FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Mileage Run Discussion (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mileage-run-discussion-627/)
-   -   [PREM FARE GONE] FLR-HKG/ICN/NRT-DUS from 770€ / J (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mileage-run-discussion/1807794-prem-fare-gone-flr-hkg-icn-nrt-dus-770-j.html)

christravelblog Dec 10, 2016 11:32 am

Hey guys, wake up...... you can still book if you START in DUS.....and end in FLR
didn't check all but i booked to EZE (JUST NOW!!! via ebookers) about 800 UKP.
it's a bit more, but i'll take it AZ there, KL back

Ned1968 Dec 10, 2016 11:35 am

DUS-JFK-FLR for £535 still live on ebookers 14/15 April - outward on OW, return on Alitalia/AF

CAWineNerd Dec 10, 2016 11:36 am

It shows on ebookers, but you will not be able to book it.

vincewy Dec 10, 2016 11:38 am


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 27592430)
Here is one.

Other dates / routes give other prices.

If you look at this carefully, nearly all of the sub 1000 UKP fares have AZ involved so this is definitely part of the error fares. Next lowest is more like 2300 UKP from IB/AA.


Originally Posted by christravelblog (Post 27592464)
Hey guys, wake up...... you can still book if you START in DUS.....and end in FLR
didn't check all but i booked to EZE (JUST NOW!!! via ebookers) about 800 UKP.
it's a bit more, but i'll take it AZ there, KL back

This is correct but unlike Expedia in US you don't have 24-hour think/regret/change mind luxury for free, I just figured I'll have at least some use of the ticket before I pulled the trigger. At Expedia I booked 8 trips but ended up keeping only 1 I want, no way would I do this with eBookers if none gets cancelled/revoked (although unlikely).

Mauibaby2008 Dec 10, 2016 11:38 am

I'm a little disappointed after I booked just the following after seeing everybody else's creative routings :(

FLR - BKK (operated by Air France) AZ #
BKK - DUS Cathay

For $708 however my question is about crediting to Alaska. Assuming the first legs on AF metal do not automatically credit, I send in the boarding passes, and Alaska generally credits based on operating airline, right? This will be the difference between a great deal and an amazing deal 😀

tmpvt Dec 10, 2016 11:38 am

Well DUS-JFK-FLR could be a good positioning flight for me as I come from Germany and have to get to Florence!:D:D

Ned1968 Dec 10, 2016 11:41 am


Originally Posted by CAWineNerd (Post 27592478)
It shows on ebookers, but you will not be able to book it.

Looks bookable to me. I booked FLR-SFO/SEA-DUS and FLR-BOS-DUS; failed to accept the final stage on Chrome, but IE went through and I have emails with ticket numbers for both trips. I don't need JFK as well or I'd push the button on that too

christravelblog Dec 10, 2016 11:41 am


Originally Posted by vincewy (Post 27592486)
This is correct but unlike Expedia in US you don't have 24-hour think/regret/change mind luxury for free, I just figured I'll have at least some use of the ticket before I pulled the trigger. At Expedia I booked 8 trips but ended up keeping only 1 I want, no way would I do this with eBookers if none gets cancelled/revoked (although unlikely).

i have no flexibility i need to make about 8-10 flights a year to conferences. I just book those. if cancelled; better luck next time. if ok good.

so i'm set for 2017. lets cross fingers.

ManFactSpendLA Dec 10, 2016 11:46 am

I can only imagine how bad this is. Yesterday on my EY flight from AUH - DUS the cabin was pretty much open, now on expert flyer 10 seats have been taken and my 2 makes 12. WOW!

CosmicGirl Dec 10, 2016 11:46 am


Originally Posted by tmpvt (Post 27592488)
Well DUS-JFK-FLR could be a good positioning flight for me as I come from Germany and have to get to Florence!:D:D

Why did I not think of this :D

BA6501 Dec 10, 2016 11:48 am

If AZ decide not to cancel these, would we be informed or would just see that our bookings have not been cancelled?

henkybaby Dec 10, 2016 11:50 am


Originally Posted by tmpvt (Post 27592488)
Well DUS-JFK-FLR could be a good positioning flight for me as I come from Germany and have to get to Florence!:D:D

Wow. That made a scary amount of sense to me. Much more than it should have. :cool:

Gnopps Dec 10, 2016 11:51 am

An idea how to get in on the original deal still
 
An idea that should work in theory on how to book any itinerary still:

The fare is still available, only most long-haul fuel surcharges have been increased. The fare is fully flexible, full cancellation and rebooking allowed. Booking intra-Europe or certain long-haul destinations is possible at sub €500. This opens for a possibility to get in on the deal also now that it is "too late".

Ticket changes on unused tickets are priced according to the applicable fare on the date of the change, i.e. if you book now and change tomorrow when the fare has gone up you will pay the new price.

However, as soon as the first leg has been flown fare recalculation is done using the fare in effect on the day of purchase. I.e. if you buy today, fly tomorrow and then change then the fare will be recalcuated using today's price.

In theory, it is thus possible to book any itineray, (e.g. DUS-LON-ROM-FLR) and then as soon as you have flown the first leg (DUS-LON) you go to the ticket counter and change the rest of the itinerary to something more to your liking and on dates that you like (e.g. DUS-LON-NYC-SEL-PAR-FLR). You should then only be charged the change in taxes and surcharges, which should equal what people have been paying for these crazy itineraries so far.

So this should work in theory. Some problems that may arise are that AZ may not honour any changes but the bigger problem still I'd say is finding an agent who is capable of doing this (both in terms of knowledge on how to work the system to make this happen and being willing to do so). There may also be other ticket changing restrictions like changing a purely eastern hemisphere ticket to whatever and getting the system to allow usage of this fare that has been filed errounesly.

Still, for €400 (+positioning) it might be worth a shot.

TL;DR To get in on the original deal, in theory you can book any itinerary and change the rest of the flights after you've flown the first leg.

christravelblog Dec 10, 2016 11:54 am


Originally Posted by CosmicGirl (Post 27592518)
Why did I not think of this :D

+1 :D:D:D:D:D

Pete7505 Dec 10, 2016 11:54 am

If this deal is still open, does anybody have a good suggestion on a flight going through Brazil? I were looking at:

FLR-LAX 6/JUL-17
LAX-GRU 10/JUL-17
THE-DUS 2/AUG-17

The thing is that i want to be in brazil at that time, and it doesn't matter to me where i stop over, and how long it takes. The route above was 700 GBP, but i was denied at booking...

any good suggestions on a Brazil route? I wanna fly into basil drouth the 6th of july, and out around 2nd of august? Had one earlier today at around 700 GBP, but i didn't get to book it...

SFO777 Dec 10, 2016 11:57 am


Originally Posted by Ned1968 (Post 27592475)
DUS-JFK-FLR for £535 still live on ebookers 14/15 April - outward on OW, return on Alitalia/AF

DUS-LAX-FLR for £672, same OW/AZ-AF combo including the award seat elusive LAX-FCO AZ 77W.

henkybaby Dec 10, 2016 11:57 am


Originally Posted by christravelblog (Post 27592554)
+1 :D:D:D:D:D

You still can. I am very close to pulling the trigger on a positioning flight DUS-JFK-FLR for £500...

The 'normal' positioning is €187... so.... it.... is.... the... logical... choice...?

vincewy Dec 10, 2016 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by tmpvt (Post 27592488)
Well DUS-JFK-FLR could be a good positioning flight for me as I come from Germany and have to get to Florence!:D:D

It works perfectly if you have a trip to Europe prior, sometimes I buy 1-way award (TK), DY premium or FI Saga Class (vayama has good 1 way fare) to EU, no way in he ll am I flying cattle class for that long besides not getting enough miles, getting to Europe and start round trip fares there.

on22cz Dec 10, 2016 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by Gnopps (Post 27592535)
In theory, it is thus possible to book any itineray, (e.g. DUS-LON-ROM-FLR) and then as soon as you have flown the first leg (DUS-LON) you go to the ticket counter and change the rest of the itinerary to something more to your liking and on dates that you like (e.g. DUS-LON-NYC-SEL-PAR-FLR). You should then only be charged the change in taxes and surcharges, which should equal what people have been paying for these crazy itineraries so far.

In practice, they will just tell you that if you want to make any change, they will recalculate the fare to the non-error fare. In no way they will let you fly via another continent. You will even be out of luck if asking for a change within Europe. So better forget about this unless you are OK with spending the money on just intra-European route. :cool:

Chokkoubin Dec 10, 2016 12:07 pm

As I need to be going to Washington DC anyway, just gone for a £672 DUS-LHR-IAD-CDG-FLR on BA and AF that'll get me to Florence just in time for my other trip to Japan New Zealand, and Australia.

This has got totally out of hand, don't even know how I feel about it anymore

HeidiInTheAlps Dec 10, 2016 12:10 pm

My outbound is a D fare, but my inbound is a Z fare, what are the restrictions, normally on a Z fare - The Z fare is LH...

nufnuf77 Dec 10, 2016 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 27592562)
You still can. I am very close to pulling the trigger on a positioning flight DUS-JFK-FLR for £500...

The 'normal' positioning is €187... so.... it.... is.... the... logical... choice...?

I booked DUS-FCO-SCL-LAX-MEX-EZE-LHR // LCY-FLR for £860. Very happy ;)

Aotearoa24 Dec 10, 2016 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by Chokkoubin (Post 27592590)

This has got totally out of hand, don't even know how I feel about it anymore

Has a "public" EF been online for such a long time ever?

I mean AZ should have noticed it like yesterday around 1 or 2p.m. UTC+1

Sebz4n Dec 10, 2016 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by Chokkoubin (Post 27592590)
This has got totally out of hand, don't even know how I feel about it anymore

When do you fly? It's exciting in the heat of the moment, but once that wears off I often re-think too, if it is actually worth the money (compared to not flying , if you actually didn't need to) and time. A 32 hour trip each way is still a long time, business or not

nufnuf77 Dec 10, 2016 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by HeidiInTheAlps (Post 27592599)
My outbound is a D fare, but my inbound is a Z fare, what are the restrictions, normally on a Z fare - The Z fare is LH...

there is no out and in bound. it's a oneway DUS-FLR, the letters do not correspond to how flexible the fare is. The fare rules are covered by fare code, DOW8C most probably in your case.

Shl Dec 10, 2016 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 27592607)
I booked DUS-FCO-SCL-LAX-MEX-EZE-LHR // LCY-FLR for £860. Very happy ;)

Do you have a link for this?

henkybaby Dec 10, 2016 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 27592607)
I booked DUS-FCO-SCL-LAX-MEX-EZE-LHR // LCY-FLR for £860. Very happy ;)

Very nice! ^

I have decided that for 2 trips I will fly out to Florence the night before and spend money on a nice hotel, some shopping and a very nice dinner instead of flying.

It is still fun making plans you know will never happen. :D

nufnuf77 Dec 10, 2016 12:20 pm


Originally Posted by Shl (Post 27592639)
Do you have a link for this?

For HNL

I closed the linked for SCL after I booked.

Shl Dec 10, 2016 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 27592644)
For HNL

I closed the linked for SCL after I booked.

Thx!!

vincewy Dec 10, 2016 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by Aotearoa24 (Post 27592614)
Has a "public" EF been online for such a long time ever?

I mean AZ should have noticed it like yesterday around 1 or 2p.m. UTC+1

How many of us here actually slept last night? I think my head is all over this in the last 24 hrs.

schnapperin Dec 10, 2016 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 27592640)
Very nice! ^

I have decided that for 2 trips I will fly out to Florence the night before and spend money on a nice hotel, some shopping and a very nice dinner instead of flying.

It is still fun making plans you know will never happen. :D

For the plans that won't happen look into flying into Bologna, nice city aswell and its just a 30 minute cheap train ride into Florence incase there are a couple of Florence trips coming up :cool:

Chokkoubin Dec 10, 2016 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by Sebz4n (Post 27592616)
When do you fly? It's exciting in the heat of the moment, but once that wears off I often re-think too, if it is actually worth the money (compared to not flying , if you actually didn't need to) and time. A 32 hour trip each way is still a long time, business or not

I know what you mean, but I need to be in DC for work so that's pretty justifiable.

The other one, well, if it sticks then I'll have paid £630 to go to two new countries on the other side of the planet for my year's big holiday.

The thing I'm really worried about is how to convince my girlfriend to come along on the ticket I *may* have excitedly booked for her already...

Forrest Bump Dec 10, 2016 12:34 pm


Originally Posted by vincewy (Post 27592653)
How many of us here actually slept last night? I think my head is all over this in the last 24 hrs.

I'm burned out.
Few hours sleep after the first one (I mean booking :D) with the head at "if sticks till tomorrow I'm gonna book some more".
So far 5 intercontinental trips next year on error fares, 3 out of this one (xxx).

Ned1968 Dec 10, 2016 12:37 pm

1 Attachment(s)
This is just asking to be tested:

Mauibaby2008 Dec 10, 2016 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by Aotearoa24 (Post 27592614)
Has a "public" EF been online for such a long time ever?

I mean AZ should have noticed it like yesterday around 1 or 2p.m. UTC+1

If you remember the United / Norway OTA error fare / scandal back in 2014 I think, there seemed to be a very clear motive for the mistake fare going on for 24 hours or so.

nufnuf77 Dec 10, 2016 12:47 pm


Originally Posted by Mauibaby2008 (Post 27592725)
If you remember the United / Norway OTA error fare / scandal back in 2014 I think, there seemed to be a very clear motive for the mistake fare going on for 24 hours or so.

I can remember the Danish DKK mistake F fares for £60 from LHR to SFO etc... but what was the reason it lasted?

Numb3rs Dec 10, 2016 12:47 pm

I need to stop... booked 5 fares so far and about to pull the trigger on the 6th... please can AZ pull it now?

newflyer530 Dec 10, 2016 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by Forrest Bump (Post 27592689)
I'm burned out.
Few hours sleep after the first one (I mean booking :D) with the head at "if sticks till tomorrow I'm gonna book some more".
So far 5 intercontinental trips next year on error fares, 3 out of this one (BKK, HKG, MIA).

same here :p:p almost feels like a hangover - head hurts from too little sleep...

headingwest Dec 10, 2016 12:49 pm

Keep going!

vincewy Dec 10, 2016 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by Numb3rs (Post 27592729)
I need to stop... booked 5 fares so far and about to pull the trigger on the 6th... please can AZ pull it now?

:D:D :p:p :D:D

If I didn't cancel all of mine I've been on the 10th now.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 8:04 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.