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MR within Canada?

So, I know a lot of MR can happen in the USA.
I looked through several pages of the Mileage run board, and there are no mileage runs intra Canada.
It's so expensive to travel within Canada. It's not surprising to find it cheaper to fly to Asia than it is to fly within Canada.
I've never done a MR, but I'd like to do one without the commitment of going into the USA.
Anyone ever done an Intra Canada MR, If there is such a thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotboy1985YYC (Post 9796853)

Thanks to duopoly on AC and WestJet. Also with AC the cheapest fare get 0 EQM, it is kind of pointless to do MR.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotboy1985YYC (Post 9796853)

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I've never done a MR, but I'd like to do one without the commitment of going into the USA.
Anyone ever done an Intra Canada MR, If there is such a thing.

Get one to HKG... or LHR (where's nearest) from YHZ on AC. Sorry the choice of airlines are kinda limited.

I think AC is just too expensive to make a pure MR ever feasible. The best you can really hope for is to add a stopovere on a business trip. i've started flying LHR-YUL via Toronto in part for the extra 1600 miles (and to get XM aircraft) for example.

If there ever was a MR available I think what you would have to watch out for is a route that westjet flies where westjet put n a promotion and AC matched it but without tweaking their routing rules. If it happend it would probably be something like YYC-YUL via YHZ or something like that.

Even then as the other poster said they would probably only match it with a T fare. You need them to do a T+ fare to earn miles. Assumin you're accumulating with AP. A UA MR on AC might be possible with T fares, not sure.

How about SEATTLE?

It's a lot cheaper than YVR if you can get A class all the way. On this itinerary, 2 of the flights have only 1 seat left. You would have to pay for a hotel near Sea-Tac Airport. The return has been constructed so that you would fly overnight on the return; this allows you time to zigzag both in the west and the east and earn a lot of extra miles, in particular the YOW-YUL.

Code:

AC 661A 24JUN YHZYUL  0625  0705  *         TU

AC8981A 24JUN YULYOW  0825  0900  *         TU

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 

AC 447A 24JUN YOWYYZ  1000  1105  *         TU

AC 173A 24JUN YYZYYC  1200  1412  *         TU

AC8148A 24JUN YYCYEG  1430  1519  *         TU

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 

AC8287A 24JUN YEGYVR  1600  1634  *         TU

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 

AC8099A 24JUN YVRSEA  1850  1939  *         TU

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 



YHZ AC X/YMQ AC X/YOW AC X/YTO AC X/YEA AC X/YYC AC X/YVR AC 

SEA Q7.60Q50.71 194.73A21AQSTP NUC253.04END ROE0.98596       

FARE CAD 249.49 TAX 7.94CA TAX 18.00SQ TAX 15.22US TAX 4.94XA

TAX 6.92XY TAX 1.30RC TAX 13.27XG TOT CAD 317.08

Here is 7 segments with a 18-minute connection in YEG, but you could cut it to 6 segments by omitting the inter-Alberta flight; the reason for that flight is the chance to earn 500 easy miles.

The return:

Code:

AC8096A 25JUN SEAYVR  1505  1555  *         WE

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 

AC 248A 25JUN YVRYEG  1855  2120  *         WE

AC8163A 25JUN YEGYYC  2230  2320  *         WE

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 

AC 146A 26JUN YYCYYZ  0015  0607  *         TH

AC 442A 26JUN YYZYOW  0810  0910  *         TH

AC8776A 26JUN YOWYUL  1030  1110  *         TH

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 

AC8768A 26JUN YULYHZ  1155  1418  *         TH

      OPERATED BY AIR CANADA JAZZ                 



SEA AC X/YVR AC X/YEA AC X/YYC AC X/YTO AC X/YOW AC X/YMQ AC

YHZ Q7.50Q50.00 192.00A21AQSTP NUC249.50END ROE1.0          

FARE USD 249.50 EQU CAD 246.58 TAX 8.00SQ TAX 2.47AY TAX    

15.22US TAX 4.45XF TAX 0.40XG TOT CAD 277.12

Total is about $595 plus your Seattle expenses. You would earn 14 segments.

Miles:

Code:

                     ATFQ PRICING MILEAGES 

AIRPORT                                    

YHZ YUL                   501              

YUL YOW                    94              

YOW YYZ                   226              

YYZ YYC                  1676              

YYC YEG                   153              

YEG YVR                   504              

YVR SEA                   127              

SEA YVR                   127              

YVR YEG                   504              

YEG YYC                   153              

YYC YYZ                  1676

YYZ YOW                   226

YOW YUL                    94

YUL YHZ                   501

                     --------

TOTAL AIR MILES:         6562

= 6562 [-94-226-153-127-127-153-226-94 = -1180]
-1180 [+500 X 8 = +4000]
+4000
= 9382 approximate miles as these are slightly different that the awards given by Aeroplan.

This is from a current sale fare:
AC 192.00 A21AQSTP 21+ --/-- ++ 02MAY/30JUNC
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TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION:
Using this same itinerary, but omitting the YVR-SEA-YVR sectors, the pricing is over $400 higher and would earn 1000 less miles and 2 less segments. Still a decent MR for those who prefer not to go in to the US!

Code:

YHZ AC X/YMQ AC X/YOW AC X/YTO AC X/YYC AC X/YEA AC YVR       

Q45.00Q20.00Q3.00 359.00A0SWTPC AC X/YEA AC X/YYC AC X/YTO AC 

X/YOW AC X/YMQ AC YHZ Q45.00Q20.00Q3.00 359.00A0SWTPC         

CAD854.00END                                                  

FARE CAD 854.00 TAX 9.34CA TAX 41.00SQ TAX 113.53RC TAX 1.55XG

TOT CAD 1019.42

There's a couple of threads on creative routes on AC on the first page of the AC Forum right now.