an heir. There seems to be a nominal fee.

The same thread indicates some varied experience with other programs.
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Old Mar 27, 12, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Bloodshot2k View Post
I live in NYC. Sorry, not sure what a community state is.
A community property state entitles your wife/husband to half of everything you own. As far as New York, it is not a community property state. You may be able to make a bequest in your Will regarding the miles, but laws vary from state to state. It would be best to check with your attorney.

j3brooklyn I would have to agree with your advice.
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Old Mar 27, 12, 9:29 pm
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Originally Posted by j3brooklyn View Post
Personally, I would avoid those "diseased" accounts; you could catch the same thing that killed your deceased relative.
LOL, still trying to get used to typing on the iPad.
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Old Mar 27, 12, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by dshargorodsky View Post
LOL, still trying to get used to typing on the iPad.
I remember those days, auto-"correct" can be quite frustrating!
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Old Mar 27, 12, 10:13 pm
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Some other threads on this topic:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-ff-miles.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...ter-death.html
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Old Mar 30, 12, 9:36 am
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There is another path espoused on these boards. Basically, it's:

"Here's the envelope with all my accounts, usernames, passwords and pins. Never let them know I'm gone!"

[It's possible to book someone other than the account holder using an account's miles/points.]

By the way, I officially transferred ~200K of my wife's UA miles to my son after she passed, and the only "hurdle" was to provide copies of death certificate and son's ID. And I think there was also an affidavit to sign. It might have included a hold harmless and acknowledgment that there would be no reversing the process. Something like that. But no will or trust was requested.

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Old Mar 30, 12, 10:45 am
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Remember the legal fine print in the T&C that says that the miles do not belong to you, they belong to the airline. You actually do not have a legal right to them.

I seem to recall seeing something on Air Canada saying that they will basically, in respect of your loss and bereavement, graciously permit transfer of miles to an heir for just a token fee of 2 cents per mile (barf barf!).

However, airlines do vary in their actual policies. Air Canada's policy is essentially confiscatory, since the miles aren't even worth 2 cents each. This is why, as another poster mentioned, some people have been known to leave their password and say "Don't tell anybody I'm dead until you burn all the miles."

There have been divorce cases where people have claimed miles as marital property to be divided. I don't really know how they have been decided. I'm pretty sure that an airline can just laugh and say "Oh, you have a court order telling us to transfer miles from Mr. Flyertalk to Mrs. Flyertalk. Go spit in the water, you can't make us do a damn thing, the miles don't belong to Mr. Flyertalk, they belong to us." (Most likely the court will say that if the miles are worth $5000, Mrs. Flyertalk gets an extra $2500 from some other asset.)

Probably the "use 'em before the airline finds out" is the best strategy.
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Old Apr 1, 12, 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by longhorn11 View Post
You may be able to make a bequest in your Will regarding the miles, but laws vary from state to state.
Situation also varies from program to program. Some FF programs will not transfer miles on death, no matter what *you* say in your will.
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