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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 12:01 pm
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I opened one of these accounts earlier this year and was surprised to discover that BD paid a slightly higher interest rate on my account than my local bank. This monthly fee, however, cancels the miles I'm earning so that'll end my association with BD.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 12:07 pm
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I closed my account today-- had to pay $7 for them to mail me a check.


The hunt continues for more miles...
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Middlebeiz
I closed my account today-- had to pay $7 for them to mail me a check.
You had to pay them to give you your money back!?!? Ridiculous.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
BD is not for those who are spreading 10K here, 25K there and deal with multiple institutions as well as have to perform monthly tasks in order to keep the accounts 0 monthly fee plus earning that high APY.

Folks using BD has high amount of idle cash that far exceeds the 10K here 25K there type of approach, and do NOT want to be bothered with those little tasks. For them, an annual trip in CX F to Asia is well worth the cost to acquire SIZABLE AA miles.
Exactly. Thank you.


Originally Posted by Happy
The above has been discussed Ad Nauseum in AA forum BD thread, just fyi.

Different asset levels requires different approaches best suited to different folks - it cannot be more obvious in this BD discussion which is really a redundant to the much more in depth BD thread in AA forum.
Yes, yes. Thanks again!

My experiences with BD have been almost universally excellent. Excellent telephone customer service; far better than many other banks which do NOT advertise themselves as internet banks. Miles always post on time, within the first few days of the month, slightly longer when those days include a weekend; unlike many other miles givers who sometimes take months, and many calls and emails, to credit miles. And for those of us who achieved LT AA status with BD miles, BD has earned a bit of loyalty. And yes, for many of us 120,000 miles for no fee, or 240,000 miles for $144, even with the lost opportunity cost, is VERY well worth it.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
Could you kindly post WHERE you can get 3% APY with account balance in the 100K to 200K amount?

I am sure tons of folks would love to know if this is actually true. If you go to the AA forum and read that BD thread, you would realize that many folks have kept OVER $200K there, even though amount above $200K earns only 1 mile per $20.

Seriously, 3% APY in an FDIC account with a balance at $200K at today's banking environment? Whom are you kidding?
Originally Posted by sun_aa
It only makes sense if your valuation of AA miles is high and you don't want to manage multiple rewards checking accounts at multiple banks.
Didn't I clearly say that you would need to manage multiple accounts. So I don't know why you are accusing me. Most of these banks will only give you the high rate for balances up to $25k. I am going to quote again the part of your post that I disagreed with.

Originally Posted by Happy
The account only makes sense for folks who have high amount of idle cash which they do not want to have it subject to market risk (hence not the usual equity investment).
If you are willing to work a little bit, you can get at least 3% APY risk free for your cash. I also said that if you value the miles more than the cash, BD still gives a good value. I even gave some math to help with the calculation.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by meecal
Haven't played the BD game. Is this simply because you're getting a return on your investment in a non-taxed form (miles) instead of a cash return that is taxed?
Technically, the miles have some value and you would need to declare that as income. Just like with use tax no one bothers about it. Why do you think states want Amazon to collect taxes?

The IRS only doesn't care about miles you receive when you fly for work. Also miles you receive from shopping/credit card bonuses could be construed as reducing the cost basis and so wouldn't count towards income.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by meecal
You had to pay them to give you your money back!?!? Ridiculous.
Only if you want an official check of your remaining balance. Once your outstanding transactions are settled, just write yourself a check for the exact amount and deposit it elsewhere, and once it clears and your BD account has $0 in it, there will be no need for them to send you an official check or wire you the money because there won't be any left.

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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 3:07 pm
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Discussion in progress since 11.26.2011, begin reading at post #929:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post17518931


Discussion in progress since 12.03.2011, begin reading at post #13:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...l#post17559296
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 4:34 pm
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Still on the fence with this one. I think I am going to keep my account around for a bit, but not sure of the long term.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 4:41 pm
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Anyone know is there a min balance for the checking account

I don't seem to find there is min. balance for this checking account?
I will transfer out my money and then cancel the account.
I don't want to pay the $7 fee.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by sun_aa
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Even now you can get 3% APY or more.
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Presuming an amount of about $200,000 please tell us how and where we can get 3% APY or more.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
Presuming an amount of about $200,000 please tell us how and where we can get 3% APY or more.
I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. You will need multiple accounts for that entire sum to earn 3%. Google "reward checking accounts" and go to the first link.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 9:28 pm
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I just received my letter last week. I just opened an account two months ago and i have to cut ties already. I was so looking forward to my yearly saver pass reward. ugh - oh well.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by sun_aa
I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. You will need multiple accounts for that entire sum to earn 3%. Google "reward checking accounts" and go to the first link.
Yeah, with $200K one needs to open 8 accounts or more, then perform X number of transactions / tasks for each account, just so to get that 3% APY... which then is subject to tax. At a mid-range Federal Tax 28% bracket, that 3% APY is reduced to 2.16% only. That is even before State Income Tax. It is not uncommon for high income folks having a 40% total tax liability if they live in high tax states such as NY and CA.

All the multiple accounts talks are just academic and not practical at all.

I cannot imagine the extra work added come tax time. Just keeping track with all those little balances spread among multiple institutions, and remember to perform the required tasks so to earn that high rate, is enough to eat up enough time each month.

Again, the BD is NOT for those folks who do not have sizable idle cash. It is only good for those who have sizable idle cash, have no need to chase rates for added cash flow, as well as the desire to earn sizable AA miles so to redeem the F seats in the best OneWorld member flights. Plain and Simple.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by meecal
Haven't played the BD game. Is this simply because you're getting a return on your investment in a non-taxed form (miles) instead of a cash return that is taxed?
It is part of the equation but not the total picture.
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