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Old Jul 5, 2017, 8:33 am
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Transportation options from HGH to Hangzhou city center or PVG. Please add your name and your itinerary if you are interested in meeting other fellow FTers.
1) Taxi to Hangzhou city center, about 100 RMB ($15) for the entire party, not per person, walking from international terminal to domestic terminal (i.e., right turn after you get outside of the international terminal building), you will see taxi queue.
2) Shuttle bus, 20 RMB ($3), to Wulinmen CAAC Ticket Office or East Railway Station Line (two most popular options). The waiting hall for the shuttle bus is at Gate 10 (you can purchase ticket at Gate 14, too) Arrival Hall, on the first floor of the terminal building. Further details, see https://www.travelchinaguide.com/cit...ation.htm#hang
3) Shuttle from Hangzhou city center to PVG, 110 RMB, 3.5 hours: a) Wulinmen Ticket Office Central Hangzhou to PVG: (5:30, 6:10, 7:00, 8:00, 9:00, 10:00, 11:00, 12:00, 13:00, 14:00, 15:00, 16:00, 17:00)
b) Hangzhou Dragon Sports Center to PVG, 110 RMB, (7:00, 8:30, 10:30, 12:30, 14:30, 16:00
). Further details, see https://traveladept.com/bus-pudong-hangzhou/
4) Train from Hangzhou East station to Shanghai Hongqiao; less than 100 RMB (~1 hr); then you can take Subway Line #2 to PVG, ~10 RMB and 2 hrs; or shuttle bus (Airport Line #1), about 1 hr, 30 RMB ($4.5), every 15 - 25 minutes. The Hangzhou East ticketing windows are located on 1st Floor, EAST Area of the station. Please allow 20-30 minutes for walking to 2nd floor departure, and security check. The frequency of Hangzhou-Hongqiao trains is as good as that of subways in many US cities.
5) Getting cash at HGH The international terminal at HGH (where you arrive) only has an exchange vendor with hefty fees that is open limited hours. However, the adjacent domestic terminal has a bank ATM. To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.
6 Getting TWOV without issues The advice is to print out your itinerary, hotel reservation, etc., to speed up the procedure at the entry point in China. At SFO, the check-in agents were clueless, so be prepared to get there very early and fight for your boarding passes. Please read the last few pages on this thread for first-hand experiences. Good luck. There is a thread on FT for further details. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/china...hread-231.html

ATM To get to the entrance of the domestic terminal, exit the international terminal and keep walking right, past the taxi stand. Then enter and take the escalator to the second floor. The bank ATM will be on your left, next to the escalator.

Travel information for Beijing and airport:
Beijing will have 2 hubs starting Sept 30,2019. PEK (Beijing Capital International Airport) is original main hub and will continue for Star Alliance flights and Cathay Pacific (including subsidiary Cathay Dragon Air). PKX (Beijing Daxing International Airport, will debut Sept 30, 2019)
planned for airlines of the SkyTeam alliance and One World Alliance (AA, BA, etc. except Cathay Pacific) will be relocated to the new airport. Most flyers taking advantage of this China OJ deal will continue fly through PEK. Some people who use positioning flights through Beijing using non-Star Alliance airlines need to make sure you are flying into PEK, or else need 2hr ground transportation from PKX to PEK.
PEK allows TWOV within 24hr to stay inside security zone airside. This is more convenient for immediate turn than Shanghai-PVG, which force all passengers to exit immigration and customs, then re-check in from land side, even if you have immediate turn within 24hr.

Who are going? When for outbound and inbound? Routing from major hubs:
July 2017

August 2017
Quinlanty: Aug 3, ORD-HKG-HGH; Aug 7, PVG-LAX-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ (see post #284 for a brief report on TWOV procedure at HGH).

September 2017
Kmxu: 1 Sept, IAD-HNL-GUM-, 3 Sept, GUM-PVG; 4 Sept, PVG-SFO-ORD
Quinlanty; Sep 1, IAD-HNL-GUM; Sept 3, GUM-PVG, Sep 4, PVG-SFO-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Sept 1; SFO-HNL-GUM-HKG Sept 3rd: HKG-HGH, Sept 4th: PVG-SFO
X31: 8 Sept BTV-EWR-SFO-HKG-HGH; 11 Sept PVG-NRT; 12 Sept HND-SFO-IAH-EWR; 13 Sept EWR-YUL
Kmxu + 3: 9 Sept, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH; 12 Sept, PVG-SFO-IAD
techdarko: 12 Sept, SFO-HKG; 14 Sept, HKG-HGH; 16 Sept, PVG-SFO
Quinlanty: Sep 14; SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-YVR
bencanfly: Sep 14, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 18, PVG-SFO-IAD
tde211: Sept 17, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 18 - PVG-SFO-YVR
Fishleafer: Sep 20, SFO-HKG-HGH; Sep 26, PVG-SFO-YVR
X31: 21 Sept BTV-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG; 23 Sept HKG-HGH; 25 Sept PVG-SFO-IAH-EWR; 26 Sept EWR-YUL
985X: Sept 22, LAX-SFO-HKG; Sept 23, HKG-HGH; Sept 25, PVG-LAX; Sept 26, LAX-YVR
flyingstudent: Sept 23: SFO-HGH
netoreisinger: 30 Sept, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; 4 Oct, PVG-SFO-ORD-YUL

October 2017
gba: Oct 22, SFO-HKG-HGH; Oct 29: PVG-NRT-SEA-YVR
beyounged: Oct 24, SAN-SFO-HKG, Oct 26, HKG-HGH, Nov 8, PVG-HND-YVR
as219: Oct 26, LGA-ORD-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-SFO-EWR-YUL (+1)
X31: 26 Oct BTV-ORD-HKG; 28 Oct HKG-HGH; 30 Oct PVG-SFO; 31 Oct SFO-ORD-YUL
riphamilton +1: Oct 27, BOS-EWR-HNL-GUM-HKG (+1); Oct 30: HKG-GUM-NRT; Oct 31: NRT-ORD-YUL

November 2017
Quinlanty: Nov 3, BOS-EWR-HKG-HGH; Nov 6, HGH-SFO-IAH-ORD-YYZ
pushmyredbutton: Nov 19: BDL-ORD-HKG-HGH, Nov 27 HGH HKG-SFO-(YVR)
Davistev: Nov26, LAX-NRT-PVG

December 2017
Kmxu: Dec 1, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG; Dec 3, HKG-HGH, Dec 4, PVG-SFO-IAD
X31: Dec 1, YUL-IAD-IAH; Dec 2, IAH-LAX-PVG; Dec 4, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Dec 4, HNL-EWR-BTV.

January 2018
Kewldude21: Jan 14 IAH-EWR-HKG Jan 16 HKG-HGH Jan 22 PVG-SFO-IAH
mpiotrow: Jan 21, ORD-SFO-KIX; Jan 23, KIX-HGH; Jan 24, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL-DEN-YYZ

February 2018

March 2018
Davistev: Mar03, PVG-SFO-YVR
flyer777lr: Mar 20, DEN-HNL-GUM; Mar 23, GUM-KIX (NH)-HGH; Mar 26, HGH-HKG-GUM-HNL; Mar 27, HNL-EWR-YYZ
Kewldude21: Mar 22 IAH-EWR-HKG Mar 24 HKG-HGH Mar 28 HGH-PEK-SFO-IAH
flyme2: Mar 28, BTV-ORD-HKG; Mar 29: HKG-HGH; Apr 17: HKG-EWR-YUL
JetSetDave: Mar 29, EUG-SFO-HKG-HGH; April 3, PVG-SFO-EUG
Coeur 05: March 31, bos-sfo-hkg-pvg; April 5, PVG-lax-ord-yow

April 2018
ttyl: Apr 01 BTV-IAD-EWR-HKG; Apr 02 HKG-HGH; Apr 04 PVG-SFO-IAD-LGA-YUL
Toronto1970: April 6, EWR-ORD-HKG-HGH; April 13, CTU-SFO-EWR-YYZ
Exiled in Express: April 18, ORD-HKG-HGH; April 30, WUH-NRT-SEA-YVR
X31: Apr. 28 : BTV-EWR-HKG-HGH; May 1st : PVG-KIX; May 15th : ITM-HND-YVR-YYJ

May 2018
Kewldude21: May 3 IAH-SFO-HKG May 13 PEK-SFO-IAH

October 2018
KMXU, Oct. 18, IAD-SFO-HKG-HGH, Oct. 25, PVG-SFO-IAD

November 2018
KMXU, Nov. 14, ORD-HKG-XIY, Nov. 19, PEK-ORD

September 2019
xinliz Sept 4 SFO-NRT-PVG Sept 25 PEK-EWR-YOW
Flying Machine Sept 9 LAX-SFO-HKG Sept 10 HKG-HGH Sept 16 PVG-SFO-IAD

October 2019
kmxu: Oct 26, IAH-HNL-GUM-HKG, Oct. 27, HKG-XIY, Oct 30, CTU-SFO-IAH
wolfpacktrojan: Oct. 26, EWR-SFO-PVG, Oct. 28, PVG-NRT-SFO-YVR

November 2019
kmxuand his colleague: Nov 9, IAD-PEK, Nov 12, PEK-NRT-HNL-SFO-YYZ
kmxu's colleague: Nov 13, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 16, PEK-ORD
kmxu: Nov. 20, IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 22, PEK-EWR-YYZ
kmxu: Nov. 23, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Nov. 26, PEK-ORD
aquanine Nov 28: LAX-SFO-KIX, Nov 30: KIX-PEK, Dec 2: PEK-SFO-YVR

December 2019
kmxu: Nov. 30, IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 2, PEK-ORD-YYZ
kmxu: Dec. 3, YYZ-IAD-NRT-PEK, Dec. 6, PEK-ORD
jskang Dec 5, EWR-PVG, Dec 8, PEK-NRT-IAD-YOW

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UA, USA to China OJ from $303 ai

Old Jul 3, 2017, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Clincher
This good stuff; shorter trip, lower price. If this originated in the NE I would jump on it.
If this was the good ole days when based on miles flown, I would have jumped on it in a heart beat. Now, it is a different story.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by johnnywho
Any other dates? Anything in August?
I booked around Thanksgiving for $329
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 6:27 pm
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Ended up booking one of these for November.

https://www.google.com/flights/?gl#s...YZ0UA6156;eo=e

For those looking to get over the EQM hump, with $70 positioning for me, this is costing $350 all in ($280 ticket). That's tough to beat.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 6:47 pm
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Booked my parents (who are divorced lol) with my little siblings (not my dad's kids) and me. Heading to Hangzhou and then Disney World Shanghai for a long weekend haha. Great price! Anyone have any recs on which *Alliance member to credit 50% earning miles? Anyone have family pooling? Have an upcoming TLV-ATH flight with the fam on Aegean if that helps narrow. First time on United intercon in a while or ever? Anyone else going September 14-18?
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 7:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Quinlanty
Booked my parents (who are divorced lol) with my little siblings (not my dad's kids) and me. Heading to Hangzhou and then Disney World Shanghai for a long weekend haha. Great price! Anyone have any recs on which *Alliance member to credit 50% earning miles? Anyone have family pooling? Have an upcoming TLV-ATH flight with the fam on Aegean if that helps narrow. First time on United intercon in a while or ever? Anyone else going September 14-18?
Found as low as 249 leaving SFO and coming back to YUL! Unreal! Completely unsuable for me as it would cost me twice as much just to position, but what an amazing price for those who can use it.

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Old Jul 3, 2017, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
Found as low as 229 leaving SFO and coming back to YUL! Completely unsuable for me as it would cost me twice as much to position, but what an amazing price for those who can use it.
Would you mind sharing your dates. Lowest I've found was $282. And yes! Amazing price. Even making this Delta diehard try United
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Quinlanty
Booked my parents (who are divorced lol) with my little siblings (not my dad's kids) and me. Heading to Hangzhou and then Disney World Shanghai for a long weekend haha. Great price! Anyone have any recs on which *Alliance member to credit 50% earning miles? Anyone have family pooling? Have an upcoming TLV-ATH flight with the fam on Aegean if that helps narrow. First time on United intercon in a while or ever? Anyone else going September 14-18?
singapore credit 100% UA flight
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 8:37 pm
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Originally Posted by flycal312
Ended up booking one of these for November.

https://www.google.com/flights/?gl#s...YZ0UA6156;eo=e

For those looking to get over the EQM hump, with $70 positioning for me, this is costing $350 all in ($280 ticket). That's tough to beat.
Thank you. Very helpful link. I ended up booking a week earlier to avoid an overnight stay at HKG. So, there will be two nights in Hangzhou, where hotels are much cheaper. I will leave from IAD and end at Montreal for less than $400.

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Old Jul 3, 2017, 9:26 pm
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Any luck with 2018 dates? Thanks
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 9:49 pm
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https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...,SFOYYC0UA5469

Thanks OP! needed to go to a conference in Taipei and been wanting to go to Calgary for the longest time
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 9:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Quinlanty
Would you mind sharing your dates. Lowest I've found was $282. And yes! Amazing price. Even making this Delta diehard try United
The 229 was a typo, and I edited to show 249. Didn't save anything given I had no intention of flying it, but just now I plugged a first set of dates in ITA and I got 268. Here's the link:
https://matrix.itasoftware.com/#view...=SFOHGH-PEKYUL
I am sure if you play with dates a bit, you might find even lower fares (than 249). Good luck.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 10:14 pm
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So I tried a few other origins and saw that the fares are ridiculously low not just from SFO, but some none hub cities on the east coast as well. Given that, while I wrote earlier that I had no intention of making the trip, I am now tempted.
But two problems:
1- it seems you need to have a 9-10 day stay minimum, which is not exactly a quick turnaround.
2- one ways from HGH to PEK are just under $300 at minimum.
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
2- one ways from HGH to PEK are just under $300 at minimum.
return from PVG works too. $20 by bus
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Old Jul 3, 2017, 11:12 pm
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Originally Posted by FLA77
2- one ways from HGH to PEK are just under $300 at minimum.

Use a Chinese OTA like ctrip -- can definitely get something for sub $100. And if bus isn't your thing (like khlay suggested) high speed rails to Shanghai take an hour and cost about $40.
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Old Jul 4, 2017, 1:52 am
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Has anyone seen any availability in August from west or east coast?
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