I don't understand this FFP malarky - please help
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LCY
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 374
I don't understand this FFP malarky - please help
OK I'm completely new to FFPs so I need some help. I'm looking at booking two return tickets LHR-CPT business class (or first for the right price). I've priced up the various offerings and routings and thought I'd found my best deal (1800 GBP pp in J with QR) but then I came across the FFP malarky.
At present EY are offering triple miles on first and double miles on business to first time travellers plus they seem to allow families to pool their miles at 100%. So...
Their J class fare is 2835 GBP pp and their F fare is 3912 pp. Now I know that the EY J fare is 1000 pp more expensive and the F fare almost double but I with the mileage offer at the moment does it make sense to take the EY flight.
For example two F class fares would accrue just short of 200,000 miles in one trip:
32,324 x 3 (offer) x 2 (people) + 2500 online booking bonus. Which would get you a business class far from London to Tokyo with some change! Can this be right? If so upgrading from J to F on at 900 GBP will get me an extra 90,000 miles. You also get car transfers with EY.
Thoughts and comments please?!?
At present EY are offering triple miles on first and double miles on business to first time travellers plus they seem to allow families to pool their miles at 100%. So...
Their J class fare is 2835 GBP pp and their F fare is 3912 pp. Now I know that the EY J fare is 1000 pp more expensive and the F fare almost double but I with the mileage offer at the moment does it make sense to take the EY flight.
For example two F class fares would accrue just short of 200,000 miles in one trip:
32,324 x 3 (offer) x 2 (people) + 2500 online booking bonus. Which would get you a business class far from London to Tokyo with some change! Can this be right? If so upgrading from J to F on at 900 GBP will get me an extra 90,000 miles. You also get car transfers with EY.
Thoughts and comments please?!?
#3
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LCY
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 374
http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/e...howtoearn.aspx
I've checked the mileage LHR-CPT and the regular miles awarded for this route are:
8081/16162 miles in economy (one way/return)
12122/24243 miles in business (one way/return)
16162/32324 miles in first (one way/return)
So in the double and triple offer that is
Business 24243 x 2 = 48,486
First 32324 x 3 = 96972
http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/E...ntheworld.aspx
That's per person, and according to their website I should also accrue 100% of my missus' miles so that's a total of 193,944
http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/e...tBenefits.aspx
I've checked the mileage LHR-CPT and the regular miles awarded for this route are:
8081/16162 miles in economy (one way/return)
12122/24243 miles in business (one way/return)
16162/32324 miles in first (one way/return)
So in the double and triple offer that is
Business 24243 x 2 = 48,486
First 32324 x 3 = 96972
http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/E...ntheworld.aspx
That's per person, and according to their website I should also accrue 100% of my missus' miles so that's a total of 193,944
http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/e...tBenefits.aspx
#5
Flyertalk Posting Legend Moderator: Credit Card Programs, American Express, Capital One, Chase, Citi, Diners Club, Eco Travel, Signatures




Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Miami, Mpls & London
Programs: AA, IHG & Marriott Platinum; DL & HH Gold
Posts: 51,889
It would be helpful if you could post a link to this offer because typically these types of promotions double or triple only the base miles (i. e. the actual distance flown), but in your example you have doubled and trebled an amount including the class of sevice bonus awarded for buying a business or first class ticket. You could be correct, but it's important to read and fully understand the terms.
#6




Join Date: May 2005
Location: BRU
Programs: A3/Gold, BA/Gold + other less precious metals
Posts: 2,644
#7
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LCY
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 374
To Mia - I've posted the links in one of my previous posts in this thread. In the example that Etihad give (LHR-SYD) they triple the original first class mileage and not the base mileage, which is what I also did.
#8




Join Date: May 2005
Location: BRU
Programs: A3/Gold, BA/Gold + other less precious metals
Posts: 2,644
#9




Join Date: May 2005
Location: BRU
Programs: A3/Gold, BA/Gold + other less precious metals
Posts: 2,644
From what I can see, all your calculations seem to be absolutely correct, based on the (LHR-SYD) example EY give on their own website. BTW, just print out that site for future reference!



