May 22, 2014, 12:41 pm
Last edit by: dhammer53
DO NOT CALL THE AIRLINES UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WHILE A DEAL IS STILL ACTIVE.
Fare is gone: You can safely add your frequent flyer number, get seat assignments and poke about in your itinerary.
Checking Your Tickets
Check Alitalia status: https://mm.alitalia.com/us_en/BOOKING/Apvsearch.aspx
(middle names should be included with the first name without a space IN CAPITAL LETTERS. For example, First Middle O'Last becomes "FIRST MIDDLE" "O LAST"):
Check KLM/AF status: http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...rRbkAction.do?
(may also work to change/select seats. A name like O'Last becomes "Olast")
Check Ticket Details: http://www.saudiairlines.com/portal/...rlines/Welcome
Double Check: http://www.checkmytrip.com
Will this ticket be honored?
Based on the history of these deals and the US Department of Transportation rules you should be fine if you have a ticket number.
If your JFK-MXP flight shows as cancelled on the KLM website and the Alitalia website gives an error, don't worry about it. That having been said, there are several people about to do this, and if you're one of them please share you experience on this leg (if you cannot edit the wiki, PM WhIteSidE).
Wanna know your booking class?
Go to Delta.com:
Home > My Delta > My Trips > Trip Details > VIEW RECEIPT
Will I earn miles?
If you are in this for miles be aware that you may not earn miles.
More generally, these very cheap fares will typically not earn full miles. In some ways, AZ may be a good program to earn to as it appears many of the AF and KL flights that would earn 25% into their programs will earn 50% into AZ. It seems that most people departing from JFK are booked in O class which may not have much earning. Some people departing from LAX have V or other classes which do have earning benefits. The most earning will probably occur on an 057 (AF) or 074 (KL) ticketed and operated flight, credited to AS, if and only if the fare class is one of those listed as eligible on the Alaska earning website.
Want to Meet Up?
Great. Under a city where you are going to be, put dates in order.
JFK
10/29:5.41 Alpenrock + 1
11/17: et_phonehome
11/21: jrweaver912, topcat_dcx
11/22: boboqui
12/27: topcat_dcx
LAX
09/17-09/18: Mrp Alert
AMS
09/18: WhIteSidE
10/24 - 27: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/10: ben1979 +2
11/24-11/25: et_phonehome
11/25-11/28: jrweaver912
12/15: txrandom
3/19: elabut
04/05 - 06: dantorsiello
BKK
10/31 - 11/02: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/22: veeRob
11/26-?: et_phonehome, topcat_dcx
12/2-12/5?: bigmarley4
4/14-4/21/15: heatheresq +1
BUD
10/21 - 24: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/07 - 10: ben1979 +2
11/09 - 10: TProphet
11/14-11/18: veeRob
11/11-11/17 tc fly girl
11/28-11/29: bigmarley4
01/20: Exiled in Express
01/06: sneezyalex
02/22: waqarsarwar
03/06-3/11: TheMadBrewer
03/7-3/12: miko2a
3/18-3/19 elabut
11/21-11/24: maddie5218
04/11: olgsr
04/12: ben63
4/12-4/13: heatheresq +1
CDG
10/30: Alpenrock + 1
11/23: WhIteSidE
11/21: maddie5218
11/26: AaronDavidson
FCO
09/18: Mrp Alert
11/05: riphamilton
11/06: ben1979 + 2
11/18: et_phonehome
11/26: KennyBSAT
12/02: txrandom
PRG
09/24: WhIteSidE
10/29: Alpenrock
11/06-11/11: arods3
11/08-11/11: JessicaTam
11/18-11/21: veeRob
11/22 (but plan to split time with Krakow): travelisfree
11/22 - 11/25: topcat_dcx (split with MXP)
11/13-11/24: et_phonehome
11/25-27: maddie5218
12/15 : txrandom
04/05: dantorsiello
HKG
6/2-6: AA_EXP09
10/20: WhIteSidE
11/23: WhIteSidE
HKT
10/28 - 10/30: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/12-13: riphamilton
ICN
11/14: riphamilton
KIX
11/16: arods3
03/13: miko2a
04/17: olgsr
MXP
11/21: travelisfree
11/21: jrweaver912
11/22-11/25: topcat_dcx (split with PRG)
11/25: AaronDavidson
12/28: topcat_dcx (just the 1 day)
01/03: sneezyalex
01/18: Exiled in Express
03/12: olgsr
04/02: dantorsiello
04/02: dhammer53
NRT
10/17: Bonaventure
11/10: ben1979 +2
11/18-11/25 Poptarts
12/16: txrandom
01/10: sneezyalex
01/22: Exiled in Express
02/25: waqarsarwar
03/12: TheMadBrewer
3/20-3/24 elabut
04/07: dantorsiello
11/28-11/30: maddie5218
WKJ
04/14: ben63
PEK
09/24: WhIteSidE
11/18 - 11/23: TProphet
12/30-?: topcat_dcx
OTP
09/16: WhIteSidE
10/18: WhIteSidE
11/20: WhIteSidE
TLV
09/18-27ish Mrp Alert
11/18-11/22: et_phonehome
11/26-11/29: KennyBSAT
12/02: txrandom
02/17: waqarsarwar
3/15-3/18 elabut
AUH
11/22-11/24(F1 Race): jrweaver912
DXB
11/22-11/24(F1 Race): jrweaver912
Fare is gone: You can safely add your frequent flyer number, get seat assignments and poke about in your itinerary.
Checking Your Tickets
Check Alitalia status: https://mm.alitalia.com/us_en/BOOKING/Apvsearch.aspx
(middle names should be included with the first name without a space IN CAPITAL LETTERS. For example, First Middle O'Last becomes "FIRST MIDDLE" "O LAST"):
Check KLM/AF status: http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...rRbkAction.do?
(may also work to change/select seats. A name like O'Last becomes "Olast")
Check Ticket Details: http://www.saudiairlines.com/portal/...rlines/Welcome
Double Check: http://www.checkmytrip.com
Will this ticket be honored?
Based on the history of these deals and the US Department of Transportation rules you should be fine if you have a ticket number.
If your JFK-MXP flight shows as cancelled on the KLM website and the Alitalia website gives an error, don't worry about it. That having been said, there are several people about to do this, and if you're one of them please share you experience on this leg (if you cannot edit the wiki, PM WhIteSidE).
Wanna know your booking class?
Go to Delta.com:
Home > My Delta > My Trips > Trip Details > VIEW RECEIPT
Will I earn miles?
If you are in this for miles be aware that you may not earn miles.
- Delta: Booked on carrier websites: Yes. Despite earlier concerns, it appears that these fares will earn, miles on DL even if booked via priceline, as reported by cataclysmicvoid.
1.1. For 006 ticket with flight operated by AZ probably not. See this post. Please report back your experience. - Alaska: No on AZ segments. No on most AF/KL segments because of the fare code. No on DL segments if not booked on 006 stock. No on DL if booked into O class. Yes on DL segments if you have a 006 ticket stock.
- KLM: Yes (will be at 50% or 25% depending on the exact fare booked)
- Air France: Yes (will be at 50% or 25% depending on the exact fare booked)
- Alitalia: Yes (will be at 50% depending on the exact fare booked)
More generally, these very cheap fares will typically not earn full miles. In some ways, AZ may be a good program to earn to as it appears many of the AF and KL flights that would earn 25% into their programs will earn 50% into AZ. It seems that most people departing from JFK are booked in O class which may not have much earning. Some people departing from LAX have V or other classes which do have earning benefits. The most earning will probably occur on an 057 (AF) or 074 (KL) ticketed and operated flight, credited to AS, if and only if the fare class is one of those listed as eligible on the Alaska earning website.
Want to Meet Up?
Great. Under a city where you are going to be, put dates in order.
JFK
10/29:5.41 Alpenrock + 1
11/17: et_phonehome
11/21: jrweaver912, topcat_dcx
11/22: boboqui
12/27: topcat_dcx
LAX
09/17-09/18: Mrp Alert
AMS
09/18: WhIteSidE
10/24 - 27: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/10: ben1979 +2
11/24-11/25: et_phonehome
11/25-11/28: jrweaver912
12/15: txrandom
3/19: elabut
04/05 - 06: dantorsiello
BKK
10/31 - 11/02: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/22: veeRob
11/26-?: et_phonehome, topcat_dcx
12/2-12/5?: bigmarley4
4/14-4/21/15: heatheresq +1
BUD
10/21 - 24: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/07 - 10: ben1979 +2
11/09 - 10: TProphet
11/14-11/18: veeRob
11/11-11/17 tc fly girl
11/28-11/29: bigmarley4
01/20: Exiled in Express
01/06: sneezyalex
02/22: waqarsarwar
03/06-3/11: TheMadBrewer
03/7-3/12: miko2a
3/18-3/19 elabut
11/21-11/24: maddie5218
04/11: olgsr
04/12: ben63
4/12-4/13: heatheresq +1
CDG
10/30: Alpenrock + 1
11/23: WhIteSidE
11/21: maddie5218
11/26: AaronDavidson
FCO
09/18: Mrp Alert
11/05: riphamilton
11/06: ben1979 + 2
11/18: et_phonehome
11/26: KennyBSAT
12/02: txrandom
PRG
09/24: WhIteSidE
10/29: Alpenrock
11/06-11/11: arods3
11/08-11/11: JessicaTam
11/18-11/21: veeRob
11/22 (but plan to split time with Krakow): travelisfree
11/22 - 11/25: topcat_dcx (split with MXP)
11/13-11/24: et_phonehome
11/25-27: maddie5218
12/15 : txrandom
04/05: dantorsiello
HKG
6/2-6: AA_EXP09
10/20: WhIteSidE
11/23: WhIteSidE
HKT
10/28 - 10/30: KissFlyGoodbye + 1
11/12-13: riphamilton
ICN
11/14: riphamilton
KIX
11/16: arods3
03/13: miko2a
04/17: olgsr
MXP
11/21: travelisfree
11/21: jrweaver912
11/22-11/25: topcat_dcx (split with PRG)
11/25: AaronDavidson
12/28: topcat_dcx (just the 1 day)
01/03: sneezyalex
01/18: Exiled in Express
03/12: olgsr
04/02: dantorsiello
04/02: dhammer53
NRT
10/17: Bonaventure
11/10: ben1979 +2
11/18-11/25 Poptarts
12/16: txrandom
01/10: sneezyalex
01/22: Exiled in Express
02/25: waqarsarwar
03/12: TheMadBrewer
3/20-3/24 elabut
04/07: dantorsiello
11/28-11/30: maddie5218
WKJ
04/14: ben63
PEK
09/24: WhIteSidE
11/18 - 11/23: TProphet
12/30-?: topcat_dcx
OTP
09/16: WhIteSidE
10/18: WhIteSidE
11/20: WhIteSidE
TLV
09/18-27ish Mrp Alert
11/18-11/22: et_phonehome
11/26-11/29: KennyBSAT
12/02: txrandom
02/17: waqarsarwar
3/15-3/18 elabut
AUH
11/22-11/24(F1 Race): jrweaver912
DXB
11/22-11/24(F1 Race): jrweaver912
[FARE GONE] RTW for about $950; Alitalia Europe/asia combo deal
Nov 18, 2014, 6:14 pm
#1591
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: CVG
Programs: DL Diamond, UA Platinum
Posts: 361
AZ flights are fully available to credit to DL. O class is listed as Econ and 100% credit.
Nov 18, 2014, 6:20 pm
#1592
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 24
Nov 18, 2014, 8:03 pm
#1593
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 17
Has anyone run into VISA issues with JFK - MXP / PRG - PVG at JFK? We have no plans on taking the second leg of our trip to PVG and as a result did not get a VISA. We are staying in Italy and have a flight out the following week from Rome. Technically my stopover in Italy is 6 days if we were to continue onto PRG - PVG on this booking. As I mentioned we have a different booking out of Rome on miles with UA.
Our flight is in a couple days. Just want to see if anyone has run into issues at JFK with similar plans for Europe travels. Thank you!
Nov 18, 2014, 9:42 pm
#1594
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: EWR-SEA-IAD
Programs: UA 1P MM, AS MVP G*, SPG Gold, Hyatt Plat, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 977
Or just get a china visa. Now is the time anyways with the new 10 year. lol. The new 10 year might have a limited period where they are handed out.
Nov 18, 2014, 9:53 pm
#1595
Join Date: Aug 2012
Programs: UA
Posts: 60
Why wouldn't AZ flights operated by AZ on 006 stock credit to DL?
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../alitalia.html
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_.../alitalia.html
Nov 19, 2014, 6:55 am
#1596
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 17
From experience, if the agent sees any China dest in the Comp they want to see a visa. Period. So I would check in online and try to avoid human interaction.
Or just get a china visa. Now is the time anyways with the new 10 year. lol. The new 10 year might have a limited period where they are handed out.
Or just get a china visa. Now is the time anyways with the new 10 year. lol. The new 10 year might have a limited period where they are handed out.
Has anyone else run into this issue where they have flown with this deal and decided not to continue on and stay in Europe?
Nov 19, 2014, 7:00 am
#1597
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: EWR-SEA-IAD
Programs: UA 1P MM, AS MVP G*, SPG Gold, Hyatt Plat, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 977
That is probably not going to happen by the end of the week. Is it worth seeing if we can cancel the second leg of the trip that we will not be taking? Would that not cancel the first leg out of JFK?
Has anyone else run into this issue where they have flown with this deal and decided not to continue on and stay in Europe?
Has anyone else run into this issue where they have flown with this deal and decided not to continue on and stay in Europe?
Then cancel once you arrive in europe.
Nov 19, 2014, 7:51 am
#1599
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 17
HGHUA and danielm:
Thank you for your feedback. We have enough time at the airport that if we run into issues we can book a refundable one way out of PVG. Otherwise I will explain our situation and tell them we are planning on getting a visa at the Chinese embassy in Italy.
Thank you for your feedback. We have enough time at the airport that if we run into issues we can book a refundable one way out of PVG. Otherwise I will explain our situation and tell them we are planning on getting a visa at the Chinese embassy in Italy.
Nov 19, 2014, 9:18 am
#1600
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 59
I have a similar question as Sakino, but instead of dropping from PRG to PVG it's PRG to BKK. The Department of State website says Americans don't need a visa if carrying an onward ticket from Thailand.
Since I'll be going back home from MXP, I wouldn't have that onward ticket from BKK. Would anyone at JFK give me trouble?
Since I'll be going back home from MXP, I wouldn't have that onward ticket from BKK. Would anyone at JFK give me trouble?
Last edited by westmassexpat; Nov 19, 2014 at 9:24 am
Nov 19, 2014, 4:02 pm
#1601
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 109
HGHUA and danielm:
Thank you for your feedback. We have enough time at the airport that if we run into issues we can book a refundable one way out of PVG. Otherwise I will explain our situation and tell them we are planning on getting a visa at the Chinese embassy in Italy.
Thank you for your feedback. We have enough time at the airport that if we run into issues we can book a refundable one way out of PVG. Otherwise I will explain our situation and tell them we are planning on getting a visa at the Chinese embassy in Italy.
Nov 19, 2014, 4:56 pm
#1602
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Florida
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Diamond, Club Carlson Gold, Choice Elite Platinum
Posts: 433
We just got back from our trip. Our original itin to Europe was:
JFK>VCE>FCO>MXP
As you can see that's a big hot mess. So, when there was a time schedule change in early August, I quickly called Delta and received JFK>MXP direct flight.
In November, when I went to check in for my flight at the airport, they said they only saw half my ticket JFK>MXP. The Delta check-in agent called someone on the phone at Delta and after 20 minutes they had a single Delta ticket JFK>MXP, PRG>NRT. Before, I would have to log into Air France and put my electronic ticket number in to view my ticket for PRG>NRT.
I credited my miles to Air France and I received:
JFK>MXP 1,003 miles
PRG>AMS 375 miles
AMS>NRT 1,502 miles
JFK>VCE>FCO>MXP
As you can see that's a big hot mess. So, when there was a time schedule change in early August, I quickly called Delta and received JFK>MXP direct flight.
In November, when I went to check in for my flight at the airport, they said they only saw half my ticket JFK>MXP. The Delta check-in agent called someone on the phone at Delta and after 20 minutes they had a single Delta ticket JFK>MXP, PRG>NRT. Before, I would have to log into Air France and put my electronic ticket number in to view my ticket for PRG>NRT.
I credited my miles to Air France and I received:
JFK>MXP 1,003 miles
PRG>AMS 375 miles
AMS>NRT 1,502 miles
Nov 20, 2014, 2:44 am
#1603
Join Date: Jul 2012
Programs: Delta Gold, Alaska Gold 75K, LATAM Black
Posts: 3,393
[FARE GONE] RTW for about $950; Alitalia Europe/asia combo deal
Trying to finish off this trip. Stranded in Chicago. Picked the only day of the year where my city received 5-7 FEET of snow. Great.
fwiw, my PRG AMS flight credited to AS just fine. The others didn't like I expected. I will contact AS and see what they can do if anything since my AMS-NRT leg was M class on KLM.. Or so said my boarding pass.
fwiw, my PRG AMS flight credited to AS just fine. The others didn't like I expected. I will contact AS and see what they can do if anything since my AMS-NRT leg was M class on KLM.. Or so said my boarding pass.
Nov 20, 2014, 11:02 am
#1604
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 93
I have a similar question as Sakino, but instead of dropping from PRG to PVG it's PRG to BKK. The Department of State website says Americans don't need a visa if carrying an onward ticket from Thailand.
Since I'll be going back home from MXP, I wouldn't have that onward ticket from BKK. Would anyone at JFK give me trouble?
Since I'll be going back home from MXP, I wouldn't have that onward ticket from BKK. Would anyone at JFK give me trouble?
Nov 20, 2014, 11:06 am
#1605
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 93
I agree. Get them while you can. There used to be 5 year and 2 year visas and both became very hard to get as time went on. Does anyone know if it's a true 10 years or only until your passport expires. So if you passport expires in 5 years then it's only 5 years. Some countries will allow you to use a visa in your old passport with your new passport if the visa is still valid.