Chris Elliott: "Elites ruining air travel"/Uses FT as example
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Lame editorial, but who cares?
People flying coach to Orlando once every three years, the only people that would agree with the author that the "elite" benefits are unacceptable and everyone should experience the same level of service, have always had an axe to grind with elites. Even though most of my travel us in E+ as required by my corporate travel policy, I realize the guy paying $2,000 compared to my $200 should receive more perks than me.
People flying coach to Orlando once every three years, the only people that would agree with the author that the "elite" benefits are unacceptable and everyone should experience the same level of service, have always had an axe to grind with elites. Even though most of my travel us in E+ as required by my corporate travel policy, I realize the guy paying $2,000 compared to my $200 should receive more perks than me.
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While some folks clearly want to wave their status in front of everyone else, I'm of the opinion that most FTers are among the most considerate with respect to GAs, FAs, other pax, etc. You'd never know that from the editorial, though!
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I think this is a product of Elliott's editors trying to squeeze too much output out of him. Usually when that happens we get a harmless "list" article, but this time he hung a breaking ball on a 3-2 count when he had a base open for an intentional walk.
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Or have airlines enabled this destructive behavior and created a toxic and decidedly un-democratic culture of entitlement?
#52
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From what I've seen of the folks here, he hit it right on.
"OMG MY FLIGHT WAS 5 MINUTES LATE I WANT COMPENSATION"
"They closed my flight a half second early, why won't they pay for my hotel room? I'm PLATINUM"
"My flight was cancelled, WHY WON'T they put me in first class on another airline, even tho I had a coach ticket, I'm a PLAT"
"OMG MY FLIGHT WAS 5 MINUTES LATE I WANT COMPENSATION"
"They closed my flight a half second early, why won't they pay for my hotel room? I'm PLATINUM"
"My flight was cancelled, WHY WON'T they put me in first class on another airline, even tho I had a coach ticket, I'm a PLAT"
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i do not like the term "gate lice", that some fter's use for people, that is very offensive and rude to speak of people like that, and by the way what is the difference whether one boards first,middle or last, the plane leaves at the same time and gets there at the same time, for the person in the front, middle or back of plane, i would think that it would be more important where one sat, i.e.- first class or business class as opposed to economy class, rather than when one boarded the plane, just my 2 cents worth. thanks for your time.
kctigers.
kctigers.
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Same amount of overhead space, and many more carry-ons.
Getting on first will have it's distinct advantage.
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Can't believe he was able to pass off a cheap shot blaming elite fliers as the bane of the air industry as "travel journalism".
Took advantage of the "send me your comments" section at end of article to state my opinion; I encourage other FT's to do the same.
Bet all this is because his upgrade didn't clear!
Took advantage of the "send me your comments" section at end of article to state my opinion; I encourage other FT's to do the same.
Bet all this is because his upgrade didn't clear!
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FT'ers maybe, elites as a whole? No way. I've dated a few F/As and I have a few FAs in my family - they'd all agree that the elite pax are usually the worst because their elite status fosters a sense of entitlement. Trouble arises when that sense of entitlement makes them think that the rules don't apply to them. The stories I've heard......shocking.
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FT'ers maybe, elites as a whole? No way. I've dated a few F/As and I have a few FAs in my family - they'd all agree that the elite pax are usually the worst because their elite status fosters a sense of entitlement. Trouble arises when that sense of entitlement makes them think that the rules don't apply to them. The stories I've heard......shocking.
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i do not like the term "gate lice", that some fter's use for people, that is very offensive and rude to speak of people like that, and by the way what is the difference whether one boards first,middle or last, the plane leaves at the same time and gets there at the same time, for the person in the front, middle or back of plane, i would think that it would be more important where one sat, i.e.- first class or business class as opposed to economy class, rather than when one boarded the plane, just my 2 cents worth. thanks for your time.
kctigers.
kctigers.
As for it not mattering when one gets on a plane, it has been scientifically proven that when the overhead bins are full then additional items can't be put in the overhead bins. More and more people now want to carry everything they own onto the plane. I only carry a computer backpack, but it is absolutely vital that it be placed in the overhead bin as I can't stretch out my legs if it is placed under the seat in front of me. For that reason, it is very, very important to get on the plane fairly early to claim a small speck of bin space before everyone tries to load their suitcases into them.