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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 1:17 am
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Using AMEX points for MRs

Looking to book my 1st long distance MR and would like to use AMEX points. I notice though that many of the flight combinations that look promising that I find on Google flights or AA's website do not show up on the AMEX site. What shows up on the AMEX site is very limited and not the codeshares that I need.

Anyone have experience with finding the MRs you want on the AMEX site? If you call can they create the bookings you want? Or are you stuck with what you see on their site?
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 8:59 am
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You want to use Amex points to pay your amex bill? Or you want to transfer points to a FFP?

Amex's site is really clunky, you'd need to use Multi-city search, and even then the stuff you are finding on GF may not come up.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 9:37 am
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Ok, thanks. And no, I just want to use Amex points to book travel on the Amex website as I have tons of points and they are the equivalent of dollars when booking travel.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by Youngtraveldude
Ok, thanks. And no, I just want to use Amex points to book travel on the Amex website as I have tons of points and they are the equivalent of dollars when booking travel.
OK, the AMEX site is awful for complex bookings. Why not book w/ a ticketing carrier or third party and just pay the bill with points? Is the conversion points> $$ different between paying the bill, or booking travel? I don't know....I'm still hoarding my points
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 9:47 am
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Why would you use AMEX points for measly 1cpm redemptions when transferring them makes them easily worth twice that much?
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 5:47 pm
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Smiley90, not sure what you mean by the 'measly 1cpm redemptions.' I want do a long distance MR to help get me to exec. platinum for the year so transferring Amex points to an airline for points does me no good.
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Why would you use AMEX points for measly 1cpm redemptions when transferring them makes them easily worth twice that much?
i believe that if you use MR points to purchase tickets at the AMEX MR OTA (admittedly at a measly .01/mile) that the purchase registers as a revenue ticket, and thus qualifies for EQM credit - if that's your goal, that's good.

An awards ticket purchased with transfer points from MR would earn no EQM.
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by Youngtraveldude
Smiley90, not sure what you mean by the 'measly 1cpm redemptions.' I want do a long distance MR to help get me to exec. platinum for the year so transferring Amex points to an airline for points does me no good.
He means you can get way more value per point if you transfer amex to a mileage program and use them for awards.
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 10:37 am
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I'd buy a ticket for your MR, and pay the bill with points instead of using AMEX travel.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Youngtraveldude
Smiley90, not sure what you mean by the 'measly 1cpm redemptions.' I want do a long distance MR to help get me to exec. platinum for the year so transferring Amex points to an airline for points does me no good.
What he means by this is that 50,000 MR points can either get you the equivalent of $500 in cash, or it can get you a round-trip, coast-to-coast trip in business class if you transfer it to points.

If you simply don't have the cash on hand, and the Amex points are your only means of funding the MR, fine, but by all other metrics you're basically lighting a wad of cash on fire.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by yvrgary
What he means by this is that 50,000 MR points can either get you the equivalent of $500 in cash, or it can get you a round-trip, coast-to-coast trip in business class if you transfer it to points.

If you simply don't have the cash on hand, and the Amex points are your only means of funding the MR, fine, but by all other metrics you're basically lighting a wad of cash on fire.
basically this, yes. :P

I mean, using it for MQD is one thing... but I'd still MUCH rather use actual cash for it. And if I didn't have the cash for it available at all, only MR, i'd just rather not travel at all instead of wasting my MR points.
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
basically this, yes. :P

I mean, using it for MQD is one thing... but I'd still MUCH rather use actual cash for it. And if I didn't have the cash for it available at all, only MR, i'd just rather not travel at all instead of wasting my MR points.
I think you'll find most people would gladly buy your ticket for if you would transfer the equivalent AX MR at $0.01 to their FF account. Sadly Amex no longer allows it.

I know I'd buy you a $1000 ticket for 100,000 Amex points any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

This is why you're seeing these reactions in this thread. To most of us, using AX MR to purchase travel is, in fact, "wasting MR points"
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by w0r1dtrave1er
I think you'll find most people would gladly buy your ticket for if you would transfer the equivalent AX MR at $0.01 to their FF account. Sadly Amex no longer allows it.

I know I'd buy you a $1000 ticket for 100,000 Amex points any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

This is why you're seeing these reactions in this thread. To most of us, using AX MR to purchase travel is, in fact, "wasting MR points"
It's been awhile since I used an AmEx card and had any MR, but I'm curious about this. What do people think is the highest and best use of MR - converting to airline miles; and then what value do they assign MR if monetized? How about SPG with the SPG AmEx card?
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by itsme
It's been awhile since I used an AmEx card and had any MR, but I'm curious about this. What do people think is the highest and best use of MR - converting to airline miles; and then what value do they assign MR if monetized? How about SPG with the SPG AmEx card?
I think generally MR are valued so high (like 2.5cents personally) because they're so flexible - have a stay or flight coming up where a specific hotel chain or airline has the best redemption value? Transfer it from MR. If MR to SPG was a 1:1 transfer that would be the obvious solution... But it's not. So their value really depends on a particular redemption. The fact that it can be so many things make them so valuable.

Think of it like an FFP with the redemption opportunities of all their transfer partners combined.


Edit: i think SPG points are generally also considered around 2.2-2.5 cents each
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I think generally MR are valued so high (like 2.5cents personally) because they're so flexible - have a stay or flight coming up where a specific hotel chain or airline has the best redemption value? Transfer it from MR. If MR to SPG was a 1:1 transfer that would be the obvious solution... But it's not. So their value really depends on a particular redemption. The fact that it can be so many things make them so valuable.

Think of it like an FFP with the redemption opportunities of all their transfer partners combined.


Edit: i think SPG points are generally also considered around 2.2-2.5 cents each
MR and UR aren't worth 2.5 cents, IMHO. 1.7-2 would be a better value. It's especially true now that we don't see too many MR transfer bonuses.

SPG points are a more valuable given a constant 25% bonus.
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