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Old Apr 1, 2016, 6:49 pm
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Once you fly the first segment, you MAY BE ABLE to change the flights, if you try to do so before you fly the first segment, this will reprice. Some people are not able to make any changes even after the first flight is taken without getting repriced at $2000-3000+

Please post dates traveling, itinerary, user ID, brief comments

XX-Apr-2016 -- XX-Apr-2016, TPE-KIX-LAX-SJC-LAX-KIX-TPE,
[insertusername]

(Please edit/add what you like)

17-Apr-2016 -- TPE-NRT-JFK-ORF [mster]
25-Apr-2016 -- TPE-NRT-JFK-DCA [lcpteck] - Longhaul in Premium Economy
06-May-2016 -- TPE-KIX-LAX-SJC [eunduklee]
22-MAY-2016 -- TPE-KIX-LAX-MIA-EYW-MIA-LAX-JFK-NRT-TPE [fbruno]
27-May-2016 -- TPE-NRT-LAX-SJC-LAX-KIX-TPE [yuchung5]
30-May-2016 -- TSA-HND-SFO-SLC//Jun 11 SLC-MIA-EYW//Jun 12 EYW-MIA-SLC//Jul 2 SLC-LAX-NRT//Jul 7 HND-TSA [mylifenomadic]
03-June-2016 -- TSA-HND-LAX-SJC-LAX-HND-TSA [tya] <- might cancel this one though
17-June-2016 -- TSA-HND-LAX-SJC-LAX-HND-TSA [tya]
21-June-2016 TSA-HND/NRT-DFW-PBI-DFW-NRT/HND-TSA [SGan317]
24-June-2016 -- DCA-BOS-NRT-TPE [lcpteck] - Longhaul in Premium Economy
30-June-2016 -- TPE-KIX
31-June-2016 -- NRT-JFK-MIA-ORD-FNT [bthumme]
25-Oct-2016 -- TSA-HND-SFO-JFK-CLT-PBI-CLT-SFO-HND-TSA [Pawel Siewko]
28-Oct-2016 -- TSA-HND-SFO-JFK-CLT-PBI-CLT-SFO-HND-TSA [Pawel Siewko]
22-Nov-2016 -- SAN-NRT-TPE [bthumme]
Nov-Dec-2016 -- TPE-NRT, [stopover] HND-HNL-[layover]-LAX-SJC-LAX-HNL-[stopover]-NRT-[stopover]-TPE [Matthew330ci]
31-Dec-2016 -- TPE-KIX-LAX-SJC [lcpteck]
02-Jan-2017 -- SJC-LAX-KIX-TPE [lcpteck]
27-Jan-2017 -- TPE-KIX-[stopover]-LAX-SJC [banffflyr]
27-Jan-2017 -- TPE-KIX-LAX-SJC [lcpteck]
30-Jan-2017 -- SJC-LAX-KIX-TPE [lcpteck]


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Fare rules (From post #185, thanks WorldTraveller13 !)
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Routing Search:
Departing TPE on 01/04/16 for SJC
Fare basis code Y1ED5B
Flying JL
Routing via Pacific
Routing code 01
Rule Category Rule Text
RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
JB JL PUBLISHED FARES FROM TW TO US.
APPLICATION
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
JUDGEMENT.
OTHER CONDITIONS
1.ILLNESS
A.VALIDITY - REFER TO PSC 735A FOR DETAILS.
B.CHG/REFUND - WAIVER.
2.DEATH
A.VALIDITY - REFER TO PSC 735A FOR DETAILS.
B.CHG/REFUND - REFER TO PSC 735A FOR DETAILS.
--------------------------------------------------

ELIGIBILITY NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

DAY/TIME NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

SEASONALITY NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

FLIGHT APPLICATION IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CI FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL
ANY NU FLIGHT OPERATED BY NU
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY WS FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS
ANY B6 FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6
ANY JL FLIGHT.

ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
WAITLIST - PERMITTED.
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MINIMUM STAY NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

MAXIMUM STAY TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
MIDNIGHT 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

STOPOVERS UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
UNIT.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CHD/INF DIS WILL APPLY

TRANSFERS 6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 3 IN EACH
DIRECTION
IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 2 IN
EACH DIRECTION
IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.

COMBINATIONS END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. SIDE TRIPS
PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
CIRCLE TRIPS.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE -
MOST RESTRICTIVE RULES APPLY EXEPT FOR TRANSFERS A
ND STOPOVER
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PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER JL/AA
IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

BLACKOUT DATES NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

SURCHARGES SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE
FROM/TO/VIA HONG KONG SAR CHINA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A.A SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE OF HKD 45 WILL BE
COLLECTED FROM EACH PASSENGER OF ANY AGE GROUP
DURING TICKET ISSUANCE WORLDWIDE FOR EACH
DEPARTURE OUT OF HONG KONG.
B.THE AMOUNT TO BE CHARGED WILL BE INCOPORATED IN
THE FARE CALCULATION AS IN -Q- SURCHARGE BY
CONVERTING HKD 45 INTO NUCUSING THE APPLICABLE
IATA RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
C.THE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE WILL APPLY TO
PASSENGERS DEPARTING HONG KONG INCLUDING THROUGH
PASSENGERS WITH STOPVER/S/ IN HONG KONG
D.THE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO
PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITTING HONG KONG.
E.THE APPLICABLE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE IS
SUBJECT TO REFUND WHEN HONG KONG IS NO LONGER A
DEPARTING AND/OR STOPOVER POINT AS A RESULT OF
CANCELLATION/REROUTING OF A TICKET.

ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 14DEC15.

SALES RESTRICTIONS FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 14DEC15.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

PENALTIES CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CHANGES -
A.REROUTING PERMITTED.
B.FFPU UPGRADE PERMITTED.
-------------------------------------------------

HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
STOPOVERS.
NOTE -
NO HIP/CTM CHECK APPLY.MILEAGE CHECK WILL
APPLY.

TICKET ENDORSEMENTS TICKET ENDORSEMENT NOT REQUIRED.

CHILDREN DISCOUNTS CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
UNACCOMPANIED INFANT NOT APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------

TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

AGENT DISCOUNTS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
FARE BY RULE NOT APPLICABLE.
GROUPS NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
TOURS NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
DEPOSITS NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
VOLUNTARY CHANGES NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND.
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
NEGOTIATED FARES NOT APPLICABLE.
NOT APPLICABLE
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE.

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Old Mar 31, 2016, 11:33 pm
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here!...pending already for 3 hours... bad feelings
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Old Mar 31, 2016, 11:36 pm
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Originally Posted by yuchung5
AA.com
tpe-nrt-lax-sjc and back.
Only lax-sjc on AA matel. The rest are in JL matel.
5/27~5/31

Now. Question. How can I know the JL PNR number without calling AA?
I want to change my seat.
So... the party is over.
Is there a way that I can know the record locator for JL portion without calling AA?
Also, anyone has successfully changed the ticket since it is Y fare?
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Old Mar 31, 2016, 11:54 pm
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Serious props to those who planned in stopovers / open-jaws in Japan!

Anyone flying KIX-LAX or NRT-BOS should brace themselves for serious pain though. The older Y config on 787s that haven't been retro-fitted yet is pretty brutal
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 12:50 am
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My friend called AA to get his JL PNR w/o a problem. I myself booked on JL but also called AA to get their PNR, also having no problem.

was able to choose MCE seat thanks to its being Y class, so I guess at least on AA system it is recognized as a full price Y? Would love to see how JL treat my tickets (eg. if changes are permitted) in the coming few days.
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by beyounged
finally us TPE getting some attention.
I got a TPE-KIX-LAX-EUG and then before I implemented the new discovery of all the amazing tricky ingenious routings, the party was over... sigh.
I got mine on 001 stock too on AA.com
base on previous posts, does that mean when this kind of situation come again we should not hold it?
the change can be made any time to any segment right? I kinda wanted to push it to another day when I am actually in TPE....
saw the blog "teaser" post before they posted earlier today, and saw sooo many people complaining under that post after they realized it is from Asia lol
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 12:56 am
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For anyone interested the updated JL 787s / 777-300ers are just about the best economy seats being offered at the moment. Would've waited for a potentially upgradeable deal on AA metal otherwise.

For comparison against AA metal I'd rank them:

JL Y 787 (sky wider ii) > JL Y 777-300er (sky wider) >
AA MCE 777-300er > AA MCE 787 >
JL Y 787 (original) / AA Y 787 / AA Y 777-300er (all effectively tied for last)

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/servi...skywider2.html

Anyone know whether Y booking / OW status will allow easy access (paid or otherwise) to JL's premium economy seats?
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 1:30 am
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Newbie luckily caught my first error fare. Think I've made one mistake and one confusion. I am ticketed (TPE-SFO) but i booked through one of the OTAs and forgot to plug in AAdvantage number. 1) can I still get AA mileage if I call JL and ask them to add my AAdvantage#? And 2) I'm reading these are changeable fares - which I've never dealt with. Given OTA booking can JL make changes if I call them? Sorry for basic questions...just hopinh i didnt mess it up in the frantic excitement. THANK You.
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 2:22 am
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Originally Posted by apgrizzwald
Newbie luckily caught my first error fare. Think I've made one mistake and one confusion. I am ticketed (TPE-SFO) but i booked through one of the OTAs and forgot to plug in AAdvantage number. 1) can I still get AA mileage if I call JL and ask them to add my AAdvantage#? And 2) I'm reading these are changeable fares - which I've never dealt with. Given OTA booking can JL make changes if I call them? Sorry for basic questions...just hopinh i didnt mess it up in the frantic excitement. THANK You.
1) Yes. You could even have them add it while you're checking in or at the airport.
2) I believe so but I'll let someone else confirm
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 2:39 am
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The OTAs (Expedia and Mytrip) provided the PNRs for the JL flight so I was able to select seats on JL website. Not sure how I'm gonna do so for AA flights though. Should I contact the OTAs and request for the AA PNR?
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 3:33 am
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confirmed via expedia, bit no eticket yet.
aa.com does say it is ticketed....
will see how it plays out as i have never spent a week in hawaii...
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 3:49 am
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Originally Posted by apgrizzwald
Newbie luckily caught my first error fare. Think I've made one mistake and one confusion. I am ticketed (TPE-SFO) but i booked through one of the OTAs and forgot to plug in AAdvantage number. 1) can I still get AA mileage if I call JL and ask them to add my AAdvantage#? And 2) I'm reading these are changeable fares - which I've never dealt with. Given OTA booking can JL make changes if I call them? Sorry for basic questions...just hopinh i didnt mess it up in the frantic excitement. THANK You.
Dang I couldn't find SFO
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 3:55 am
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Whoa thats a very good deal for us in asia.. Too bad party is over
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 4:40 am
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wonder how to change routing after frst segment is flown?
what is the full fare rule again?

my outbound is tpe nrt dfw with nrt dfw with aa metal and jl code. the layover is 1 hours. not sure if i can push the nrt dfw to JL so that I can apply JL mileage upgrade.... or change it to NRT HNL DFW that i apply mileage upgrade on NRT HNL and then try for upgrade on AA as exec plat.
(i am JL sapphire and AA emerald.)
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by pbd456
confirmed via expedia, bit no eticket yet.
aa.com does say it is ticketed....
will see how it plays out as i have never spent a week in hawaii...
Ticketed last night at 11:00pm but no eticket in my email as of 6:00am ... Weird

The three other flights I booked were ticketed and I received eticket within the hour... Slightly worried
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Old Apr 1, 2016, 5:18 am
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Is anyone able to find the fare rules for the record?
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