Originally Posted by chronicrelief
(Post 32049574)
Stupid questions are how people learn. I'm not trying to explore Peru - just had a general question about ITA and pulled up a random fare. I wasn't sure if ITA wasn't properly showing the YQ, or if there was legitimately no YQ at all.
I appreciate your response and hope that in general, experienced fuel dumpers will be more willing to answer such "stupid" questions. It's not like I'm asking for a particular 3X, so there should be no harm or risk in answering my question. Some similarly stupid questions I have: - Does "safe construction" refer to an itinerary that is completely flyable because the strike is a close open jaw to the main set of flights, or that the fare is a self-dump and no open jaw is required at all? - Matrix ITA is relatively slow compared to some other OTAs/search engines. Aside from the ability to read fare rules, there's no reason why I *have* to use ITA to try out potential strikes right? It would be worthwhile to study the fare rules. So you will be ready in case of mistake fare and you will try to maximize them. An example could be the recent EK first class Mistake PEN-SIN, because if you understand quickly that the fare basis code was PEN-SIN RT you could simply construct twice the route via DXB. Expertflyer and ITA are your friends in these cases. You could ask yourself why you couldn't route the EK f mistake via other Asia cities and obviously the answer is in the fare rules. Sometimes a mistake fare could be on the main airline stock and then you could think that to have an extra protection and fly under the radar you could issue the ticket on another stock (if fare rules allow it). If you have the chance to open CC with big bonus I would spend also a lot of time to understand better the award system. Your aim should be to travel. Are you sure that it is worthwhile to understand the definition of "safe construction"? The guy who invented this terminology is the same guy who firstly told that it's "safe" to skip 1x (posting for months low prices) and then regretted the words after a lot of IDB stories. So my suggestion is to learn the fare rules and the best place is OUTSIDE of this thread because on this thread you are just wasting your time hoping to understand the "fuel dump" |
Thanks to some OTA help/magic from WWE, just landed my first fuel dump! Truly an amazing feeling. I get the sense I'm going to have a lot more Matrix ITA tabs open on a regular basis now :p
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TPAC One Way and TATL One Way combinations
123.06 £ All-in
No 1X, No 3X, No 1X/4X, No 2.5X Nothing wasted. Thailand and Laos can be added for very little. Reverse Everything above and the price is approximately the same. NZ can be added as final destination for 89.15 £ more. |
168.30 £ All-in No Waste
From Airport in East Central C1 to Southeast Asian Capital
with a no additional cost vacation (stop-over) in Europe and a no additional cost vacation (Stop-over) in famous Thai Beach resort. 168.30£. All-in One-Way No 1X , No 2X, No 3X No 1X/4X, No 2.5X, No waste. There are 2 In-Region changes of airports but otherwise entire itinerary is "In-Line" . For a few £ more you can insert segment on Smooth As Silk. |
Starting in C3E, from the capital city:
- you can fly to C5 west for 238€ RT AI - or try the riviera in C2W for 288€ RT AI Same airline, different route: - leave the big apple and come to this same C2W city, then leave the country from the capital city for 285€ RT AI - leave C2N for C3E, 200€ RT AI All flights are non-direct. |
C1-C1.5 via C2 £ 174.60 All-in No Waste
New York to Europe - 1 weeks stop-over - Europe to C1.5 £ 174.60 All-in.
Now £ 141,05 after Yesterday's price cut. Now 129,58 £ Now also works from George Bush Airport. |
I've got a handful of candidate fares on a variety of carriers where fat is at least 60% of total price.
What's the best way to look for strikes? On itamatrix as well or via an OTA? edit: pop the champagne, I just found my first ever fare! Saved a grand total of $29 on a fare of $1,060 but at least I have proof of concept under the belt! Probably won't book this one :) |
Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
(Post 32116545)
New York to Europe - 1 weeks stop-over - Europe to C1.5 £ 174.60 All-in.
1st segment can even be on a LATAM codesshare followed by 4 additional codeshare flights. |
Originally Posted by CX_newbie
(Post 32121051)
I've got a handful of candidate fares on a variety of carriers where fat is at least 60% of total price.
What's the best way to look for strikes? On itamatrix as well or via an OTA? edit: pop the champagne, I just found my first ever fare! Saved a grand total of $29 on a fare of $1,060 but at least I have proof of concept under the belt! Probably won't book this one :) |
recommended OTA
I have found several ITA-able dumps that I cannot price on Priceline. What are the recommended OTAs these days? If it matters, it's a 1X dump on a BA fare.
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It's confusing as well as interesting at the same time! I never had to pay C1->C3 for business class with Citi Holy-grail. After shutdown, stumbled upon this. Read few blogs. Started reading the posts from 2018 Jan. Looks like it going to be marathon rather than sprint! Let's see.
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
(Post 32100242)
From Airport in East Central C1 to Southeast Asian Capital
with a no additional cost vacation (stop-over) in Europe and a no additional cost vacation (Stop-over) in famous Thai Beach resort. 168.30£. All-in One-Way No 1X , No 2X, No 3X No 1X/4X, No 2.5X, No waste. There are 2 In-Region changes of airports but otherwise entire itinerary is "In-Line" . For a few £ more you can insert segment on Smooth As Silk. |
Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
(Post 32100242)
From Airport in East Central C1 to Southeast Asian Capital
with a no additional cost vacation (stop-over) in Europe and a no additional cost vacation (Stop-over) in famous Thai Beach resort. 168.30£. All-in One-Way No 1X , No 2X, No 3X No 1X/4X, No 2.5X, No waste. There are 2 In-Region changes of airports but otherwise entire itinerary is "In-Line" . For a few £ more you can insert segment on Smooth As Silk. |
Originally Posted by chronicrelief
(Post 32148339)
If you insert a segment on Smooth as Silk, is there now only 1 in-region change of airport? Perhaps Smooth as Silk departs from the Thai beach resort?
There are still 2 airport airport changes. On 2nd airport change - best you take boat and bus via PhiPhi. Key to this is making breaks at the right places and the right time |
A 3x itin I have is likely to be canceled by the airline. If the first two legs are rebooked to a different date, but not the 3x, will the YQ automatically be applied?
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