How many miles is that award??
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Gonna need more specifics to troubleshoot it than that. :-:
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Great tool that has been needed for a long time. Thanks.
If you could include ANA that would be especially useful, since ANA has distance-based pricing for awards. This could get complex because the cost of the award really depends ont he each route flown. To keep it siimple you could just calculate the direct distance between the two airports and base the award on that as the minimum cost.
If you could include ANA that would be especially useful, since ANA has distance-based pricing for awards. This could get complex because the cost of the award really depends ont he each route flown. To keep it siimple you could just calculate the direct distance between the two airports and base the award on that as the minimum cost.
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Looks good! ^ I'd implemented something similar for Mileage Monkey (http://slfft.org/mm/award.htm) way back when but it is out of date now.
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If you could include ANA that would be especially useful, since ANA has distance-based pricing for awards. This could get complex because the cost of the award really depends ont he each route flown. To keep it siimple you could just calculate the direct distance between the two airports and base the award on that as the minimum cost.
Additionally, the issues with airports in the central USA should now be resolved. I've tested with DEN and ORD and it is now returning results. Sorry about that.
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I tried BWI-LHR & one of the return results was Qatar Airways metal... not sure if that is accurate, BA is the only intl carrier (non-ghetto mind you) at BWI.
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the more I play with it the more I like it.
It could be super powerful if the following (admittedly not trivial) features were implemented:
1. Alliance/Partner filters: the ability to limit the output to the members of a specific alliance. Or to choose a specific airline and say "show me all partners who will allow me to redeem on this airline from X to Y" (this can be very useful as sometimes the best values are with partners who are not in an alliance).
2. Showing only valid routes/awards. for example if I choose MOW (Moscow) to UUS (Sakhalin), the table includes Continental and Qatar "Own" flights in the results which obviously dont exist between these airports, so there's no reason to show them. In fact, there are no star-alliance carriers flying that route at all so it would be ideal to not show any star-alliance members. Eliminating US Airways "own" flights could be accomplished pretty easily by parsing the http://openflights.org/data.html database. Eliminating all alliance flights is much more complicated as you would need to check if any valid route exists between the airports on any carrier in the alliance. (And then there are non-published routes and things like "two region awards" that could also be considered.) But it would be really cool...
A few other minor points:
- BMI Diamond Club shows a region in the table called "Eurpoe 2".
- You should probably check exceptions in some programs for Hawaii and the Russian Far East (Sakhalin, Vladivostok, etc) which often are excluded from the North America or Europe (respectively) regions.
- For some programs you show only one-way awards. When you will add a filter for "one-way" and "return" it will be reasonable to double-up the "one-way" amounts and show them as "return" for easy comparison.
Thanks again for a great tool.
Ron
It could be super powerful if the following (admittedly not trivial) features were implemented:
1. Alliance/Partner filters: the ability to limit the output to the members of a specific alliance. Or to choose a specific airline and say "show me all partners who will allow me to redeem on this airline from X to Y" (this can be very useful as sometimes the best values are with partners who are not in an alliance).
2. Showing only valid routes/awards. for example if I choose MOW (Moscow) to UUS (Sakhalin), the table includes Continental and Qatar "Own" flights in the results which obviously dont exist between these airports, so there's no reason to show them. In fact, there are no star-alliance carriers flying that route at all so it would be ideal to not show any star-alliance members. Eliminating US Airways "own" flights could be accomplished pretty easily by parsing the http://openflights.org/data.html database. Eliminating all alliance flights is much more complicated as you would need to check if any valid route exists between the airports on any carrier in the alliance. (And then there are non-published routes and things like "two region awards" that could also be considered.) But it would be really cool...

A few other minor points:
- BMI Diamond Club shows a region in the table called "Eurpoe 2".
- You should probably check exceptions in some programs for Hawaii and the Russian Far East (Sakhalin, Vladivostok, etc) which often are excluded from the North America or Europe (respectively) regions.
- For some programs you show only one-way awards. When you will add a filter for "one-way" and "return" it will be reasonable to double-up the "one-way" amounts and show them as "return" for easy comparison.
Thanks again for a great tool.
Ron
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BOS-SCL offers:
US Airways Dividend Miles; Off-peak Economy; 35000; Own
As far as I am aware, AC is the only *A North American carrier that flies to SCL, so US-Own isn't a valid option.
Would be nice if there were three checkboxes before the search to narrow the options (leaving all three as checked by default would accomplish the same as the current state): Y, J, F
Also, since we're only allowed O & D, the "map it" feature is pretty useless for something like BOS-SCL, since there is no non-stop service on any carrier.
Great idea for a tool though - look forward to seeing the mileage/km-based programs added.
US Airways Dividend Miles; Off-peak Economy; 35000; Own
As far as I am aware, AC is the only *A North American carrier that flies to SCL, so US-Own isn't a valid option.
Would be nice if there were three checkboxes before the search to narrow the options (leaving all three as checked by default would accomplish the same as the current state): Y, J, F
Also, since we're only allowed O & D, the "map it" feature is pretty useless for something like BOS-SCL, since there is no non-stop service on any carrier.
Great idea for a tool though - look forward to seeing the mileage/km-based programs added.
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Class of service filtering is now enabled. Only known limitation at this time is that searching for Y will include Y+. Otherwise checking the appropriate boxes should get you what you want.
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Great job! ^
The hickups Ive found so far:
1) origin region and destination region are sometimes the wrong way around (enter: LHR-SFO, table displays NA-Europe); not that it really makes a big difference
2) the chart displays numbers for bmi - First Class - Own; obviously BD doesnt operate a First Class cabin, so you could probably just eliminate that column
3) BA is slightly confusing: Currently only awards on BA metal seem to be loaded which leads to some ridiculous figures like 140k/280k/420k miles for LAX-SYD. I think displaying the correct numbers for OW FFPs is more difficult than *A FFPs. Maybe you could implement the following categories for OW FFPs:
own metal
one partner airline only
(unlimited partner airlines)
4) Regarding the round-trip vs. one-way issue:
if possible Id use the one-way figures if the FFP allows members to book awards at 50% of the return cost (e.g. BD, UA) and return figures for all other airlines (e.g. US)
Not sure whether it would be too much trouble, but this would lead to one-way figures for LH/LX/OS own metal awards and return figures for *A awards (once M&M has been loaded, of course)
It may also make sense to point out this info on the first page...
Thanks a lot for your work!
The hickups Ive found so far:
1) origin region and destination region are sometimes the wrong way around (enter: LHR-SFO, table displays NA-Europe); not that it really makes a big difference
2) the chart displays numbers for bmi - First Class - Own; obviously BD doesnt operate a First Class cabin, so you could probably just eliminate that column
3) BA is slightly confusing: Currently only awards on BA metal seem to be loaded which leads to some ridiculous figures like 140k/280k/420k miles for LAX-SYD. I think displaying the correct numbers for OW FFPs is more difficult than *A FFPs. Maybe you could implement the following categories for OW FFPs:
own metal
one partner airline only
(unlimited partner airlines)
4) Regarding the round-trip vs. one-way issue:
if possible Id use the one-way figures if the FFP allows members to book awards at 50% of the return cost (e.g. BD, UA) and return figures for all other airlines (e.g. US)
Not sure whether it would be too much trouble, but this would lead to one-way figures for LH/LX/OS own metal awards and return figures for *A awards (once M&M has been loaded, of course)
It may also make sense to point out this info on the first page...
Thanks a lot for your work!


