MR within Canada?
May 29, 2008 | 3:51 pm
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YHZ. Previously YYC
Posts: 1,954
MR within Canada?
So, I know a lot of MR can happen in the USA.
I looked through several pages of the Mileage run board, and there are no mileage runs intra Canada.
It's so expensive to travel within Canada. It's not surprising to find it cheaper to fly to Asia than it is to fly within Canada.
I've never done a MR, but I'd like to do one without the commitment of going into the USA.
Anyone ever done an Intra Canada MR, If there is such a thing.
I looked through several pages of the Mileage run board, and there are no mileage runs intra Canada.
It's so expensive to travel within Canada. It's not surprising to find it cheaper to fly to Asia than it is to fly within Canada.
I've never done a MR, but I'd like to do one without the commitment of going into the USA.
Anyone ever done an Intra Canada MR, If there is such a thing.
May 29, 2008 | 5:30 pm
#2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: ORD
Programs: nobody
Posts: 1,837
So, I know a lot of MR can happen in the USA.
I looked through several pages of the Mileage run board, and there are no mileage runs intra Canada.
It's so expensive to travel within Canada. It's not surprising to find it cheaper to fly to Asia than it is to fly within Canada.
I've never done a MR, but I'd like to do one without the commitment of going into the USA.
Anyone ever done an Intra Canada MR, If there is such a thing.
I looked through several pages of the Mileage run board, and there are no mileage runs intra Canada.
It's so expensive to travel within Canada. It's not surprising to find it cheaper to fly to Asia than it is to fly within Canada.
I've never done a MR, but I'd like to do one without the commitment of going into the USA.
Anyone ever done an Intra Canada MR, If there is such a thing.
May 29, 2008 | 8:30 pm
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Little dot in Asia
Programs: AA-PP, HL-DM, MR-LTP, HY-LTG
Posts: 26,017
Get one to HKG... or LHR (where's nearest) from YHZ on AC. Sorry the choice of airlines are kinda limited.
May 29, 2008 | 8:39 pm
#4
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,760
I think AC is just too expensive to make a pure MR ever feasible. The best you can really hope for is to add a stopovere on a business trip. i've started flying LHR-YUL via Toronto in part for the extra 1600 miles (and to get XM aircraft) for example.
If there ever was a MR available I think what you would have to watch out for is a route that westjet flies where westjet put n a promotion and AC matched it but without tweaking their routing rules. If it happend it would probably be something like YYC-YUL via YHZ or something like that.
Even then as the other poster said they would probably only match it with a T fare. You need them to do a T+ fare to earn miles. Assumin you're accumulating with AP. A UA MR on AC might be possible with T fares, not sure.
If there ever was a MR available I think what you would have to watch out for is a route that westjet flies where westjet put n a promotion and AC matched it but without tweaking their routing rules. If it happend it would probably be something like YYC-YUL via YHZ or something like that.
Even then as the other poster said they would probably only match it with a T fare. You need them to do a T+ fare to earn miles. Assumin you're accumulating with AP. A UA MR on AC might be possible with T fares, not sure.
May 29, 2008 | 9:33 pm
#5
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC
Programs: Aeroplan; PriorityClub
Posts: 935
How about SEATTLE?
It's a lot cheaper than YVR if you can get A class all the way. On this itinerary, 2 of the flights have only 1 seat left. You would have to pay for a hotel near Sea-Tac Airport. The return has been constructed so that you would fly overnight on the return; this allows you time to zigzag both in the west and the east and earn a lot of extra miles, in particular the YOW-YUL.
Here is 7 segments with a 18-minute connection in YEG, but you could cut it to 6 segments by omitting the inter-Alberta flight; the reason for that flight is the chance to earn 500 easy miles.
The return:
Total is about $595 plus your Seattle expenses. You would earn 14 segments.
Miles:
= 6562 [-94-226-153-127-127-153-226-94 = -1180]
-1180 [+500 X 8 = +4000]
+4000
= 9382 approximate miles as these are slightly different that the awards given by Aeroplan.
This is from a current sale fare:
AC 192.00 A21AQSTP 21+ --/-- ++ 02MAY/30JUNC
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TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION:
Using this same itinerary, but omitting the YVR-SEA-YVR sectors, the pricing is over $400 higher and would earn 1000 less miles and 2 less segments. Still a decent MR for those who prefer not to go in to the US!
Code:
AC 661A 24JUN YHZYUL 0625 0705 * TU
AC8981A 24JUN YULYOW 0825 0900 * TU
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
AC 447A 24JUN YOWYYZ 1000 1105 * TU
AC 173A 24JUN YYZYYC 1200 1412 * TU
AC8148A 24JUN YYCYEG 1430 1519 * TU
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
AC8287A 24JUN YEGYVR 1600 1634 * TU
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
AC8099A 24JUN YVRSEA 1850 1939 * TU
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
YHZ AC X/YMQ AC X/YOW AC X/YTO AC X/YEA AC X/YYC AC X/YVR AC
SEA Q7.60Q50.71 194.73A21AQSTP NUC253.04END ROE0.98596
FARE CAD 249.49 TAX 7.94CA TAX 18.00SQ TAX 15.22US TAX 4.94XA
TAX 6.92XY TAX 1.30RC TAX 13.27XG TOT CAD 317.08
The return:
Code:
AC8096A 25JUN SEAYVR 1505 1555 * WE
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
AC 248A 25JUN YVRYEG 1855 2120 * WE
AC8163A 25JUN YEGYYC 2230 2320 * WE
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
AC 146A 26JUN YYCYYZ 0015 0607 * TH
AC 442A 26JUN YYZYOW 0810 0910 * TH
AC8776A 26JUN YOWYUL 1030 1110 * TH
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
AC8768A 26JUN YULYHZ 1155 1418 * TH
OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ
SEA AC X/YVR AC X/YEA AC X/YYC AC X/YTO AC X/YOW AC X/YMQ AC
YHZ Q7.50Q50.00 192.00A21AQSTP NUC249.50END ROE1.0
FARE USD 249.50 EQU CAD 246.58 TAX 8.00SQ TAX 2.47AY TAX
15.22US TAX 4.45XF TAX 0.40XG TOT CAD 277.12
Miles:
Code:
ATFQ PRICING MILEAGES
AIRPORT
YHZ YUL 501
YUL YOW 94
YOW YYZ 226
YYZ YYC 1676
YYC YEG 153
YEG YVR 504
YVR SEA 127
SEA YVR 127
YVR YEG 504
YEG YYC 153
YYC YYZ 1676
YYZ YOW 226
YOW YUL 94
YUL YHZ 501
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TOTAL AIR MILES: 6562
-1180 [+500 X 8 = +4000]
+4000
= 9382 approximate miles as these are slightly different that the awards given by Aeroplan.
This is from a current sale fare:
AC 192.00 A21AQSTP 21+ --/-- ++ 02MAY/30JUNC
************************************************** ******************************
************************************************** ******************************
TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION:
Using this same itinerary, but omitting the YVR-SEA-YVR sectors, the pricing is over $400 higher and would earn 1000 less miles and 2 less segments. Still a decent MR for those who prefer not to go in to the US!
Code:
YHZ AC X/YMQ AC X/YOW AC X/YTO AC X/YYC AC X/YEA AC YVR Q45.00Q20.00Q3.00 359.00A0SWTPC AC X/YEA AC X/YYC AC X/YTO AC X/YOW AC X/YMQ AC YHZ Q45.00Q20.00Q3.00 359.00A0SWTPC CAD854.00END FARE CAD 854.00 TAX 9.34CA TAX 41.00SQ TAX 113.53RC TAX 1.55XG TOT CAD 1019.42
Last edited by thefareguru; May 29, 2008 at 9:40 pm
