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Old Aug 8, 2007, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by UnitedSkies
As for advertising, the strict definition of advertising is any online of print/TV/radio media that is run by airlines. As far as I know, airlines conducting business in the U.S. include fuel surcharges by requirement of the law.
The DoT requires *all* sellers of travel in the US (not just airlines) to include any and all "fuel surcharges" in the advertised base/headline price ...

Prohibition on Deceptive Practices In the Marketing of AirfareTo the Public Using the Internet :
http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules/20010118.htm
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 5:19 am
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The revenue accounting settlement rules for surcharges are different than for the filed fare which is partially why airlines price this way.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 9:12 am
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While is is even more complicated to ask for, perhaps it is a good time to do so if the problem is related. The tool on FC that lets you list in ppm from a particular destination:
http://www.farecompare.com/search/fl...e=0&sortby=PPM
Uses the direct mileage between the originating airport and the destination airport. If the algorithm you're working on will account for routing, would it be possible to calculate the ppm based on the actual BIS miles? It can substantially change the ordering of said list..
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by brarrr
While is is even more complicated to ask for, perhaps it is a good time to do so if the problem is related. The tool on FC that lets you list in ppm from a particular destination:
http://www.farecompare.com/search/fl...e=0&sortby=PPM
Uses the direct mileage between the originating airport and the destination airport. If the algorithm you're working on will account for routing, would it be possible to calculate the ppm based on the actual BIS miles? It can substantially change the ordering of said list..
WHICH ROUTING would FareCompare use?

The most direct/obvious one?

Most self respecting MRers don't care about that one - but rather the longest routing that makes sense (for some, max 3 segs each way; for others a different measure).

There is no direct connect between what the routing rules specify because:
- The routing rules include routes no longer flown
- The routing rules include routes flown, but not with schedules that work from one city to the next.
Airline's current schedules are constantly in flux.
Every tool that has been developed to calculate the maximum routing has been deficient because it could not fully take the above into account.

The wise MRer will continue to use FareCompare to identify fares worth exploring then explore the routing rules (along with schedules on his/her desired dates) to determine the fare's merit for his/her MR.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by wanaflyforless
WHICH ROUTING would FareCompare use?
A simple max/min/avg display is probably all that's necessary. Plus, with access to actual flight schedules from OAG and other sources, it isn't too extreme to attempt to eliminate routes not flown or routes not possible due to connection times.
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 11:48 am
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OT: extras and all in pricing.

It is illegal to offer airfares other than "all-in" within the UK. It is allowed to notify the "extras". It is illegal to call anything other than the government tax, a tax.

It is likely that the first significant evidence gathering against the airlines will take place over the next weekend.

If UA can do it ex-UK, that shows that AA could be in trouble!

spottie
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Old Aug 8, 2007, 7:10 pm
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That is a good UK rule!

Originally Posted by spotwelder
It is illegal to offer airfares other than "all-in" within the UK. It is allowed to notify the "extras". It is illegal to call anything other than the government tax, a tax.

It is likely that the first significant evidence gathering against the airlines will take place over the next weekend.

If UA can do it ex-UK, that shows that AA could be in trouble!

spottie
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