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Please post you departure dates and routes below: March MARCH 07 BCN - FCO - LAX Madeiraportugal MARCH 11 PacificTwo MARCH 11 BCN-FCO-JFK UAPremierGuy MARCH 14 LAX - CDG - FCO - BCN Madeiraportugal MARCH 19 BCN-FCO-CDG GlennHaak MARCH 19 MAD-FCO-JFK beyounged MARCH 20 CDG-LAX GlennHaak MARCH 25 BCN-FCO-JFK JonEJacobs MARCH 25 JFK-FCO-MAD beyounged MARCH 28 LAX-FCO-BCN GlennHaak April APRIL 01 BCN-FCO-LAX - idiosyncrasy APRIL 04 BCN - FCO - CDG (+1) - LAX Mister Miles APRIL 05 JFK-FCO-BCN JonEJacobs APRIL 08 BCN - FCO - LAX - honzeek_cz APRIL 08 FCO-CDG JNLentertainment APRIL 09 CDG-LAX - JNLentertainment APRIL 09 LAX - JFK - FCO - BCN Mister Miles APRIL 23 LAX-CDG honzeek_cz APRIL 24 CDG-FCO-BCN honzeek_cz APRIL 25 MAD-LIN honzeek_cz APRIL 25 LAX-CDG-FCO-BCN idiosyncrasy APRIL 26 LIN-CDG-LAX honzeek_cz APRIL 29 LAX-FCO honzeek_cz APRIL 30 FCO-MAD honzeek_cz APRIL 30 MAD-FCO Maayan May MAY 01 FCO-LAX Maayan MAY 01 BCN-FCO-JFK ramalair MAY 02 BCN-FCO-JFK e30st MAY 02 BCN-FCO / MAY 03 FCO-LAX Travel-Quinten MAY 02 BCN-FCO-LAX Wildwater MAY 02 BCN-FCO / MAY 03 FCO-LAX bmibaby737 MAY 06 JFK-FCO-BCN (+1) e30st MAY 06 LAX-FCO-BCN (+1) Travel-Quinten MAY 06 LAX-FCO-BCN Wildwater MAY 06 LAX-JFK-FCO / MAY 07 FCO-BCN bmibaby737 MAY 08 LAX-FCO-MAD Maayan MAY 09 JFK-FCO-BCN ramalair MAY 09 LAX- FCO JNLentertainment MAY 09 FCO-BCN JNLentertainment September October November Nov 7 BCN - FCO - JFK ExpatSomchai Nov 11 JFK - FCO - BCN (+1) ExpatSomchai
[PREM FARE GONE] AZ: BCN - LAX £456 in J....
Jan 25, 2019, 4:29 pm
#482
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PWM/CDG
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Alitalia is not a one-man operation. You cannot ring up and speak to the person that will ultimately decide on the fate of these tickets, so engaging with someone on an Alitalia phoneline, or getting them to "confirm" that the reservation exists in the form that you can already see yourself by checking your reservation, in no way prevents the possibility of future changes being made to your ticket.
Think of it this way - today, you might have a confirmed ticket, on a Lufthansa flight that is set to operate without delay, and a specific seat has been assigned. That does not insulate you against any future flight changes/cancellations/bumping. Lufthansa may change the plane type tomorrow and you lose your seat; problems may occur and the flight gets delayed or cancelled; they may severely overbook and your confirmed ticket may not be accepted for travel on the service you were previously advised would operate without any hitch; they may decide to cancel the route, and rebook you on a completely different itinerary on their partners or offer you a full refund. Being assured to day that something is true, doesn't mean it can't change in the future.
Speaking to a third-party contractor sitting in a call centre in Albania and "enquiring" about your reservation will just result in a low-level employee - or non-employee - merely telling you what they see on their screen, which is unlikely to be any different than what you can call up on your screen. It in no way acts as a "test" for Alitalia to immediately come to a final decision on the fate of your ticket, so ringing up in order to "secure" your ticket (if that's the reason) is pointless. The person who you speak to will have no authority to make any such decisions, and is unlikely to have any interest in flagging your ticket for further investigation (you can be sure AZ know all about your ticket already). The person you are speaking to is, in fact, more interested in getting you off the line ASAP.
By all means, ring up for a seat assignment if you want. Just don't expect that merely calling up will fortify your booking in any meaningful way.
Think of it this way - today, you might have a confirmed ticket, on a Lufthansa flight that is set to operate without delay, and a specific seat has been assigned. That does not insulate you against any future flight changes/cancellations/bumping. Lufthansa may change the plane type tomorrow and you lose your seat; problems may occur and the flight gets delayed or cancelled; they may severely overbook and your confirmed ticket may not be accepted for travel on the service you were previously advised would operate without any hitch; they may decide to cancel the route, and rebook you on a completely different itinerary on their partners or offer you a full refund. Being assured to day that something is true, doesn't mean it can't change in the future.
Speaking to a third-party contractor sitting in a call centre in Albania and "enquiring" about your reservation will just result in a low-level employee - or non-employee - merely telling you what they see on their screen, which is unlikely to be any different than what you can call up on your screen. It in no way acts as a "test" for Alitalia to immediately come to a final decision on the fate of your ticket, so ringing up in order to "secure" your ticket (if that's the reason) is pointless. The person who you speak to will have no authority to make any such decisions, and is unlikely to have any interest in flagging your ticket for further investigation (you can be sure AZ know all about your ticket already). The person you are speaking to is, in fact, more interested in getting you off the line ASAP.
By all means, ring up for a seat assignment if you want. Just don't expect that merely calling up will fortify your booking in any meaningful way.
While this is not equivalent, by any means, for example to CX or NZ issuing a statement, it tells us one thing: the tickets are currently open for use and there is no derogatory remark on the booking for the reservations agent to see. Also, the first person to call got a nasty response and was told to wait for a call that never came, and their tickets remained unchanged; but everyone who called after that was told that all is well.
Also, these tickets were now issued more than 3 weeks ago, and while the following is true:
If a decision is taken to void/cancel these tickets, it can still be taken at any time, and will be taken in a totally different venue, by people of a much higher pay grade. And they will do so on their own schedule - they will not be bound in any way by the timing of your call.
Ringing up to have a low-level Alitalia employee/non-employee confirm what you already know - that the booking exists - in no way gives you any further evidence/protection than you already have by your e-ticket and printed confirmations.
Your booking is valid, until it isn't.
Your booking is valid, until it isn't.
Jan 26, 2019, 7:12 am
#483
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 96
Apart from that you might want to look into flexible/refundable bookings for the hotels and flights you require around this itinerary @:-)
Jan 26, 2019, 9:14 am
#484
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: BUD
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 94
@honzeek_cz just looking at the wiki, are you going to do back-to-back ticketing, combining it with another LAX-EU return? Is it safe to do back to back ticketing on TATL flights? I have a good fueldump opportunity, but the 7-day minimum stay makes it unusable for me, however with back to back I could use it.
Jan 27, 2019, 5:13 pm
#485
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
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Posts: 1,487
Was this originally posted in the premium fares subforum ?
Is that where all of these [PREM FARE GONE] posts / threads are initially posted while they are live ?
Is that where all of these [PREM FARE GONE] posts / threads are initially posted while they are live ?
Feb 2, 2019, 3:55 am
#491
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: AMS
Posts: 585
Cancel or no-show on non-refundable ticket? I'm sure this is one of the least likely lines AZ can take here...
Feb 2, 2019, 7:47 am
#492
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Feb 3, 2019, 7:29 am
#494
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: United Kingdom
Programs: BAEC Blue, Flying Blue Silver, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold
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Feb 3, 2019, 7:56 am
#495
Join Date: Jan 2019
Programs: TP Gold / Star Alliance Gold
Posts: 16
Imagine, I'm making check in. They say.. " There was an error. Your ticket is on X - Economy, not E. We are sorry."
What are my options? Just to be prepared.
But still, i think AZ will honour this. Why? they are not loosing money, just giving up on something.
Had options to go from BCN to LAX in economy for 300usd.
Last edited by Madeiraportugal; Feb 4, 2019 at 4:20 am