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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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UA, USA to China OJ from $303 ai

Old Jul 7, 2017, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
Any thoughts or related experience anyone would want to share?
Call me gun shy, but I wouldn't book on the same carrier I'm throwing away subsequent legs. That's just a red flag that it's intentional.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
Question: flying back, I have a four hour layover in ORD on the way to YTZ, which is not my intended final destination. I plan to book a flight from ORD on UA to my real destination.
I realize it was a typo, but I dream that I can fly one day on UA between ORD and YTZ! (CO once announced EWR-YTZ service but it never came to fruition)
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by CJPacker
Hi, New to this. Was thinking to tale the EWR-HKG-CAN // PVG-SFO-YVR in early September - $323. Make a vacation of it with a 2+ week stay. From what i've read all major airlines have move to $ based mileage rewards. Is there still advantage as a mileage run? I've got credit card points of CITI Advantage of 61k And Chase BA card w point at 83K but i dont think they do any good for the UA flight. If i open a UA card and get the 50K point bonus, then also possibly the MQM's? But i already have 6 cards with points. lol
TKS
To get status, you need the miles and the money. You can meet the money by either charging $25,000 on the credit card or the required amount of money on flights (for silver it is $3000). With the card you can get a free checked bag and more access to flights when book with miles.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by bxg101g
To get status, you need the miles and the money. You can meet the money by either charging $25,000 on the credit card or the required amount of money on flights (for silver it is $3000). With the card you can get a free checked bag and more access to flights when book with miles.
If you have an out of the country address for your MileagePlus account, the PQDs are waived.
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Old Jul 7, 2017, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Toronto1970
I realize it was a typo, but I dream that I can fly one day on UA between ORD and YTZ! (CO once announced EWR-YTZ service but it never came to fruition)
UA is removing Dash 8 from its fleet (believe some will remain), and those are the only birds that can land and take off at Billy Bishop (OK, not only ones, but no large jets). Runway extension requests have been turned down up till now.

And new UA does not like to fly to secondary airports.

One of the reasons why Southwest is making a killing at DAL is that they leased UA's two gates (for an obscene amount of money) and are keeping planes full. Only Virgin seems to be in UA's shoes, as they have the only other (2) gates and can't seem to make it work either.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 10:33 pm
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From PHX-Shenzen/Beijing?
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 7:28 am
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I am afraid that you cannot find a good fare for this itinerary. Shenzhen is too close to HKG (a short ferry ride), which is one of the stops for this great deal. You may want to think of positioning to certain cities (a separate reservation). You may want to play with some google links on this thread, for example, post #88 (BTV, BOS and BDL, all for $282). If your goal is mileage run, the stopover cities in China do not matter. You will be better off by stopping at HGH and PVG, instead of Shenzhen and Beijing. Good luck.

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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:19 am
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Thanks to all of the FTers that shared Google Flights!

I was able to find ORD-HKG-HGH-ORD-YUL over the Thanksgiving holiday for $313. Over 17k BIS miles (1.8 cents per mile.)
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:55 am
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Originally Posted by ejmelton
Thanks to all of the FTers that shared Google Flights!

I was able to find ORD-HKG-HGH-ORD-YUL over the Thanksgiving holiday for $313. Over 17k BIS miles (1.8 cents per mile.)
This very low $/mile is also great for someone who is close to 1M or 2M.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 6:07 pm
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these (flights ex-BDL/PVD, with an EWR return) are perfect for me, except that i'd like to fly in oct/nov of this year.

i'm more than willing to do the legwork (i've already started); but i'll ask for one hint - do i have to 'click through' all of the segments on google flights to for it to calculate the lower price, or will the initial price quoted be accurate? i know sometimes there's a discrepancy. thanks!

EDIT: google flights was essentially 100% at giving an accurate initial quote. no need to click through all of the segments.

ended up routing BOS-LAX-SFO-HKG-HGH-SFO-IAD-YUL in october for $282ai (1.47cpm). unreal. thanks!

EDIT 2: if you're truly sick, you can route this via HNL and GUM for >20k PQM after 500mi minimums (20551mi @1.37cpm): https://goo.gl/flights/4HXL

maybe hope for a misconnect and some beach time?

Originally Posted by Clincher
There are a number of +- $300 fares from Northeast. I guess it depends on how far and convenient these cities are from your home. Here are some samples out of Hartford BDL, Providence PVD, Boston BOS, Burlington BTV. I understand there may be more outbound cities in Washington DC and Virginia airports.
Leaves on a Friday and return on Sunday, Monday/Tuesday. Also, with this routing there is no need to figure out how to get from Hong Kong to Hangzhou. These samples are round trip in and out of Hangzhou, near Shanghai is a great place to visit if you can swing the visa for a longer stay.

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Old Jul 10, 2017, 8:44 am
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First off. Awesome find!!

I booked ORD-HKG-HGH-YVR for 331 for MLK weekend. I'm actually taking my 13 year old daughter on her first milage run!

Does anyone know what happens if the flight goes wait listed after being booked? The HKG-HGH is operated by Dragon Air and allows me to book it but the premier desk says I've been wait listed for it.

Any tips on what I need to do?

Thanks all
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Old Jul 10, 2017, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by riphamilton

EDIT 2: if you're truly sick, you can route this via HNL and GUM for >20k PQM after 500mi minimums (20551mi @1.37cpm): https://goo.gl/flights/4HXL
Such a great find and fare. We over here in europe can only dream of something like this
Anyone got such a good fare in early september or august? May be even worth flying to the US for it.
Are these <1h connections even possible to make it?

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Old Jul 10, 2017, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by riphamilton
EDIT 2: if you're truly sick, you can route this via HNL and GUM for >20k PQM after 500mi minimums (20551mi @1.37cpm): https://goo.gl/flights/4HXL
Mileage runners are not sick, we are adventurous..
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Old Jul 11, 2017, 10:27 am
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been trying to find some dates in the first 2 weeks of october, but i must be doing something wrong since its all coming up as over 1k

Can someone give me a hand?
Looking for EWR to HKG (stop 3-4days) then routing back through EWR, which then i will skip the last leg
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Old Jul 11, 2017, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by kemichu
been trying to find some dates in the first 2 weeks of october, but i must be doing something wrong since its all coming up as over 1k

Can someone give me a hand?
Looking for EWR to HKG (stop 3-4days) then routing back through EWR, which then i will skip the last leg
I don't believe the fare rules allow for a stopover in HKG. See the rules in post 58 of this thread.
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