2017 AA EQD Run
#46
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 328
I know you're trying to share. AA has no way of finding the one you're referring to. But neither do we ;-)
Let's share freely here.
Let's share freely here.
I haven't tried booking it, but there appears to be wide availability on a pretty common O/D pair from Canada to Asia, in J, for better than 2 EQD/$ (as opposed to < 1 on any AA flight due to taxes), and $0.08/EQM.
It's not exactly a secret, if I could find it in 10 minutes from the time I went "hmm, how might I get rid of the EQD issue without the right credit card" to "yeah, I'd do that trip in November if I need it and have vacation time at the destination" then I think some intern at AA has already put it on a list.
It's not exactly a secret, if I could find it in 10 minutes from the time I went "hmm, how might I get rid of the EQD issue without the right credit card" to "yeah, I'd do that trip in November if I need it and have vacation time at the destination" then I think some intern at AA has already put it on a list.
#47
Join Date: Jan 2012
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AA recently also had very good J fares to PEK and PVG from YYZ for about 5.5c/eqm (although EQD not great because of AA metal).
#48
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I really don't understand the desire to keep this hush-hush. What people are looking for is still low-cpm flights, except that for EQD they need to be on a partner.
#49
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#50
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I think the concern, rightly or wrongly, is that with certain partner airlines having pretty widespread sales on premium fares, AA could adjust the earning rate on those partners in certain fare classes to make them less lucrative. No idea how many people are actually making use of these fares for this purpose give that they're pretty global and many require positioning, but that's the concern.
#51
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I think the concern, rightly or wrongly, is that with certain partner airlines having pretty widespread sales on premium fares, AA could adjust the earning rate on those partners in certain fare classes to make them less lucrative. No idea how many people are actually making use of these fares for this purpose give that they're pretty global and many require positioning, but that's the concern.
#52
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They may eventually do that. The system we have right now (EQMs based on mileage/class and an additional EQD requirement) may be only a way station to a system purely based on $ spent. Like VX is today.
#53
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Something-ist, Bombay Sapphire
Posts: 69
Booking w/distance based earnings
Looking for some help, and hoping this is an appropriate thread.
Trying to book a MR out of HKG. Built and priced out itinerary with ITA Matrix. My question is... what is the best way to book a complicated, multi-leg fare that will report as a AA special fare (distance based earning)?
Most "package vacations" do not work since there are many legs. AAvacations do not sell packages originating outside the USA. Am I missing an obvious solution?
Trying to book a MR out of HKG. Built and priced out itinerary with ITA Matrix. My question is... what is the best way to book a complicated, multi-leg fare that will report as a AA special fare (distance based earning)?
Most "package vacations" do not work since there are many legs. AAvacations do not sell packages originating outside the USA. Am I missing an obvious solution?
#54
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Looking for some help, and hoping this is an appropriate thread.
Trying to book a MR out of HKG. Built and priced out itinerary with ITA Matrix. My question is... what is the best way to book a complicated, multi-leg fare that will report as a AA special fare (distance based earning)?
Most "package vacations" do not work since there are many legs. AAvacations do not sell packages originating outside the USA. Am I missing an obvious solution?
Trying to book a MR out of HKG. Built and priced out itinerary with ITA Matrix. My question is... what is the best way to book a complicated, multi-leg fare that will report as a AA special fare (distance based earning)?
Most "package vacations" do not work since there are many legs. AAvacations do not sell packages originating outside the USA. Am I missing an obvious solution?
The AA Special Fares page lists the possibilities:
Bulk fares
Cruise fares
Consolidator fares
Discounted or inclusive tour packages
Vacation packages, including American Airlines Vacations® (AAV) packages
Other tickets where the fare isn't disclosed, excluding bookings made through priceline.com or hotwire.com where the carrier isn't disclosed before buying
Cruise fares
Consolidator fares
Discounted or inclusive tour packages
Vacation packages, including American Airlines Vacations® (AAV) packages
Other tickets where the fare isn't disclosed, excluding bookings made through priceline.com or hotwire.com where the carrier isn't disclosed before buying
You can, of course, get distance-based (but not quite as generous) by flying partner-marketed flights (presumably CX in your case), but be sure to check the CX table.
You should check out the EQD-earning thread.
#55
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: PHX, ICN
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Also looking for help. First off, as a newbie to this stuff, I appreciate all your work. I've been trying to use Expert Flyer effectively as well as Google Flights, but I don't have the touch yet.
My situation is this: 1 good trip gets us Platinum, but a great trip gets us PP. However, the great trip would probably need to be on a partner to maximize EQD if we flew PE or J. I'll add our info per the mileage run thread:
Departure Airport: PHX (really, any place we can get to easily, like LAX, LAS, DFW, etc)
Dollars needed: long haul PE/J $1.5 EQD/$1+ if possible would get us close to PP
Miles Needed: 12K for P, anything on top is a bonus towards PP
Required Spend or Budget: $2000 or less each (wife and I) if flying PE or J, $1500< for coach
Available Travel Dates: almost any time post June. Has to be a vacation, not just a MR.
Should we be looking hard now, or are there regular sales later in the year that we can just wait for? And I respect your desire for privacy so feel free to PM if you want to help (though the public announcement of the QR sale is the only reason we have any chance for status at all ).
My situation is this: 1 good trip gets us Platinum, but a great trip gets us PP. However, the great trip would probably need to be on a partner to maximize EQD if we flew PE or J. I'll add our info per the mileage run thread:
Departure Airport: PHX (really, any place we can get to easily, like LAX, LAS, DFW, etc)
Dollars needed: long haul PE/J $1.5 EQD/$1+ if possible would get us close to PP
Miles Needed: 12K for P, anything on top is a bonus towards PP
Required Spend or Budget: $2000 or less each (wife and I) if flying PE or J, $1500< for coach
Available Travel Dates: almost any time post June. Has to be a vacation, not just a MR.
Should we be looking hard now, or are there regular sales later in the year that we can just wait for? And I respect your desire for privacy so feel free to PM if you want to help (though the public announcement of the QR sale is the only reason we have any chance for status at all ).
#56
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: PHX
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Welcome to FlyerTalk.
The AA Special Fares page lists the possibilities:
Perhaps you can get one of those to work for you. If not, there are ways that have been known to sometimes work.
You can, of course, get distance-based (but not quite as generous) by flying partner-marketed flights (presumably CX in your case), but be sure to check the CX.
You should check out the EQD-earning thread.
The AA Special Fares page lists the possibilities:
Perhaps you can get one of those to work for you. If not, there are ways that have been known to sometimes work.
You can, of course, get distance-based (but not quite as generous) by flying partner-marketed flights (presumably CX in your case), but be sure to check the CX.
You should check out the EQD-earning thread.
I guess my question is narrowing down to.... Where can I book multi-leg MR's as a bulk fare, vacation package, or a consolidator fare? Would a regular travel agent bypass the fare reporting system? Would throwing on a rental car with a travel agent trip-up fare reporting? I'd like to stay on AA metal making this more difficult. Cheers!
Last edited by PHX_Flyer; Jan 28, 2017 at 9:18 am Reason: Edited for clarity.
#57
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Thanks for the reply Spammers and the heads up on the other thread.
I guess my question is narrowing down to.... Where can I book multi-leg MR's as a bulk fare, vacation package, or a consolidator fare? Would a regular travel agent bypass the fare reporting system? Would throwing on a rental car with a travel agent trip-up fare reporting? I'd like to stay on AA metal making this more difficult. Cheers!
I guess my question is narrowing down to.... Where can I book multi-leg MR's as a bulk fare, vacation package, or a consolidator fare? Would a regular travel agent bypass the fare reporting system? Would throwing on a rental car with a travel agent trip-up fare reporting? I'd like to stay on AA metal making this more difficult. Cheers!
The AA page says buying a vacation or tour package does it. I think you're best off dealing with a Travel Agent or a tour company which offers a package that will work for you. I know it is possible to get a consolidated fare through a TA, but whether one is available for your itinerary I couldn't say.
#58
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EQD's looked daunting at first but - after some careful study - my plan worked out to include one of the QR J Class fares LAX-SIN and I am about to do a YVR-CPT-ORD on BA in WT+. Between the two I will/have score(d) just shy of $9,000 EQD's. Add in my normal business travel and then a quick trip to Stockholm in Y (there are two of us going and no PE sale fares when we booked) it looks like Platinum Pro is a lock and I have an outside shot at EXP.
#59
Join Date: Mar 2016
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EQD Runs
Is there anything like the mileage run deals thread for EQD runs? And specific to AA? I did some searching but didn't see anything. There are EQD threads but mostly about how EQDs will be computed for someone's upcoming flights.
I'm basically looking for the best earned EQDs versus actual dollars spent. And I suspect this would be something useful to have based on available deals now and on a continuously updating basis.
As for my specific case, my girlfriend flies NYC->SFO for work a lot but her company only pays for her to be in economy. I'd like to get her EXP this year but based on her purchased flights as of now she'll have about a 10,000 EQM deficit and around a $3,000 EQD deficit. The extra miles will probably be easily covered by future work trips but she's definitely going to be missing EQDs.
I'm basically looking for the best earned EQDs versus actual dollars spent. And I suspect this would be something useful to have based on available deals now and on a continuously updating basis.
As for my specific case, my girlfriend flies NYC->SFO for work a lot but her company only pays for her to be in economy. I'd like to get her EXP this year but based on her purchased flights as of now she'll have about a 10,000 EQM deficit and around a $3,000 EQD deficit. The extra miles will probably be easily covered by future work trips but she's definitely going to be missing EQDs.