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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July

August
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)

December
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February

March
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH


October
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD
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Old Jul 14, 17, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by Quinlanty View Post
Anyone know how far the Cathay Dragon gates are from the CX lounges, especially interested in the amazing Pier or Wing lounges? TIA

Also, I posted my dates a few posts above. I can guest 1 person into the Pier/Wing lounge for the Cathay Dragon flight if anyone is interested.
far away in satellite building which require bus transfer....
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Old Jul 14, 17, 11:10 am
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far away in satellite building which require bus transfer....
Thanks for the quick reply. Guess there goes my lounge plan. Any lounge in the satellite building?
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Old Jul 14, 17, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul View Post
The TransPacifics to Hong Kong with immediate connections of this deal are too exhausting for me.

I’ve tried many combinations on Matrix but it seems that Hong Kong is the only way “in” where stopovers are not permitted and connections are too short.

I'm looking for a “leg” from the US West Coast to Asia where I could stop (> 12h.) and sleep before going on.

Is there ANY another way “in” than Hong Kong?

My dates/routing are flexible. I'm near YUL, planning to start at BTV.

Any idea, anyone? Thanks in advance.
I ticketed something similar to this but you could play with it to suit: https://goo.gl/c82U2L
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Old Jul 14, 17, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul View Post
The TransPacifics to Hong Kong with immediate connections of this deal are too exhausting for me.

I’ve tried many combinations on Matrix but it seems that Hong Kong is the only way “in” where stopovers are not permitted and connections are too short.

I'm looking for a “leg” from the US West Coast to Asia where I could stop (> 12h.) and sleep before going on.

Is there ANY another way “in” than Hong Kong?

My dates/routing are flexible. I'm near YUL, planning to start at BTV.

Any idea, anyone? Thanks in advance.

Playing around with this a little more with 2018 dates I found than CAN is available as a destination with either a one hour or overnight connection in HKG. It is 85 miles and blocked as a one hour flight.
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Old Jul 14, 17, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by FamTaYul View Post
The TransPacifics to Hong Kong with immediate connections of this deal are too exhausting for me.

I’ve tried many combinations on Matrix but it seems that Hong Kong is the only way “in” where stopovers are not permitted and connections are too short.

I'm looking for a “leg” from the US West Coast to Asia where I could stop (> 12h.) and sleep before going on.

Is there ANY another way “in” than Hong Kong?

My dates/routing are flexible. I'm near YUL, planning to start at BTV.

Any idea, anyone? Thanks in advance.
There is a DragonAir departure from HKG-HGH at 16:00 allowing for about 20 hour layover--enough time to leave hotel into City for a decent amount of time for sleep. Safe travels!
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Old Jul 15, 17, 2:16 pm
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What are the exact dates you are using for Turkey day weekend?
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Old Jul 15, 17, 2:18 pm
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Thanks to all of the FTers that shared Google Flights!

I was able to find ORD-HKG-HGH-ORD-YUL over the Thanksgiving holiday for $313. Over 17k BIS miles (1.8 cents per mile.)
What dates are you using for Turkey Day weekend?
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Old Jul 15, 17, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Exiled in Express View Post
In for a vacation, already have the unlimited admission visa. I was able to ticket a return WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR with an ORD departure for $302.
Which dates did you use may I ask?
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Old Jul 15, 17, 7:07 pm
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YYZ to HGH via HNL, GUM, and HKG for $288 US

https://www.google.com/flights/?sour...OW0UA4020;eo=e

Still available select Fridays in Sept 2017 via HNL, GUM, and HKG returning on Mondays. Can make a layover in HKG for about 23 hours, if desired. IAD to YOW via EWR.

Safe travels.
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Old Jul 16, 17, 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by sevendagrussla View Post
Which dates did you use may I ask?
APR18 ORD-HGH
APR30 WUH-YVR

WUH was available on most 2018 SAT/SUN departures I had checked.
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Old Jul 17, 17, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by Quinlanty View Post
Thanks for the quick reply. Guess there goes my lounge plan. Any lounge in the satellite building?
No.
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Old Jul 17, 17, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Exiled in Express View Post
APR18 ORD-HGH
APR30 WUH-YVR

WUH was available on most 2018 SAT/SUN departures I had checked.
So many people flying out of Wuhan! If anyone needs advice, or wants to grab a beer, let me know. That's where I live 8-10 months out of the year. Can tell you absolutely anything you want to know about the city.
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Old Jul 18, 17, 6:24 pm
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HKG Connection

If I miss the HKG-HGH flight the night coming to HKG due to late arrival of the UA TPAC flight, will UA change that leg to the next day?
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Old Jul 18, 17, 11:39 pm
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If you miss a connection and it's not your fault, on one ticket, yes they would re-accommodate you. If it's UA's fault, they are obligated to get you back on other carriers in addition to their own, and provide hotel/food/etc. If it's not their fault, they may just have you waitlisted or confirmed for the next flight.
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Old Jul 19, 17, 8:14 pm
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Does anybody have experience doing TWOV flying into HGH and out of PVG? As I read TIMATIC this should be allowed:

[KVS Tool 8.4.7/Diamond - TIMATIC: Visa/Entry Requirements]
Code:
National USA (US)               /Embarkation USA (US)
Transit China (People's Rep.) (CN)
Destination Japan (JP)          
ALSO CHECK DESTINATION INFORMATION BELOW

[Visa Information - Transit] China (People's Rep.) (CN)

[Information For Normal Passports]
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
...
Visa required, except for Nationals of USA holding confirmed
onward air, cruise or train tickets to a third country,
arriving and departing from any one of the following
locations: Hangzhou (HGH), Nanjing Lukou (NKG), Shanghai
Hongqiao (SHA) or Shanghai Pudong (PVG) for a maximum of 144
hours, starting from 00:01 on the day following the day of
entry. (SEE NOTE 75232)
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