[PREM FARE GONE] YYZ-EUROPE/AFRICA $1500USD SkyTeam AF/KLM
Mar 12, 2022, 7:56 am
#48
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Mar 12, 2022, 8:03 am
#49
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Flying Blue Gold, Accor Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 669
Decisions, decisions… I have an Aeroplan booking on AC YYZ to CDG in 2 months. Booked using points on flexible fare in Y and got free upgrade to J. Cost me 55K points and $~800 Cdn. YYZ to CDG on J is only $2000. Tempted to book that and keep my points on AC for future travel, but the non refundable fare on AF is worrying given the current geopolitical situation. I’d rather fly AF business product over AC for their hard and soft product. Can’t decide!
Mar 12, 2022, 8:23 am
#50
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: flyingblue
Posts: 32
Decisions, decisions… I have an Aeroplan booking on AC YYZ to CDG in 2 months. Booked using points on flexible fare in Y and got free upgrade to J. Cost me 55K points and $~800 Cdn. YYZ to CDG on J is only $2000. Tempted to book that and keep my points on AC for future travel, but the non refundable fare on AF is worrying given the current geopolitical situation. I’d rather fly AF business product over AC for their hard and soft product. Can’t decide!
I don’t know AC in j but AF is nice (sometimes great… if cabin crew wants)
Mar 12, 2022, 10:04 am
#51
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: YUL
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Thank you so much for this, booked YUL-FLR for the wife to go see her sister and nieces that she has not seen in over two years. 1.5kUSD for J in summer is fantastic.
Mar 12, 2022, 10:59 am
#53
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: WAS
Programs: Free Agent
Posts: 1,757
YYZ-AMS-JNB-AMS-YYZ in January of 2023 for 10 days. Some of those dates should still be available per Google Flights. We paid the ~16xx fare on KL, but were ready to pay the $19xx on AF if that was the only option. KL is our preference over AF.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:06 am
#54
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan, Flying Blue Gold, Accor Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 669
never flew AF J, but AC hard product is pretty good, but the soft product is meh.
Mar 12, 2022, 11:45 am
#55
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: London/JAX
Programs: DL PM, BA Gold, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Gold, Radisson Premium, Wyndham Gold, GE/CLEAR
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Just booked YYZ-AMS-JNB-CDG-YYZ for an 8 day trip June for $1900 in J and getting ~7400 MQD out of it, what a steal!
Mar 12, 2022, 1:41 pm
#56
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
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Booked YVR-AMS-CDG-MRU (and reverse) all KL/AF operated. 5 nights in MRU. Was a little tough to find with all Skyteam (many routes included Air Mauritius or Westjet) but found something in July.
$2030.18 per ticket, which seemed pretty good from the west coast to MRU in biz.
$2030.18 per ticket, which seemed pretty good from the west coast to MRU in biz.
Mar 12, 2022, 1:52 pm
#57
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Posts: 759
Curious if you had located anything along the lines of XXX-CDG-RUN and terminating in Reunion. Ironically, you can piece together XXX-CDG-RUN-MRU, with the RUN-MRU leg operated by Air Mauritius so you still get AF metal on the Paris-Reunion leg for maximum earnings. But I can't find anything that terminates in RUN ... maybe its not part of the fare.
I've been to MRU (its fantastic, by the way!) but I'm not going down that way again and skipping Reunion. nested MRU-RUN roundtrips are another $350
I may just have to eat that, or we'll end up doing some kind of JRO / ZNZ open jaw with a safari instead. Can't complain about options with this fare, that's for darn sure!
Mar 12, 2022, 2:07 pm
#58
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Programs: Delta Diamond, Delta 2MM, HHonors Gold, Bonvoy Titanium
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Curious if you had located anything along the lines of XXX-CDG-RUN and terminating in Reunion. Ironically, you can piece together XXX-CDG-RUN-MRU, with the RUN-MRU leg operated by Air Mauritius so you still get AF metal on the Paris-Reunion leg for maximum earnings. But I can't find anything that terminates in RUN ... maybe its not part of the fare.
I've been to MRU (its fantastic, by the way!) but I'm not going down that way again and skipping Reunion. nested MRU-RUN roundtrips are another $350 I may just have to eat that, or we'll end up doing some kind of JRO / ZNZ open jaw with a safari instead.
Can't complain about options with this fare, that's for darn sure!
I've been to MRU (its fantastic, by the way!) but I'm not going down that way again and skipping Reunion. nested MRU-RUN roundtrips are another $350
I may just have to eat that, or we'll end up doing some kind of JRO / ZNZ open jaw with a safari instead.Can't complain about options with this fare, that's for darn sure!
This is my first time to MRU. Looking forward!
Mar 12, 2022, 3:18 pm
#59
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 2,594
If you're coming from Southeast Michigan, YXU (London, ON) look to be right around US$ 1700 on Skyteam (with YXU-YYZ on either Westjet or AC), but more interestingly, for about $100-150 more, you can use various Star combinations (using LH/AC overwater) from either YXU or YQG (Windsor).
Mar 12, 2022, 3:24 pm
#60
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Anyone with recent experience with AF/KL flight vouchers? I have 3 upcoming trips in the $2100 range: one prior to the Jun 30 refundable cutoff, purchased through Priceline, and 2 after purchased via airfrance.us. Thinking about canceling them to take advantage of this deal and getting $1500 or so that I can use for later flights.
The pre-Jun 30 one should be fully refundable, though it may be an issue working with Priceline to get the refundable voucher. The other two are strictly non-refundable but fully changeable.
The current voucher rules say that:
For point #2, I assume "1 year from the date of issue" means date of issue of the voucher, correct? I think in the past it was always date of issue of the original ticket.
And for point #1, this reads that if I request a voucher for my current tickets today, then they'll expire on Mar 11, 2023. Which would also mean that I could use them up until Sep 11, 2023. And theoretically book anything through Sept 6, 2024 or so. My experience is that AF/KL load schedules about 360 days in advance.
Does this sound correct? Just trying to assess the risk of this strategy before pulling the trigger.
The pre-Jun 30 one should be fully refundable, though it may be an issue working with Priceline to get the refundable voucher. The other two are strictly non-refundable but fully changeable.
The current voucher rules say that:
- "You can use your travel voucher to make a new booking up to 6 months after its original expiration date if it was issued after March 2020. You can book any available flight, directly online or via the mobile app, regardless of the travel date." and
- "In the current context of the Covid-19 crisis, a travel voucher is a credit, which is valid for 1 year from the date of issue."
For point #2, I assume "1 year from the date of issue" means date of issue of the voucher, correct? I think in the past it was always date of issue of the original ticket.
And for point #1, this reads that if I request a voucher for my current tickets today, then they'll expire on Mar 11, 2023. Which would also mean that I could use them up until Sep 11, 2023. And theoretically book anything through Sept 6, 2024 or so. My experience is that AF/KL load schedules about 360 days in advance.
Does this sound correct? Just trying to assess the risk of this strategy before pulling the trigger.