J fare significantly cheaper out of Canada than US for numerous int'l destinations
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Cancel before departure Cancellation before flight departure is permitted at a fee of 500 CAD
Cancel after departure Cancellation after flight departure is not permitted
Change before departure Change before flight departure is permitted at a fee of 450 CAD
Change after departure Change after flight departure is permitted at a fee of 450 CAD.
Minimum stay The minimum stay requirement is 3 day(s) or your stay must include a Sunday.
Maximum stay A maximum stay of 12 month(s) applies
Stopover Stopover is permitted at no cost.
No-show No-show is not permitted.
Cancel after departure Cancellation after flight departure is not permitted
Change before departure Change before flight departure is permitted at a fee of 450 CAD
Change after departure Change after flight departure is permitted at a fee of 450 CAD.
Minimum stay The minimum stay requirement is 3 day(s) or your stay must include a Sunday.
Maximum stay A maximum stay of 12 month(s) applies
Stopover Stopover is permitted at no cost.
No-show No-show is not permitted.
#80
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 254
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN AMS/PAR.
http://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-rules:research=YYZCPT-CPTYYZ;solution=0Dh7lC13Xfe3PKM1VaSgznE/BFGclLw5abOOkTSHA9ug91005;fare-key=0/0^^
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN AMS/PAR.
http://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view-rules:research=YYZCPT-CPTYYZ;solution=0Dh7lC13Xfe3PKM1VaSgznE/BFGclLw5abOOkTSHA9ug91005;fare-key=0/0^^
#82
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always one each way @ alliance hub. *A is very generous and you can do all sorts of funny things with this fare unfortunately no longer end-en-end w/ transborder fares ... they caught onto that one.
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#85
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Location: Toronto YYZ UA-1K 1MM,QFgold
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even less than the $4k quoted.
Toronto (YYZ) to Sydney (SYD) — Wed, May 4
[Long layover] [Overnight flight]
Toronto (YYZ) to Shanghai (PVG) — Wed, May 4
China Eastern 208
Dep: 3:25 pm
Arr: 7:10 pm
15h 45m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
Layover in PVG
Thu, May 5
4h 45m
Shanghai (PVG) to Sydney (SYD) — Thu, May 5
China Eastern 735
Dep: 11:55 pm
Arr: 1:35 pm
11h 40m
Airbus A330
Business (I)
[Lunch]
Fri, May 6
Sydney (SYD) to Toronto (YYZ) — Sat, May 14
[Long layover] [Overnight flight]
Sydney (SYD) to Shanghai (PVG) — Sat, May 14
China Eastern 562
Dep: 11:00 am
Arr: 7:20 pm
10h 20m
Airbus A330
Business (I)
[Lunch]
Layover in PVG
16h 50m
Shanghai (PVG) to Toronto (YYZ) — Sun, May 15
China Eastern 207
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 1:25 pm
13h 15m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
[Lunch]
Mileage
23,948 total miles
CO2 Emissions
6,383 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Toronto Lester B Pearson (YYZ)
Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Shanghai Pudong International (PVG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
$3,593.00
Total cost for 1 passenger
$3,593.00
Toronto (YYZ) to Sydney (SYD) — Wed, May 4
[Long layover] [Overnight flight]
Toronto (YYZ) to Shanghai (PVG) — Wed, May 4
China Eastern 208
Dep: 3:25 pm
Arr: 7:10 pm
15h 45m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
Layover in PVG
Thu, May 5
4h 45m
Shanghai (PVG) to Sydney (SYD) — Thu, May 5
China Eastern 735
Dep: 11:55 pm
Arr: 1:35 pm
11h 40m
Airbus A330
Business (I)
[Lunch]
Fri, May 6
Sydney (SYD) to Toronto (YYZ) — Sat, May 14
[Long layover] [Overnight flight]
Sydney (SYD) to Shanghai (PVG) — Sat, May 14
China Eastern 562
Dep: 11:00 am
Arr: 7:20 pm
10h 20m
Airbus A330
Business (I)
[Lunch]
Layover in PVG
16h 50m
Shanghai (PVG) to Toronto (YYZ) — Sun, May 15
China Eastern 207
Dep: 12:10 pm
Arr: 1:25 pm
13h 15m
Boeing 777
Business (I)
[Lunch]
Mileage
23,948 total miles
CO2 Emissions
6,383 kg (estimated by ITA).
Airport Information
Toronto Lester B Pearson (YYZ)
Sydney Kingsford Smith (SYD)
Shanghai Pudong International (PVG)
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)
$3,593.00
Total cost for 1 passenger
$3,593.00
#87
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I fly out of ORD, but recently found that YYZ (and other Canadian airports) are much cheaper for premium fares. See below for a table I started compiling.
All fares are cheapest all-in business class round trip fare found on google flights over the next 6 months, so specific dates could be higher.
For me, ORD-YYZ is $600 RT in business class and just a 1.5 hour direct flight. It seems like it's therefore a no brainer for some of the larger price discrepancies, such as the $3k savings for Johannesburg or $2.5k savings for Melbourne. Similar savings can be achieved out of YVR/YUL if you live on the east/west coast.
All fares are cheapest all-in business class round trip fare found on google flights over the next 6 months, so specific dates could be higher.
For me, ORD-YYZ is $600 RT in business class and just a 1.5 hour direct flight. It seems like it's therefore a no brainer for some of the larger price discrepancies, such as the $3k savings for Johannesburg or $2.5k savings for Melbourne. Similar savings can be achieved out of YVR/YUL if you live on the east/west coast.
I have found that just breaking the ticket in Canada drops prices a lot
e.g
WAS-LAX-SYD-LAX-WAS is 10k in bz
WAS-LAX-SYD-YVR is 6k
YVR-WAS F is 500$ at most usually oneway on a separate ticket.
One can save a whole bunch stopping in Canada
I have found that starting in Canada does the same thing
so if you have enough Avios (or a BA acct and either Amex or Chase), you can Fly ORD-YYZ in economy for 4500 Avios (20$ real cost)
Then start and end in Canada and return to ORD
(or just skip the last segment of the flight if you book back to YYZ)
It works great if you have a overnight on way back or if you can get a ticket with a free change of dates